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When I look back at Of Counsel still at my old Biglaw firm, I shudder...

The idea of just having had to deal with all that shit of be...
Amber Beady-eyed Weed Whacker Karate
  03/01/17
Don't of counsels usually have some specialized knowledge or...
Sooty Vibrant Station
  03/01/17
at my old firm the models was that Partners bring in busines...
Amber Beady-eyed Weed Whacker Karate
  03/01/17
him - making $450-500k working 9-4 with ocassional nights an...
aphrodisiac mediation
  03/01/17
more like $350k for 2500 hours a year
Amber Beady-eyed Weed Whacker Karate
  03/01/17
no, of counsel work closer to 1500 than 2500 and sr assoc...
aphrodisiac mediation
  03/01/17
not at my old firm. Of Counsel weren't lockstep, so senior ...
Amber Beady-eyed Weed Whacker Karate
  03/01/17
sorry bout your tiny pink firm bro
aphrodisiac mediation
  03/01/17
It was a tip top firm. The model was actually very smart. ...
Amber Beady-eyed Weed Whacker Karate
  03/01/17
of counsel wouldnt stick around at a "tip top firm"...
aphrodisiac mediation
  03/01/17
poaster isn't flaming unless he and i work at same place. of...
charcoal university volcanic crater
  03/01/17
This is my experience as well although I think the bill clos...
Chocolate Hairless Legal Warrant
  03/01/17
so basiclaly close to what i said
aphrodisiac mediation
  03/01/17
No - there is a massive difference between 1500 and 2000 bil...
Chocolate Hairless Legal Warrant
  03/01/17
...
charcoal university volcanic crater
  03/01/17
These are people 15+ years out of lawschool with absolutely ...
Amber Beady-eyed Weed Whacker Karate
  03/01/17
Of counsels are eliterally laughed at behind their back thou...
Sooty Vibrant Station
  03/01/17
they have the joy of scholarship, wat more do you need
aphrodisiac mediation
  03/01/17
Being an of counsel is the quintessential example of a bitch...
Sooty Vibrant Station
  03/01/17
u just described all lawyers, accountants, corporate drones
aphrodisiac mediation
  03/01/17
Nope, fine to be lawyer if you're on partner track or a part...
Sooty Vibrant Station
  03/01/17
...
Sooty Vibrant Station
  11/23/17
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chestnut exhilarant orchestra pit
  03/01/17
At my firm of counsels work hard without the prospect of adv...
umber nubile coldplay fan dopamine
  03/01/17
What's an "of counsel"?
rambunctious arousing crackhouse new version
  11/23/17
Consolation prize title an associate can get instead of brea...
Clear ceo
  11/23/17
Who gets more respect at a v20: a brand new junior service p...
Sooty Vibrant Station
  11/23/17
define respect
cyan casino deer antler
  11/23/17
Who goes to whose office for a meeting? Who comes first in a...
Sooty Vibrant Station
  11/23/17
who cares about this shit
cyan casino deer antler
  11/23/17
It'd be demeaning to be some 60 year old bro who's an expert...
Sooty Vibrant Station
  11/23/17
At my firm (regional big-ish law), our of counsel bill 1200 ...
bull headed racy theater stage regret
  11/23/17
? prestige is everything
cyan casino deer antler
  11/23/17
...
Sooty Vibrant Station
  12/09/17


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Date: March 1st, 2017 4:49 PM
Author: Amber Beady-eyed Weed Whacker Karate

The idea of just having had to deal with all that shit of being an Of Counsel at some big firm in a non-specialty area for that entire time I've been gone seems so terrible, I almost shed a tear.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729577)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 4:56 PM
Author: Sooty Vibrant Station

Don't of counsels usually have some specialized knowledge or skillsets? That's why firms keep them around.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729627)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 4:57 PM
Author: Amber Beady-eyed Weed Whacker Karate

at my old firm the models was that Partners bring in business and senior associates and of counsel manage it....definitely some of counsel are specialist, but lots aren't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729634)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 4:49 PM
Author: aphrodisiac mediation

him - making $450-500k working 9-4 with ocassional nights and weekends, billing 1600/year

you - poast on xo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729580)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 4:52 PM
Author: Amber Beady-eyed Weed Whacker Karate

more like $350k for 2500 hours a year



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729600)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 4:55 PM
Author: aphrodisiac mediation

no, of counsel work closer to 1500 than 2500

and sr assoc make liek 300 base, ofc will make more + bonus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729617)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 4:57 PM
Author: Amber Beady-eyed Weed Whacker Karate

not at my old firm. Of Counsel weren't lockstep, so senior associates often made more, especially with bonus.

And the non-specialist of counsel billed a ton of hours.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729637)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:04 PM
Author: aphrodisiac mediation

sorry bout your tiny pink firm bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729683)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:12 PM
Author: Amber Beady-eyed Weed Whacker Karate

It was a tip top firm. The model was actually very smart. Allowed the partners to avoid as much grunt work as possible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729737)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:14 PM
Author: aphrodisiac mediation

of counsel wouldnt stick around at a "tip top firm" if they were billing 2500, making less than sr assoc, and had no partnership chances. play flame better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729750)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:17 PM
Author: charcoal university volcanic crater

poaster isn't flaming unless he and i work at same place. of counsel would bill 2000-2400 hours and pay $350k - $500k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729763)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:20 PM
Author: Chocolate Hairless Legal Warrant

This is my experience as well although I think the bill closer to 2000 and make closer to 500k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729783)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:24 PM
Author: aphrodisiac mediation

so basiclaly close to what i said

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729806)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:30 PM
Author: Chocolate Hairless Legal Warrant

No - there is a massive difference between 1500 and 2000 billables

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729854)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:47 PM
Author: charcoal university volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729953)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:20 PM
Author: Amber Beady-eyed Weed Whacker Karate

These are people 15+ years out of lawschool with absolutely no business of their own....many don't have any other option that pays as much other than being the same thing at another law firm....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729784)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 4:58 PM
Author: Sooty Vibrant Station

Of counsels are eliterally laughed at behind their back though. They have zero respect from anyone

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729639)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:04 PM
Author: aphrodisiac mediation

they have the joy of scholarship, wat more do you need

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729685)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:14 PM
Author: Sooty Vibrant Station

Being an of counsel is the quintessential example of a bitchmade "man" broken in pieces by GC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729751)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:15 PM
Author: aphrodisiac mediation

u just described all lawyers, accountants, corporate drones

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729753)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:19 PM
Author: Sooty Vibrant Station

Nope, fine to be lawyer if you're on partner track or a partner. At least you're getting a piece of the pie. But if you stay at the firm after they told you "lolno" you're a fucking loser.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729775)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 6:38 PM
Author: Sooty Vibrant Station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758090)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:05 PM
Author: chestnut exhilarant orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729689)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:44 PM
Author: umber nubile coldplay fan dopamine

At my firm of counsels work hard without the prospect of advancement. I'm sure the money is okay but it's otherwise the worst of all worlds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729935)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 6:57 PM
Author: rambunctious arousing crackhouse new version

What's an "of counsel"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758158)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:14 PM
Author: Clear ceo

Consolation prize title an associate can get instead of breakfast.

Usually in BIGLAW it's up or out so if you get no-breakfasted you're expected to leave. Sometimes though they want to keep you as their bitch so they make you "of counsel".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758239)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:16 PM
Author: Sooty Vibrant Station

Who gets more respect at a v20: a brand new junior service partner or a senior of counsel who's been at the firm for 30 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758251)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:18 PM
Author: cyan casino deer antler

define respect

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758259)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:22 PM
Author: Sooty Vibrant Station

Who goes to whose office for a meeting? Who comes first in a CC line

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758282)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:23 PM
Author: cyan casino deer antler

who cares about this shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758287)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:30 PM
Author: Sooty Vibrant Station

It'd be demeaning to be some 60 year old bro who's an expert in his field and he has to sit in earls office to get briefed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758326)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:18 PM
Author: bull headed racy theater stage regret

At my firm (regional big-ish law), our of counsel bill 1200 hours and make 200k. Seems like a sweet gig

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758257)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:19 PM
Author: cyan casino deer antler

? prestige is everything

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758262)



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Date: December 9th, 2017 6:18 PM
Author: Sooty Vibrant Station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34877515)