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When I look back at Of Counsel still at my old Biglaw firm, I shudder...
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Date: March 1st, 2017 4:49 PM Author: Pontificating Ape Liquid Oxygen The idea of just having had to deal with all that shit of being an Of Counsel at some big firm in a non-specialty area for that entire time I've been gone seems so terrible, I almost shed a tear. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729577) |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 4:56 PM Author: silver theatre Don't of counsels usually have some specialized knowledge or skillsets? That's why firms keep them around. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729627) |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 4:57 PM Author: Pontificating Ape Liquid Oxygen at my old firm the models was that Partners bring in business and senior associates and of counsel manage it....definitely some of counsel are specialist, but lots aren't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729634) |
Date: March 1st, 2017 4:49 PM Author: Vengeful Locale him - making $450-500k working 9-4 with ocassional nights and weekends, billing 1600/year
you - poast on xo |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 4:52 PM Author: Pontificating Ape Liquid Oxygen more like $350k for 2500 hours a year
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Date: March 1st, 2017 4:55 PM Author: Vengeful Locale no, of counsel work closer to 1500 than 2500
and sr assoc make liek 300 base, ofc will make more + bonus |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 4:57 PM Author: Pontificating Ape Liquid Oxygen not at my old firm. Of Counsel weren't lockstep, so senior associates often made more, especially with bonus.
And the non-specialist of counsel billed a ton of hours. |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:04 PM Author: Vengeful Locale sorry bout your tiny pink firm bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729683) |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:12 PM Author: Pontificating Ape Liquid Oxygen It was a tip top firm. The model was actually very smart. Allowed the partners to avoid as much grunt work as possible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729737) |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:14 PM Author: Vengeful Locale of counsel wouldnt stick around at a "tip top firm" if they were billing 2500, making less than sr assoc, and had no partnership chances. play flame better (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729750) |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:17 PM Author: Bateful milky death wish poaster isn't flaming unless he and i work at same place. of counsel would bill 2000-2400 hours and pay $350k - $500k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729763) |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:20 PM Author: zippy brindle base This is my experience as well although I think the bill closer to 2000 and make closer to 500k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729783) |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:24 PM Author: Vengeful Locale so basiclaly close to what i said (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729806) |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:30 PM Author: zippy brindle base No - there is a massive difference between 1500 and 2000 billables (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729854) |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:47 PM Author: Bateful milky death wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729953) |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:20 PM Author: Pontificating Ape Liquid Oxygen These are people 15+ years out of lawschool with absolutely no business of their own....many don't have any other option that pays as much other than being the same thing at another law firm.... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729784) |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 4:58 PM Author: silver theatre Of counsels are eliterally laughed at behind their back though. They have zero respect from anyone (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729639) |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:04 PM Author: Vengeful Locale they have the joy of scholarship, wat more do you need (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729685) |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:14 PM Author: silver theatre Being an of counsel is the quintessential example of a bitchmade "man" broken in pieces by GC (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729751) |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:15 PM Author: Vengeful Locale u just described all lawyers, accountants, corporate drones (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729753) |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:19 PM Author: silver theatre Nope, fine to be lawyer if you're on partner track or a partner. At least you're getting a piece of the pie. But if you stay at the firm after they told you "lolno" you're a fucking loser. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729775) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 6:38 PM Author: silver theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758090) |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:05 PM Author: Anal bull headed piazza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729689) |
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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:44 PM Author: Adventurous rebellious doctorate At my firm of counsels work hard without the prospect of advancement. I'm sure the money is okay but it's otherwise the worst of all worlds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729935) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 6:57 PM Author: Underhanded old irish cottage dilemma What's an "of counsel"? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758158) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:14 PM Author: sapphire school corn cake Consolation prize title an associate can get instead of breakfast.
Usually in BIGLAW it's up or out so if you get no-breakfasted you're expected to leave. Sometimes though they want to keep you as their bitch so they make you "of counsel". |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:16 PM Author: silver theatre Who gets more respect at a v20: a brand new junior service partner or a senior of counsel who's been at the firm for 30 years (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758251) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:18 PM Author: bistre center define respect (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758259) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:22 PM Author: silver theatre Who goes to whose office for a meeting? Who comes first in a CC line (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758282) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:23 PM Author: bistre center who cares about this shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758287) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:30 PM Author: silver theatre It'd be demeaning to be some 60 year old bro who's an expert in his field and he has to sit in earls office to get briefed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758326) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:18 PM Author: Slimy Salmon Preventive Strike At my firm (regional big-ish law), our of counsel bill 1200 hours and make 200k. Seems like a sweet gig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758257) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:19 PM Author: bistre center ? prestige is everything (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758262) |
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Date: December 9th, 2017 6:18 PM Author: silver theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34877515) |