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How can ppl who earn $33,000/per annnum afford health insurance
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Date: March 6th, 2017 8:09 PM Author: contagious topaz giraffe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32769013) |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 11:24 PM Author: Wonderful casino idiot (Freedumb hater) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32770726) |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 11:33 PM Author: Rose Appetizing Address (guy who likes free stuff) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32770786) |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 11:36 PM Author: Wonderful casino idiot so how should they have healthcare? Food stamp tax credits? JFC just do the most efficient thing and go to national health for all poors |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 11:38 PM Author: Rose Appetizing Address Fuck you. They can buy health insurance like the rest of us. I can't afford to pay for anyone else (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32770829) |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 11:46 PM Author: Wonderful casino idiot (Guy who doesn't understand that EMTALA creates inefficient socialized medicine via the ER- and is probably still on his mom's healthcare) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32770873) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 1:55 AM Author: Thriller Psychic Hospital I fucking love when libs cite man made rules as immutable forces of nature. It's a perfect little window into the liberal mind. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32771493) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 2:08 AM Author: Rose Appetizing Address They literally think health insurance can't exist without federal interference. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32771547) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 2:07 AM Author: Rose Appetizing Address I'm 27. The arbitrary rule Obama created cuts you off at 26. And if I'm still on my parent's healthcare, why am I arguing for free market insurance? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32771542) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 11:09 AM Author: razzle abode it's not arbitrary, they give you just enough time to spend a year at an unpaid internship before deciding to go to law school at an FTT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32773056) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 11:28 AM Author: Rose Appetizing Address (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32773169) |
Date: March 6th, 2017 8:11 PM Author: Green Genital Piercing if they're not getting it through their employer, they often can't. that's a bad income range, because it's too high for significant subsidies in many areas but it's still a poverty wage for most purposes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32769034) |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 8:22 PM Author: contagious topaz giraffe So do they have to pay a penalty for not having health insurance to IRS??? How does this work? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32769153) |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 8:12 PM Author: Slimy Boyish Area Antidepressant Drug Exactly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32769048) |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 8:13 PM Author: vivacious ticket booth JUST DO TAX DEDUCTIONS AND BOOTSTRAPS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32769062) |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 8:15 PM Author: thirsty passionate garrison At 33k you'd get significant subsidies on a marketplace plan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32769082) |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 8:16 PM Author: Slimy Boyish Area Antidepressant Drug It's called AN INCENTIVE TO MAKE MORE MONEY! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32769097) |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 8:18 PM Author: Rose Appetizing Address $250 X 12 = $3,000 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32769112) |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 8:19 PM Author: Sinister telephone ohhh $250/mo that's cute "The average ObamaCare premium rose to $408 per month for 2016 plans" Literally 15% of your pre-tax income toward health insurance LJL |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 8:20 PM Author: Rose Appetizing Address Should health insurance be your top priority? What do you want exactly, a government 401k as well? If you decide to buy an Xbox instead of getting health care that's your choice (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32769136) |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 8:24 PM Author: Sinister telephone i don't give a fuck about proles dying from disease, i give a fuck proles cratering ARE consumption-based economy if proles stop buying shit, your retirement savings plummet, too, lil brej health ins | coastal housing stock | student loans = depression |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 8:29 PM Author: Rose Appetizing Address Paying $250 a month for health insurance is going to crush the housing market? What's killing my savings is taxing my income to pay for everyone else's health care (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32769212) |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 8:38 PM Author: contagious topaz giraffe I don't pay health insurance... I earn money under the table (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32769279) |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 8:39 PM Author: Rose Appetizing Address Good for you. Fuck Uncle sam (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32769285) |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 8:40 PM Author: contagious topaz giraffe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32769296) |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 8:42 PM Author: mildly autistic offensive idea he suggested i envy you man. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32769314) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 11:24 AM Author: Sinister telephone "Paying $250 a month for health insurance is going to crush the housing market? " yes, that's over 1/3 of a monthly housing payment |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 11:27 AM Author: Rose Appetizing Address so you're clamining people will forego housing to buy health insurance? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32773157) |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 8:18 PM Author: Sinister telephone Maybe they should get a real job and stop being a lazy McDonalds employee (Republican) |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 8:19 PM Author: Rose Appetizing Address or just buy insurance for 3-5k a year. Wtf (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32769119) |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 8:19 PM Author: Sinister telephone just do 20% of post-tax income for health insurance, guys in my high school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32769127) |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 8:21 PM Author: Rose Appetizing Address That's correct. Life is hard sometimes. At least you can afford insurance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32769141) |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 8:23 PM Author: Rose Appetizing Address didn't you claim to be a pro constitution guy? If so, wtf is this? My bad if I have you confused with someone else (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32769161) |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 8:25 PM Author: Sinister telephone That was me. What does my post have to do with the Constitution? I'm identifying fuckery and cautioning that this problem is not a simple one to explain (see ITT the one-sentence missives), not suggesting any laws. saying "X is stupid" is not equivalent to "not X is good" |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 8:43 PM Author: mildly autistic offensive idea he suggested saying "X is stupid" is not equivalent to "not X is good"
i beg to differ. (the meanest fish) |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 8:20 PM Author: Obsidian immigrant hell Spend the $ they're lazy asses aren't spending on taxes on health insurance. Then write it off (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32769131) |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 8:44 PM Author: mildly autistic offensive idea he suggested so is the consensus that people need to just shut the fuck up and pay? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32769335) |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 8:45 PM Author: Rose Appetizing Address (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32769349) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 9:44 AM Author: Startling field i guess (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32772573) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 9:49 AM Author: Dead ebony box office clown Life is supposed to be worse when you are poor. They drive worse cars (or dont drive at all), have worse homes, clothes, and educations. Why can't poors have worse healthcare too? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32772604) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 10:00 AM Author: talking step-uncle's house pistol they don't drive worse roads or have worse police protection just because they're poor though. We should provide a basic level of protection for poors and allow people to buy more if they want imo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32772660) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 10:08 AM Author: Dead ebony box office clown http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/07/politics/jason-chaffetz-health-care-iphones/index.html (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32772705) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 10:10 AM Author: talking step-uncle's house pistol hate to break it to you, but the $50 a month a poor spends on an Iphone isn't going to cover a single hospital visit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32772717) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 10:12 AM Author: razzle abode how about if you add up all the other stupid shit they buy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32772722) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 10:13 AM Author: talking step-uncle's house pistol It adds up to less than $33k a year bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32772726) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 10:15 AM Author: razzle abode show us your $33K insurance plan faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32772739) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 10:47 AM Author: talking step-uncle's house pistol Bro, the cheapest plan you can get in my state for someone my age is $4300 a year. If ur making $33k a year, that is probably going to be ur second biggest expense aside from groceries and housing. And that's for just one person. No idea what it would run for more than one.
This is like the whole cutting NPR's funding to fix the national deficit. Maybe that would help, but not nearly enough to make any impact in the long run. |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 10:49 AM Author: Rose Appetizing Address What's the problem exactly? You think poor people shouldn't have to pay for anything or what? Why can't they just buy emergency coverage for $65 a month, like college students used to do? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32772938) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 10:51 AM Author: talking step-uncle's house pistol I think if emergency coverage is only $65 a month per person, then the gov should just buy it for everyone and allow you to buy more if you want. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32772946) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 11:28 AM Author: razzle abode why the hell would they do that if all the poors would just go bankrupt anyways because they have no savings? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32773174) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 11:30 AM Author: talking step-uncle's house pistol You do that to protect providers, not the poor. Poor people who can't afford to pay the deductible and don't purchase some supplemental plan that reduces such a deductible should suffer the consequences imo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32773194) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 12:05 PM Author: razzle abode lol at "protecting providers". providers are the real enemy, not insurance carriers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32773428) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 11:05 AM Author: razzle abode they could if they cut out the unnecessary crap they buy. the real problem is the deductibles and coinsurance on top of that. it just stops making sense for people, esp with no preexisting condition requirements.
I pay much more than that anyways despite having an employer funded plan and falling into the "if you like your plan you can keep it" bucket. Really above all it's costs that are out of control and too many people are getting rich of regular people getting sick. having the govt start paying for everything will just throw gasoline on that flame. |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 11:12 AM Author: talking step-uncle's house pistol That and the entire life of someone making 33k a year is a house of cards if they get sick. U want ppl to spend their lives not having comforts of distraction from being poor so they Can spend 4K a year on ins that , if they get sick, still results in their filing bankruptcy bc they don't have another $6k for the deductible and since they were paycheck to paycheck, now they can't even pay rent or electric bill. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32773070) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 11:17 AM Author: razzle abode i mean yea, if you're poor then you should live like a poor. 8 fucking years of Obama and he did jack dick to cut provider costs which is the real problem. libs who try to take the high road now can eat my asshole.
should we instead just do single payer for everyone and, in addition to lowering the quality and increasing price for the vast majority of people, raise this $33K faggot's taxes by $5K a year (remember that's solidly middle class for a single person in much of the country)? all so a handful of actual gutter poors can get the same care as everyone else? just open some shitass clinics they can go to and leave everyone else the fuck alone. |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 11:22 AM Author: Rose Appetizing Address Crr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32773132) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 11:23 AM Author: talking step-uncle's house pistol The point is, ppl aren't going to pay for a product that still results in the same result as if they didn't-bankruptcy.
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Date: March 7th, 2017 11:27 AM Author: razzle abode my point was that it's deductibles and coinsurance as well as retarded costs that are the real problem and single payer would not be any different for the $33K guy. They could afford $4300 a year if they had to if it meant everything was covered. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32773156) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 11:29 AM Author: talking step-uncle's house pistol I agree with that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32773183) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 10:10 AM Author: razzle abode the problem is people view HC like they do roads or the power grid where it's a common network that everyone uses. really it should be more like education and just meet the basic needs of the community. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32772712) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 10:21 AM Author: Dead ebony box office clown It's impractical to exclude people from the road (although roads are much better maintained in rich areas). Many would argue that poors receive much worse police protection, but they generally cannot be entirely excluded.
Unlike roads or even police, it is easy to exclude poors from expensive healthcare plans and services. Heathcare simply is not the same type of public good. |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 10:50 AM Author: Rose Appetizing Address (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32772943) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 10:12 AM Author: contagious topaz giraffe Rofl. Upper middle class ppl are the worst. They think they're better because they drive an overpriced car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32772723) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 10:18 AM Author: Startling field CR. Most of the truly rich people I know would never say or even think shit like this. The UMC folk though...holy shit they actually think they are better. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32772758) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 10:26 AM Author: contagious topaz giraffe Truly rich ppl are chill af (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32772811) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 10:29 AM Author: Startling field CR. Honestly it's my middle class, mildly UMC and straight up rich friends I get along with best. The ones who are like UMC but not rich are such insecure negative blowhards always talking shit about people. I would probably have to pry nasty words about others out of my rich friends' mouths. And my middle class friends have all sorts of personalities but are consistently hardworking so I can always respect them for that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32772822) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 11:12 AM Author: razzle abode dual income couples where both make like $125-$150K are pretty much the worst people on earth. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32773074) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 10:37 AM Author: Pungent range useless brakes We should call premiums "leases" and then the poors will just put it on their credit cards like their cars (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32772869) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 10:38 AM Author: razzle abode new lease on life. zero cash due at signing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32772879) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 11:05 AM Author: Rose Appetizing Address (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32773032) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 10:38 AM Author: laughsome sexy hissy fit if only it weren't mandatory to purchase (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32772876) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 10:56 AM Author: flesh codepig plaza These lazy poors need to go out and beat the bushes for a good deal. Call up Aetna and get a quote. Then call up Blue across and ask them to beat Aetna's offer. When they do, call United and do the same thing. Then call Aetna back and show them United's offer and give them a chance to beat it.
You're going to be able to negotiate great deals with tons of competitors. |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 10:57 AM Author: talking step-uncle's house pistol Cr. Then call Blue Cross of California and tell them how cheap Blue Cross of Iowa will offer u coverage for and BCBS of California will be forced to negotiate lower rates with hospitals in Iowa to get ur business. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32772989) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 11:00 AM Author: razzle abode the real stupid part is that most people instead just go to their local agent, who in addition to being paid on percent of first year premium and having no incentive to save you money, is also contracted with a specific carrier and can't sell anything else. the whole process is fucked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32773010) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 11:27 AM Author: contagious topaz giraffe So Obamacare sucks?!?? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32773162) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 12:11 PM Author: contagious topaz giraffe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3545427&forum_id=2#32773495) |
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Date: March 7th, 2017 5:46 PM Author: Bisexual Chocolate Gas Station Trust Fund The market has spoken.
Those people should die. |