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Are there college-educated people who don't get the logic of the contrapositive?

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aromatic corner
  03/18/17
ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates
obsidian racy hall toaster
  03/18/17
probably like 80%
titillating fortuitous meteor
  03/18/17
That must be an exaggeration
aromatic corner
  03/18/17
you greatly overestimate college graduates
obsidian racy hall toaster
  03/18/17
I've literally taught them. they don't know shit
titillating fortuitous meteor
  03/18/17
can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to t...
low-t cumskin
  03/18/17
they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. bu...
titillating fortuitous meteor
  03/18/17
They are generally more confused by the equivalency between ...
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  03/18/17
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aromatic corner
  03/18/17
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aromatic corner
  03/18/17
tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chan...
talented dead knife sex offender
  03/18/17
What do you mean by "get it"?
blathering temple
  03/18/17
That it's logically valid.
Green Fiercely-loyal Filthpig Base
  03/18/17
You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional state...
blathering temple
  03/18/17
don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's ...
startling round eye
  03/18/17
either not get it when explained or do get it when explained...
low-t cumskin
  03/18/17
what's that?
cerebral deranged lettuce boltzmann
  03/18/17
Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get...
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low-t cumskin
  04/27/17
Most college grads don't.
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  04/27/17
explain
low-t cumskin
  04/28/17
You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. ...
sable contagious macaca casino
  04/28/17
read this as "logic of the contraceptive"
beady-eyed sneaky criminal
  04/27/17
As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly en...
Big umber crackhouse masturbator
  04/28/17
Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.
gold dashing hell nowag
  04/28/17
but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract ...
low-t cumskin
  04/28/17
first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than aver...
shivering sick gaping principal's office
  04/28/17
(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)
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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: aromatic corner



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: obsidian racy hall toaster

ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860237)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: titillating fortuitous meteor

probably like 80%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860246)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: aromatic corner

That must be an exaggeration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860271)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: obsidian racy hall toaster

you greatly overestimate college graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860274)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:20 PM
Author: titillating fortuitous meteor

I've literally taught them. they don't know shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860432)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:01 PM
Author: low-t cumskin

can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to them? what issue do they have with the logic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860674)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: titillating fortuitous meteor

they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. but if it comes up in the wild, forget about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861332)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: Pink indirect expression

They are generally more confused by the equivalency between converse and inverse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860254)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: aromatic corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860425)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: aromatic corner



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:59 PM
Author: talented dead knife sex offender

tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chant when I taught it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861064)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: blathering temple

What do you mean by "get it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861081)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:05 PM
Author: Green Fiercely-loyal Filthpig Base

That it's logically valid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861108)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: blathering temple

You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional statement is always true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861116)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: startling round eye

don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's explained? or like they come out of college, graduating and aren't familiar with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861123)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: low-t cumskin

either not get it when explained or do get it when explained, but not able to apply it to statements whose logic does not correlate to any real-life situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861648)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:06 PM
Author: cerebral deranged lettuce boltzmann

what's that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861443)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: French Excitant Whorehouse

Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get college degrees, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861460)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: low-t cumskin



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Date: March 19th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: low-t cumskin



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Date: March 19th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: low-t cumskin



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Date: March 19th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: aphrodisiac state



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:23 PM
Author: low-t cumskin



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: Emerald boyish new version

tmf

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Date: March 22nd, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: low-t cumskin



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Date: April 14th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: low-t cumskin



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: low-t cumskin



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:53 PM
Author: sable contagious macaca casino

Most college grads don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181585)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: low-t cumskin

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181727)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: sable contagious macaca casino

You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. The median college grad IQ is lower. QED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181738)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: beady-eyed sneaky criminal

read this as "logic of the contraceptive"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181634)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Big umber crackhouse masturbator

As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly enough when you explain it to them. They are DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181742)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: gold dashing hell nowag

Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181755)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: low-t cumskin

but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract situations?

how did they do on those grouping games with chains of conditional statements?

also describe the DEVASTATION

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181773)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: shivering sick gaping principal's office

first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than average college students if you are an lsat instructor.

second, you didn't say how many got it before you explained it

third, i'd like to hear more about your n vs s stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181802)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: Coral Goyim

(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359479)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: Coral Goyim



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: low-t cumskin



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:06 AM
Author: low-t cumskin



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:20 AM
Author: low-t cumskin



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Date: April 28th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: low-t cumskin



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Date: April 28th, 2017 2:18 PM
Author: low-t cumskin



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: low-t cumskin



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Date: June 15th, 2017 8:39 PM
Author: low-t cumskin



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