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Are there college-educated people who don't get the logic of the contrapositive?

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Laughsome Nibblets Location
  03/18/17
ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates
Bateful Giraffe
  03/18/17
probably like 80%
lemon provocative dopamine
  03/18/17
That must be an exaggeration
Laughsome Nibblets Location
  03/18/17
you greatly overestimate college graduates
Bateful Giraffe
  03/18/17
I've literally taught them. they don't know shit
lemon provocative dopamine
  03/18/17
can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to t...
Out-of-control hall legal warrant
  03/18/17
they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. bu...
lemon provocative dopamine
  03/18/17
They are generally more confused by the equivalency between ...
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  03/18/17
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Laughsome Nibblets Location
  03/18/17
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Laughsome Nibblets Location
  03/18/17
tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chan...
Exhilarant Useless Trust Fund Hominid
  03/18/17
What do you mean by "get it"?
Self-absorbed Angry Philosopher-king
  03/18/17
That it's logically valid.
spectacular orange garrison
  03/18/17
You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional state...
Self-absorbed Angry Philosopher-king
  03/18/17
don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's ...
Costumed Piazza
  03/18/17
either not get it when explained or do get it when explained...
Out-of-control hall legal warrant
  03/18/17
what's that?
Marvelous indigo market doctorate
  03/18/17
Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get...
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tmf
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Out-of-control hall legal warrant
  04/27/17
Most college grads don't.
Orchid Multi-colored Tank
  04/27/17
explain
Out-of-control hall legal warrant
  04/28/17
You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. ...
Orchid Multi-colored Tank
  04/28/17
read this as "logic of the contraceptive"
Racy frozen tanning salon
  04/27/17
As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly en...
passionate church building
  04/28/17
Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.
Learning disabled drunken dragon
  04/28/17
but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract ...
Out-of-control hall legal warrant
  04/28/17
first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than aver...
Dark Blathering Stag Film
  04/28/17
(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)
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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: Laughsome Nibblets Location



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860235)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: Bateful Giraffe

ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860237)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: lemon provocative dopamine

probably like 80%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860246)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: Laughsome Nibblets Location

That must be an exaggeration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860271)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: Bateful Giraffe

you greatly overestimate college graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860274)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:20 PM
Author: lemon provocative dopamine

I've literally taught them. they don't know shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860432)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:01 PM
Author: Out-of-control hall legal warrant

can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to them? what issue do they have with the logic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860674)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: lemon provocative dopamine

they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. but if it comes up in the wild, forget about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861332)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: soul-stirring bipolar newt sandwich

They are generally more confused by the equivalency between converse and inverse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860254)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: Laughsome Nibblets Location



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860425)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: Laughsome Nibblets Location



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860937)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:59 PM
Author: Exhilarant Useless Trust Fund Hominid

tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chant when I taught it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861064)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: Self-absorbed Angry Philosopher-king

What do you mean by "get it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861081)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:05 PM
Author: spectacular orange garrison

That it's logically valid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861108)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: Self-absorbed Angry Philosopher-king

You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional statement is always true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861116)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: Costumed Piazza

don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's explained? or like they come out of college, graduating and aren't familiar with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861123)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: Out-of-control hall legal warrant

either not get it when explained or do get it when explained, but not able to apply it to statements whose logic does not correlate to any real-life situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861648)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:06 PM
Author: Marvelous indigo market doctorate

what's that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861443)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: Disturbing Sexy School Cafeteria Sneaky Criminal

Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get college degrees, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861460)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: Out-of-control hall legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32863514)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: Out-of-control hall legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32864062)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: Out-of-control hall legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865145)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: cheese-eating mauve center water buffalo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865235)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:23 PM
Author: Out-of-control hall legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868476)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: Plum Pungent Range

tmf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868488)



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Date: March 22nd, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: Out-of-control hall legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32890290)



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Date: April 14th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: Out-of-control hall legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33070179)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: Out-of-control hall legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181541)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:53 PM
Author: Orchid Multi-colored Tank

Most college grads don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181585)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: Out-of-control hall legal warrant

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181727)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Orchid Multi-colored Tank

You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. The median college grad IQ is lower. QED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181738)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: Racy frozen tanning salon

read this as "logic of the contraceptive"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181634)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: passionate church building

As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly enough when you explain it to them. They are DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181742)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: Learning disabled drunken dragon

Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181755)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: Out-of-control hall legal warrant

but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract situations?

how did they do on those grouping games with chains of conditional statements?

also describe the DEVASTATION

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181773)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: Dark Blathering Stag Film

first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than average college students if you are an lsat instructor.

second, you didn't say how many got it before you explained it

third, i'd like to hear more about your n vs s stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181802)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Cream Point Pocket Flask

(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359479)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Cream Point Pocket Flask



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359469)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: Out-of-control hall legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181919)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:06 AM
Author: Out-of-control hall legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182675)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:20 AM
Author: Out-of-control hall legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182732)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: Out-of-control hall legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33183130)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 2:18 PM
Author: Out-of-control hall legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33185399)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: Out-of-control hall legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359387)



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Date: June 15th, 2017 8:39 PM
Author: Out-of-control hall legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33568398)