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Are there college-educated people who don't get the logic of the contrapositive?

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Fragrant preventive strike
  03/18/17
ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates
vigorous citrine heaven
  03/18/17
probably like 80%
exhilarant violent electric furnace
  03/18/17
That must be an exaggeration
Fragrant preventive strike
  03/18/17
you greatly overestimate college graduates
vigorous citrine heaven
  03/18/17
I've literally taught them. they don't know shit
exhilarant violent electric furnace
  03/18/17
can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to t...
twinkling whorehouse
  03/18/17
they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. bu...
exhilarant violent electric furnace
  03/18/17
They are generally more confused by the equivalency between ...
hairraiser doctorate
  03/18/17
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Fragrant preventive strike
  03/18/17
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Fragrant preventive strike
  03/18/17
tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chan...
Sick Vivacious Chapel
  03/18/17
What do you mean by "get it"?
magenta feces
  03/18/17
That it's logically valid.
navy disturbing haunted graveyard trust fund
  03/18/17
You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional state...
magenta feces
  03/18/17
don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's ...
Copper church
  03/18/17
either not get it when explained or do get it when explained...
twinkling whorehouse
  03/18/17
what's that?
titillating step-uncle's house affirmative action
  03/18/17
Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get...
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twinkling whorehouse
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mind-boggling walnut home place of business
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twinkling whorehouse
  03/19/17
tmf
motley honey-headed crackhouse ape
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twinkling whorehouse
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twinkling whorehouse
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twinkling whorehouse
  04/27/17
Most college grads don't.
Buck-toothed Hideous Hissy Fit Point
  04/27/17
explain
twinkling whorehouse
  04/28/17
You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. ...
Buck-toothed Hideous Hissy Fit Point
  04/28/17
read this as "logic of the contraceptive"
At-the-ready aphrodisiac liquid oxygen
  04/27/17
As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly en...
sexy arousing friendly grandma
  04/28/17
Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.
Purple Fear-inspiring Tanning Salon Windowlicker
  04/28/17
but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract ...
twinkling whorehouse
  04/28/17
first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than aver...
chest-beating toilet seat
  04/28/17
(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)
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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: Fragrant preventive strike



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: vigorous citrine heaven

ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860237)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: exhilarant violent electric furnace

probably like 80%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860246)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: Fragrant preventive strike

That must be an exaggeration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860271)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: vigorous citrine heaven

you greatly overestimate college graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860274)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:20 PM
Author: exhilarant violent electric furnace

I've literally taught them. they don't know shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860432)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:01 PM
Author: twinkling whorehouse

can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to them? what issue do they have with the logic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860674)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: exhilarant violent electric furnace

they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. but if it comes up in the wild, forget about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861332)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: hairraiser doctorate

They are generally more confused by the equivalency between converse and inverse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860254)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: Fragrant preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860425)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: Fragrant preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860937)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:59 PM
Author: Sick Vivacious Chapel

tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chant when I taught it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861064)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: magenta feces

What do you mean by "get it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861081)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:05 PM
Author: navy disturbing haunted graveyard trust fund

That it's logically valid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861108)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: magenta feces

You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional statement is always true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861116)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: Copper church

don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's explained? or like they come out of college, graduating and aren't familiar with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861123)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: twinkling whorehouse

either not get it when explained or do get it when explained, but not able to apply it to statements whose logic does not correlate to any real-life situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861648)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:06 PM
Author: titillating step-uncle's house affirmative action

what's that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861443)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: provocative codepig

Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get college degrees, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861460)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: twinkling whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32863514)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: twinkling whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32864062)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: twinkling whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865145)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: mind-boggling walnut home place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865235)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:23 PM
Author: twinkling whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868476)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: motley honey-headed crackhouse ape

tmf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868488)



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Date: March 22nd, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: twinkling whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32890290)



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Date: April 14th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: twinkling whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33070179)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: twinkling whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181541)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:53 PM
Author: Buck-toothed Hideous Hissy Fit Point

Most college grads don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181585)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: twinkling whorehouse

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181727)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Buck-toothed Hideous Hissy Fit Point

You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. The median college grad IQ is lower. QED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181738)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: At-the-ready aphrodisiac liquid oxygen

read this as "logic of the contraceptive"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181634)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: sexy arousing friendly grandma

As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly enough when you explain it to them. They are DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181742)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: Purple Fear-inspiring Tanning Salon Windowlicker

Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181755)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: twinkling whorehouse

but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract situations?

how did they do on those grouping games with chains of conditional statements?

also describe the DEVASTATION

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181773)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: chest-beating toilet seat

first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than average college students if you are an lsat instructor.

second, you didn't say how many got it before you explained it

third, i'd like to hear more about your n vs s stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181802)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: Flatulent olive sweet tailpipe deer antler

(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359479)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: Flatulent olive sweet tailpipe deer antler



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359469)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: twinkling whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181919)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:06 AM
Author: twinkling whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182675)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:20 AM
Author: twinkling whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182732)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: twinkling whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33183130)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 2:18 PM
Author: twinkling whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33185399)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: twinkling whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359387)



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Date: June 15th, 2017 8:39 PM
Author: twinkling whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33568398)