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Are there college-educated people who don't get the logic of the contrapositive?

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flickering hyperventilating university striped hyena
  03/18/17
ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates
bearded fanboi old irish cottage
  03/18/17
probably like 80%
outnumbered potus
  03/18/17
That must be an exaggeration
flickering hyperventilating university striped hyena
  03/18/17
you greatly overestimate college graduates
bearded fanboi old irish cottage
  03/18/17
I've literally taught them. they don't know shit
outnumbered potus
  03/18/17
can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to t...
Tripping elastic band patrolman
  03/18/17
they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. bu...
outnumbered potus
  03/18/17
They are generally more confused by the equivalency between ...
very tactful tank principal's office
  03/18/17
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flickering hyperventilating university striped hyena
  03/18/17
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flickering hyperventilating university striped hyena
  03/18/17
tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chan...
Amethyst Deranged Regret
  03/18/17
What do you mean by "get it"?
Impressive Box Office
  03/18/17
That it's logically valid.
godawful ruby pocket flask
  03/18/17
You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional state...
Impressive Box Office
  03/18/17
don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's ...
peach disrespectful liquid oxygen
  03/18/17
either not get it when explained or do get it when explained...
Tripping elastic band patrolman
  03/18/17
what's that?
unhinged digit ratio
  03/18/17
Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get...
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Tripping elastic band patrolman
  03/19/17
tmf
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Tripping elastic band patrolman
  04/27/17
Most college grads don't.
Mischievous Laughsome Hell
  04/27/17
explain
Tripping elastic band patrolman
  04/28/17
You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. ...
Mischievous Laughsome Hell
  04/28/17
read this as "logic of the contraceptive"
Azure Swashbuckling Parlour Dysfunction
  04/27/17
As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly en...
Iridescent Painfully Honest Macaca
  04/28/17
Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.
Plum space
  04/28/17
but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract ...
Tripping elastic band patrolman
  04/28/17
first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than aver...
vivacious nofapping lettuce
  04/28/17
(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)
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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: flickering hyperventilating university striped hyena



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860235)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: bearded fanboi old irish cottage

ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860237)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: outnumbered potus

probably like 80%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860246)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: flickering hyperventilating university striped hyena

That must be an exaggeration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860271)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: bearded fanboi old irish cottage

you greatly overestimate college graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860274)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:20 PM
Author: outnumbered potus

I've literally taught them. they don't know shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860432)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:01 PM
Author: Tripping elastic band patrolman

can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to them? what issue do they have with the logic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860674)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: outnumbered potus

they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. but if it comes up in the wild, forget about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861332)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: very tactful tank principal's office

They are generally more confused by the equivalency between converse and inverse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860254)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: flickering hyperventilating university striped hyena



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860425)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: flickering hyperventilating university striped hyena



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860937)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:59 PM
Author: Amethyst Deranged Regret

tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chant when I taught it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861064)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: Impressive Box Office

What do you mean by "get it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861081)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:05 PM
Author: godawful ruby pocket flask

That it's logically valid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861108)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: Impressive Box Office

You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional statement is always true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861116)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: peach disrespectful liquid oxygen

don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's explained? or like they come out of college, graduating and aren't familiar with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861123)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: Tripping elastic band patrolman

either not get it when explained or do get it when explained, but not able to apply it to statements whose logic does not correlate to any real-life situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861648)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:06 PM
Author: unhinged digit ratio

what's that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861443)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle senate tattoo

Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get college degrees, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861460)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: Tripping elastic band patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32863514)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: Tripping elastic band patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32864062)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: Tripping elastic band patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865145)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: deep son of senegal crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865235)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:23 PM
Author: Tripping elastic band patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868476)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: cerebral bat-shit-crazy site cuck

tmf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868488)



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Date: March 22nd, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: Tripping elastic band patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32890290)



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Date: April 14th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: Tripping elastic band patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33070179)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: Tripping elastic band patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181541)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:53 PM
Author: Mischievous Laughsome Hell

Most college grads don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181585)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: Tripping elastic band patrolman

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181727)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Mischievous Laughsome Hell

You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. The median college grad IQ is lower. QED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181738)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: Azure Swashbuckling Parlour Dysfunction

read this as "logic of the contraceptive"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181634)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Iridescent Painfully Honest Macaca

As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly enough when you explain it to them. They are DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181742)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: Plum space

Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181755)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: Tripping elastic band patrolman

but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract situations?

how did they do on those grouping games with chains of conditional statements?

also describe the DEVASTATION

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181773)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: vivacious nofapping lettuce

first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than average college students if you are an lsat instructor.

second, you didn't say how many got it before you explained it

third, i'd like to hear more about your n vs s stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181802)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: titillating honey-headed theater stage roommate

(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359479)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: titillating honey-headed theater stage roommate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359469)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: Tripping elastic band patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181919)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:06 AM
Author: Tripping elastic band patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182675)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:20 AM
Author: Tripping elastic band patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182732)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: Tripping elastic band patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33183130)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 2:18 PM
Author: Tripping elastic band patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33185399)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: Tripping elastic band patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359387)



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Date: June 15th, 2017 8:39 PM
Author: Tripping elastic band patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33568398)