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Are there college-educated people who don't get the logic of the contrapositive?

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claret preventive strike home
  03/18/17
ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates
Laughsome ruby therapy institution
  03/18/17
probably like 80%
insecure heady regret
  03/18/17
That must be an exaggeration
claret preventive strike home
  03/18/17
you greatly overestimate college graduates
Laughsome ruby therapy institution
  03/18/17
I've literally taught them. they don't know shit
insecure heady regret
  03/18/17
can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to t...
Honey-headed fortuitous meteor native
  03/18/17
they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. bu...
insecure heady regret
  03/18/17
They are generally more confused by the equivalency between ...
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  03/18/17
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claret preventive strike home
  03/18/17
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claret preventive strike home
  03/18/17
tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chan...
Cyan Wild Crackhouse
  03/18/17
What do you mean by "get it"?
Cerebral Jew Athletic Conference
  03/18/17
That it's logically valid.
pearly sound barrier point
  03/18/17
You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional state...
Cerebral Jew Athletic Conference
  03/18/17
don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's ...
soul-stirring know-it-all brunch
  03/18/17
either not get it when explained or do get it when explained...
Honey-headed fortuitous meteor native
  03/18/17
what's that?
Floppy unholy church fanboi
  03/18/17
Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get...
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Pontificating affirmative action
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  03/19/17
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Honey-headed fortuitous meteor native
  04/27/17
Most college grads don't.
Bright scourge upon the earth coldplay fan
  04/27/17
explain
Honey-headed fortuitous meteor native
  04/28/17
You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. ...
Bright scourge upon the earth coldplay fan
  04/28/17
read this as "logic of the contraceptive"
exciting corner
  04/27/17
As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly en...
Fiercely-loyal Exhilarant Azn Elastic Band
  04/28/17
Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.
Mentally impaired violet background story business firm
  04/28/17
but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract ...
Honey-headed fortuitous meteor native
  04/28/17
first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than aver...
Submissive internet-worthy locus
  04/28/17
(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)
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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: claret preventive strike home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860235)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: Laughsome ruby therapy institution

ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860237)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: insecure heady regret

probably like 80%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860246)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: claret preventive strike home

That must be an exaggeration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860271)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: Laughsome ruby therapy institution

you greatly overestimate college graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860274)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:20 PM
Author: insecure heady regret

I've literally taught them. they don't know shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860432)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:01 PM
Author: Honey-headed fortuitous meteor native

can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to them? what issue do they have with the logic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860674)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: insecure heady regret

they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. but if it comes up in the wild, forget about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861332)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: fighting idiotic gaping pocket flask

They are generally more confused by the equivalency between converse and inverse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860254)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: claret preventive strike home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860425)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: claret preventive strike home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860937)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:59 PM
Author: Cyan Wild Crackhouse

tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chant when I taught it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861064)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: Cerebral Jew Athletic Conference

What do you mean by "get it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861081)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:05 PM
Author: pearly sound barrier point

That it's logically valid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861108)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: Cerebral Jew Athletic Conference

You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional statement is always true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861116)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: soul-stirring know-it-all brunch

don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's explained? or like they come out of college, graduating and aren't familiar with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861123)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: Honey-headed fortuitous meteor native

either not get it when explained or do get it when explained, but not able to apply it to statements whose logic does not correlate to any real-life situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861648)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:06 PM
Author: Floppy unholy church fanboi

what's that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861443)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: puce school dingle berry

Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get college degrees, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861460)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: Honey-headed fortuitous meteor native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32863514)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: Honey-headed fortuitous meteor native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32864062)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: Honey-headed fortuitous meteor native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865145)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: Pontificating affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865235)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:23 PM
Author: Honey-headed fortuitous meteor native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868476)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: Yapping provocative lay partner

tmf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868488)



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Date: March 22nd, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: Honey-headed fortuitous meteor native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32890290)



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Date: April 14th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: Honey-headed fortuitous meteor native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33070179)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: Honey-headed fortuitous meteor native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181541)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:53 PM
Author: Bright scourge upon the earth coldplay fan

Most college grads don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181585)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: Honey-headed fortuitous meteor native

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181727)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Bright scourge upon the earth coldplay fan

You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. The median college grad IQ is lower. QED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181738)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: exciting corner

read this as "logic of the contraceptive"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181634)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Fiercely-loyal Exhilarant Azn Elastic Band

As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly enough when you explain it to them. They are DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181742)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: Mentally impaired violet background story business firm

Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181755)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: Honey-headed fortuitous meteor native

but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract situations?

how did they do on those grouping games with chains of conditional statements?

also describe the DEVASTATION

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181773)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: Submissive internet-worthy locus

first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than average college students if you are an lsat instructor.

second, you didn't say how many got it before you explained it

third, i'd like to hear more about your n vs s stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181802)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: multi-colored parlor

(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359479)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: multi-colored parlor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359469)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: Honey-headed fortuitous meteor native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181919)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:06 AM
Author: Honey-headed fortuitous meteor native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182675)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:20 AM
Author: Honey-headed fortuitous meteor native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182732)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: Honey-headed fortuitous meteor native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33183130)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 2:18 PM
Author: Honey-headed fortuitous meteor native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33185399)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: Honey-headed fortuitous meteor native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359387)



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Date: June 15th, 2017 8:39 PM
Author: Honey-headed fortuitous meteor native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33568398)