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Are there college-educated people who don't get the logic of the contrapositive?

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Boyish bawdyhouse trust fund
  03/18/17
ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates
underhanded odious alpha locus
  03/18/17
probably like 80%
Out-of-control hell
  03/18/17
That must be an exaggeration
Boyish bawdyhouse trust fund
  03/18/17
you greatly overestimate college graduates
underhanded odious alpha locus
  03/18/17
I've literally taught them. they don't know shit
Out-of-control hell
  03/18/17
can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to t...
Galvanic Mustard Trump Supporter Double Fault
  03/18/17
they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. bu...
Out-of-control hell
  03/18/17
They are generally more confused by the equivalency between ...
mahogany spot
  03/18/17
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Boyish bawdyhouse trust fund
  03/18/17
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Boyish bawdyhouse trust fund
  03/18/17
tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chan...
red aphrodisiac base
  03/18/17
What do you mean by "get it"?
gay big quadroon house
  03/18/17
That it's logically valid.
Soul-stirring indecent theatre
  03/18/17
You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional state...
gay big quadroon house
  03/18/17
don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's ...
Slimy Opaque Hissy Fit Liquid Oxygen
  03/18/17
either not get it when explained or do get it when explained...
Galvanic Mustard Trump Supporter Double Fault
  03/18/17
what's that?
exciting box office indirect expression
  03/18/17
Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get...
know-it-all tripping state macaca
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Galvanic Mustard Trump Supporter Double Fault
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Galvanic Mustard Trump Supporter Double Fault
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tmf
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Galvanic Mustard Trump Supporter Double Fault
  04/27/17
Most college grads don't.
curious hot business firm
  04/27/17
explain
Galvanic Mustard Trump Supporter Double Fault
  04/28/17
You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. ...
curious hot business firm
  04/28/17
read this as "logic of the contraceptive"
bonkers cuckold
  04/27/17
As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly en...
charismatic sandwich
  04/28/17
Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.
Brass goal in life friendly grandma
  04/28/17
but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract ...
Galvanic Mustard Trump Supporter Double Fault
  04/28/17
first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than aver...
henna beady-eyed university therapy
  04/28/17
(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)
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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: Boyish bawdyhouse trust fund



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860235)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: underhanded odious alpha locus

ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860237)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: Out-of-control hell

probably like 80%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860246)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: Boyish bawdyhouse trust fund

That must be an exaggeration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860271)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: underhanded odious alpha locus

you greatly overestimate college graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860274)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:20 PM
Author: Out-of-control hell

I've literally taught them. they don't know shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860432)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:01 PM
Author: Galvanic Mustard Trump Supporter Double Fault

can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to them? what issue do they have with the logic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860674)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: Out-of-control hell

they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. but if it comes up in the wild, forget about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861332)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: mahogany spot

They are generally more confused by the equivalency between converse and inverse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860254)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: Boyish bawdyhouse trust fund



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860425)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: Boyish bawdyhouse trust fund



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860937)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:59 PM
Author: red aphrodisiac base

tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chant when I taught it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861064)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: gay big quadroon house

What do you mean by "get it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861081)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:05 PM
Author: Soul-stirring indecent theatre

That it's logically valid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861108)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: gay big quadroon house

You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional statement is always true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861116)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: Slimy Opaque Hissy Fit Liquid Oxygen

don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's explained? or like they come out of college, graduating and aren't familiar with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861123)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: Galvanic Mustard Trump Supporter Double Fault

either not get it when explained or do get it when explained, but not able to apply it to statements whose logic does not correlate to any real-life situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861648)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:06 PM
Author: exciting box office indirect expression

what's that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861443)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: know-it-all tripping state macaca

Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get college degrees, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861460)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: Galvanic Mustard Trump Supporter Double Fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32863514)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: Galvanic Mustard Trump Supporter Double Fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32864062)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: Galvanic Mustard Trump Supporter Double Fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865145)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: Passionate Pearly Nursing Home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865235)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:23 PM
Author: Galvanic Mustard Trump Supporter Double Fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868476)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: Glassy adulterous space

tmf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868488)



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Date: March 22nd, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: Galvanic Mustard Trump Supporter Double Fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32890290)



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Date: April 14th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: Galvanic Mustard Trump Supporter Double Fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33070179)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: Galvanic Mustard Trump Supporter Double Fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181541)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:53 PM
Author: curious hot business firm

Most college grads don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181585)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: Galvanic Mustard Trump Supporter Double Fault

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181727)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: curious hot business firm

You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. The median college grad IQ is lower. QED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181738)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: bonkers cuckold

read this as "logic of the contraceptive"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181634)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: charismatic sandwich

As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly enough when you explain it to them. They are DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181742)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: Brass goal in life friendly grandma

Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181755)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: Galvanic Mustard Trump Supporter Double Fault

but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract situations?

how did they do on those grouping games with chains of conditional statements?

also describe the DEVASTATION

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181773)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: henna beady-eyed university therapy

first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than average college students if you are an lsat instructor.

second, you didn't say how many got it before you explained it

third, i'd like to hear more about your n vs s stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181802)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: sinister cruise ship

(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359479)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: sinister cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359469)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: Galvanic Mustard Trump Supporter Double Fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181919)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:06 AM
Author: Galvanic Mustard Trump Supporter Double Fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182675)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:20 AM
Author: Galvanic Mustard Trump Supporter Double Fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182732)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: Galvanic Mustard Trump Supporter Double Fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33183130)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 2:18 PM
Author: Galvanic Mustard Trump Supporter Double Fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33185399)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: Galvanic Mustard Trump Supporter Double Fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359387)



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Date: June 15th, 2017 8:39 PM
Author: Galvanic Mustard Trump Supporter Double Fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33568398)