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Are there college-educated people who don't get the logic of the contrapositive?

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aromatic turquoise twinkling uncleanness doctorate
  03/18/17
ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates
anal mind-boggling university
  03/18/17
probably like 80%
brilliant shrine
  03/18/17
That must be an exaggeration
aromatic turquoise twinkling uncleanness doctorate
  03/18/17
you greatly overestimate college graduates
anal mind-boggling university
  03/18/17
I've literally taught them. they don't know shit
brilliant shrine
  03/18/17
can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to t...
Stirring Digit Ratio Mad-dog Skullcap
  03/18/17
they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. bu...
brilliant shrine
  03/18/17
They are generally more confused by the equivalency between ...
snowy kitchen clown
  03/18/17
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aromatic turquoise twinkling uncleanness doctorate
  03/18/17
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aromatic turquoise twinkling uncleanness doctorate
  03/18/17
tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chan...
flesh angry theater faggotry
  03/18/17
What do you mean by "get it"?
Twisted Gaping Point
  03/18/17
That it's logically valid.
Claret crackhouse mediation
  03/18/17
You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional state...
Twisted Gaping Point
  03/18/17
don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's ...
bearded chrome alpha
  03/18/17
either not get it when explained or do get it when explained...
Stirring Digit Ratio Mad-dog Skullcap
  03/18/17
what's that?
Orchid Doobsian Location
  03/18/17
Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get...
High-end amethyst party of the first part
  03/18/17
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Stirring Digit Ratio Mad-dog Skullcap
  03/19/17
tmf
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Stirring Digit Ratio Mad-dog Skullcap
  04/27/17
Most college grads don't.
Fragrant splenetic community account home
  04/27/17
explain
Stirring Digit Ratio Mad-dog Skullcap
  04/28/17
You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. ...
Fragrant splenetic community account home
  04/28/17
read this as "logic of the contraceptive"
bossy native karate
  04/27/17
As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly en...
hot demanding place of business church building
  04/28/17
Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.
carnelian space corn cake
  04/28/17
but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract ...
Stirring Digit Ratio Mad-dog Skullcap
  04/28/17
first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than aver...
filthy dead national
  04/28/17
(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)
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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: aromatic turquoise twinkling uncleanness doctorate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860235)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: anal mind-boggling university

ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860237)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: brilliant shrine

probably like 80%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860246)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: aromatic turquoise twinkling uncleanness doctorate

That must be an exaggeration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860271)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: anal mind-boggling university

you greatly overestimate college graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860274)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:20 PM
Author: brilliant shrine

I've literally taught them. they don't know shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860432)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:01 PM
Author: Stirring Digit Ratio Mad-dog Skullcap

can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to them? what issue do they have with the logic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860674)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: brilliant shrine

they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. but if it comes up in the wild, forget about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861332)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: snowy kitchen clown

They are generally more confused by the equivalency between converse and inverse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860254)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: aromatic turquoise twinkling uncleanness doctorate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860425)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: aromatic turquoise twinkling uncleanness doctorate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860937)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:59 PM
Author: flesh angry theater faggotry

tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chant when I taught it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861064)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: Twisted Gaping Point

What do you mean by "get it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861081)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:05 PM
Author: Claret crackhouse mediation

That it's logically valid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861108)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: Twisted Gaping Point

You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional statement is always true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861116)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: bearded chrome alpha

don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's explained? or like they come out of college, graduating and aren't familiar with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861123)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: Stirring Digit Ratio Mad-dog Skullcap

either not get it when explained or do get it when explained, but not able to apply it to statements whose logic does not correlate to any real-life situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861648)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:06 PM
Author: Orchid Doobsian Location

what's that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861443)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: High-end amethyst party of the first part

Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get college degrees, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861460)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: Stirring Digit Ratio Mad-dog Skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32863514)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: Stirring Digit Ratio Mad-dog Skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32864062)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: Stirring Digit Ratio Mad-dog Skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865145)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: Lemon arrogant kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865235)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:23 PM
Author: Stirring Digit Ratio Mad-dog Skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868476)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: dashing vermilion striped hyena hell

tmf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868488)



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Date: March 22nd, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: Stirring Digit Ratio Mad-dog Skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32890290)



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Date: April 14th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: Stirring Digit Ratio Mad-dog Skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33070179)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: Stirring Digit Ratio Mad-dog Skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181541)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:53 PM
Author: Fragrant splenetic community account home

Most college grads don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181585)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: Stirring Digit Ratio Mad-dog Skullcap

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181727)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Fragrant splenetic community account home

You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. The median college grad IQ is lower. QED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181738)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: bossy native karate

read this as "logic of the contraceptive"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181634)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: hot demanding place of business church building

As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly enough when you explain it to them. They are DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181742)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: carnelian space corn cake

Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181755)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: Stirring Digit Ratio Mad-dog Skullcap

but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract situations?

how did they do on those grouping games with chains of conditional statements?

also describe the DEVASTATION

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181773)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: filthy dead national

first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than average college students if you are an lsat instructor.

second, you didn't say how many got it before you explained it

third, i'd like to hear more about your n vs s stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181802)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: rusted spectacular set love of her life

(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359479)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: rusted spectacular set love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359469)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: Stirring Digit Ratio Mad-dog Skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181919)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:06 AM
Author: Stirring Digit Ratio Mad-dog Skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182675)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:20 AM
Author: Stirring Digit Ratio Mad-dog Skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182732)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: Stirring Digit Ratio Mad-dog Skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33183130)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 2:18 PM
Author: Stirring Digit Ratio Mad-dog Skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33185399)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: Stirring Digit Ratio Mad-dog Skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359387)



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Date: June 15th, 2017 8:39 PM
Author: Stirring Digit Ratio Mad-dog Skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33568398)