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Are there college-educated people who don't get the logic of the contrapositive?

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Fragrant son of senegal potus
  03/18/17
ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates
lake crawly range
  03/18/17
probably like 80%
azure irradiated telephone
  03/18/17
That must be an exaggeration
Fragrant son of senegal potus
  03/18/17
you greatly overestimate college graduates
lake crawly range
  03/18/17
I've literally taught them. they don't know shit
azure irradiated telephone
  03/18/17
can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to t...
Costumed Metal Ticket Booth Hissy Fit
  03/18/17
they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. bu...
azure irradiated telephone
  03/18/17
They are generally more confused by the equivalency between ...
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Fragrant son of senegal potus
  03/18/17
tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chan...
Laughsome step-uncle's house ape
  03/18/17
What do you mean by "get it"?
Ivory awkward travel guidebook
  03/18/17
That it's logically valid.
fuchsia french orchestra pit indirect expression
  03/18/17
You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional state...
Ivory awkward travel guidebook
  03/18/17
don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's ...
Saffron aromatic whorehouse dingle berry
  03/18/17
either not get it when explained or do get it when explained...
Costumed Metal Ticket Booth Hissy Fit
  03/18/17
what's that?
curious very tactful sex offender location
  03/18/17
Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get...
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tmf
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Costumed Metal Ticket Booth Hissy Fit
  04/27/17
Most college grads don't.
Thirsty deranged milk
  04/27/17
explain
Costumed Metal Ticket Booth Hissy Fit
  04/28/17
You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. ...
Thirsty deranged milk
  04/28/17
read this as "logic of the contraceptive"
At-the-ready diverse casino
  04/27/17
As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly en...
Histrionic Tank Fanboi
  04/28/17
Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.
Avocado Shrine Clown
  04/28/17
but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract ...
Costumed Metal Ticket Booth Hissy Fit
  04/28/17
first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than aver...
Gold cerebral office
  04/28/17
(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)
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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: Fragrant son of senegal potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860235)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: lake crawly range

ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860237)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: azure irradiated telephone

probably like 80%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860246)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: Fragrant son of senegal potus

That must be an exaggeration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860271)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: lake crawly range

you greatly overestimate college graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860274)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:20 PM
Author: azure irradiated telephone

I've literally taught them. they don't know shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860432)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:01 PM
Author: Costumed Metal Ticket Booth Hissy Fit

can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to them? what issue do they have with the logic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860674)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: azure irradiated telephone

they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. but if it comes up in the wild, forget about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861332)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: Lavender titillating tattoo

They are generally more confused by the equivalency between converse and inverse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860254)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: Fragrant son of senegal potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860425)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: Fragrant son of senegal potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860937)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:59 PM
Author: Laughsome step-uncle's house ape

tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chant when I taught it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861064)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: Ivory awkward travel guidebook

What do you mean by "get it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861081)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:05 PM
Author: fuchsia french orchestra pit indirect expression

That it's logically valid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861108)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: Ivory awkward travel guidebook

You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional statement is always true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861116)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: Saffron aromatic whorehouse dingle berry

don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's explained? or like they come out of college, graduating and aren't familiar with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861123)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: Costumed Metal Ticket Booth Hissy Fit

either not get it when explained or do get it when explained, but not able to apply it to statements whose logic does not correlate to any real-life situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861648)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:06 PM
Author: curious very tactful sex offender location

what's that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861443)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: multi-colored milky hell

Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get college degrees, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861460)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: Costumed Metal Ticket Booth Hissy Fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32863514)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: Costumed Metal Ticket Booth Hissy Fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32864062)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: Costumed Metal Ticket Booth Hissy Fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865145)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: Bearded haunted graveyard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865235)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:23 PM
Author: Costumed Metal Ticket Booth Hissy Fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868476)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: Cheese-eating high-end dysfunction

tmf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868488)



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Date: March 22nd, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: Costumed Metal Ticket Booth Hissy Fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32890290)



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Date: April 14th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: Costumed Metal Ticket Booth Hissy Fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33070179)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: Costumed Metal Ticket Booth Hissy Fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181541)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:53 PM
Author: Thirsty deranged milk

Most college grads don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181585)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: Costumed Metal Ticket Booth Hissy Fit

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181727)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Thirsty deranged milk

You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. The median college grad IQ is lower. QED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181738)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: At-the-ready diverse casino

read this as "logic of the contraceptive"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181634)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Histrionic Tank Fanboi

As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly enough when you explain it to them. They are DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181742)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: Avocado Shrine Clown

Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181755)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: Costumed Metal Ticket Booth Hissy Fit

but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract situations?

how did they do on those grouping games with chains of conditional statements?

also describe the DEVASTATION

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181773)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: Gold cerebral office

first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than average college students if you are an lsat instructor.

second, you didn't say how many got it before you explained it

third, i'd like to hear more about your n vs s stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181802)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: sable stirring useless brakes sandwich

(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359479)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: sable stirring useless brakes sandwich



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359469)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: Costumed Metal Ticket Booth Hissy Fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181919)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:06 AM
Author: Costumed Metal Ticket Booth Hissy Fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182675)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:20 AM
Author: Costumed Metal Ticket Booth Hissy Fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182732)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: Costumed Metal Ticket Booth Hissy Fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33183130)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 2:18 PM
Author: Costumed Metal Ticket Booth Hissy Fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33185399)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: Costumed Metal Ticket Booth Hissy Fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359387)



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Date: June 15th, 2017 8:39 PM
Author: Costumed Metal Ticket Booth Hissy Fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33568398)