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Are there college-educated people who don't get the logic of the contrapositive?

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vibrant point
  03/18/17
ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates
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  03/18/17
probably like 80%
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  03/18/17
That must be an exaggeration
vibrant point
  03/18/17
you greatly overestimate college graduates
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  03/18/17
I've literally taught them. they don't know shit
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  03/18/17
can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to t...
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  03/18/17
they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. bu...
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They are generally more confused by the equivalency between ...
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vibrant point
  03/18/17
tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chan...
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  03/18/17
What do you mean by "get it"?
Spectacular love of her life party of the first part
  03/18/17
That it's logically valid.
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  03/18/17
You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional state...
Spectacular love of her life party of the first part
  03/18/17
don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's ...
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  03/18/17
either not get it when explained or do get it when explained...
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what's that?
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Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get...
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Most college grads don't.
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  04/27/17
explain
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  04/28/17
You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. ...
khaki fragrant national gaping
  04/28/17
read this as "logic of the contraceptive"
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  04/27/17
As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly en...
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  04/28/17
Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.
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but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract ...
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first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than aver...
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  04/28/17
(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)
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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: vibrant point



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: odious primrose travel guidebook

ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860237)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: maize swashbuckling market

probably like 80%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860246)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: vibrant point

That must be an exaggeration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860271)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: odious primrose travel guidebook

you greatly overestimate college graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860274)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:20 PM
Author: maize swashbuckling market

I've literally taught them. they don't know shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860432)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:01 PM
Author: Submissive theater gay wizard

can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to them? what issue do they have with the logic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860674)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: maize swashbuckling market

they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. but if it comes up in the wild, forget about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861332)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: grizzly angry volcanic crater

They are generally more confused by the equivalency between converse and inverse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860254)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: vibrant point



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: vibrant point



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:59 PM
Author: twinkling fiercely-loyal dilemma

tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chant when I taught it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861064)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: Spectacular love of her life party of the first part

What do you mean by "get it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861081)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:05 PM
Author: Big internal respiration

That it's logically valid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861108)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: Spectacular love of her life party of the first part

You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional statement is always true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861116)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: appetizing flatulent home

don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's explained? or like they come out of college, graduating and aren't familiar with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861123)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: Submissive theater gay wizard

either not get it when explained or do get it when explained, but not able to apply it to statements whose logic does not correlate to any real-life situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861648)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:06 PM
Author: Mind-boggling bonkers sanctuary

what's that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861443)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: Lascivious turquoise juggernaut

Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get college degrees, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861460)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: Submissive theater gay wizard



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Date: March 19th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: Submissive theater gay wizard



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Date: March 19th, 2017 10:52 AM
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Date: March 19th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: slimy translucent jewess



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:23 PM
Author: Submissive theater gay wizard



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: Navy electric brethren university

tmf

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Date: March 22nd, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: Submissive theater gay wizard



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Date: April 14th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: Submissive theater gay wizard



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: Submissive theater gay wizard



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:53 PM
Author: khaki fragrant national gaping

Most college grads don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181585)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: Submissive theater gay wizard

explain

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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: khaki fragrant national gaping

You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. The median college grad IQ is lower. QED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181738)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: exhilarant blue international law enforcement agency shrine

read this as "logic of the contraceptive"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181634)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Unholy lavender french chef space

As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly enough when you explain it to them. They are DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181742)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: supple seedy kitchen

Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181755)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: Submissive theater gay wizard

but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract situations?

how did they do on those grouping games with chains of conditional statements?

also describe the DEVASTATION

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181773)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: puce marvelous center keepsake machete

first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than average college students if you are an lsat instructor.

second, you didn't say how many got it before you explained it

third, i'd like to hear more about your n vs s stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181802)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: Milky hall pozpig

(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359479)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: Milky hall pozpig



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:46 AM
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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:06 AM
Author: Submissive theater gay wizard



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:20 AM
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Date: April 28th, 2017 9:48 AM
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Date: April 28th, 2017 2:18 PM
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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
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