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Are there college-educated people who don't get the logic of the contrapositive?

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Vivacious tattoo
  03/18/17
ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates
ivory bearded locale
  03/18/17
probably like 80%
Carnelian Whorehouse Son Of Senegal
  03/18/17
That must be an exaggeration
Vivacious tattoo
  03/18/17
you greatly overestimate college graduates
ivory bearded locale
  03/18/17
I've literally taught them. they don't know shit
Carnelian Whorehouse Son Of Senegal
  03/18/17
can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to t...
Talented frum dilemma sound barrier
  03/18/17
they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. bu...
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  03/18/17
They are generally more confused by the equivalency between ...
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  03/18/17
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  03/18/17
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Vivacious tattoo
  03/18/17
tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chan...
titillating fighting chad pistol
  03/18/17
What do you mean by "get it"?
charcoal wrinkle
  03/18/17
That it's logically valid.
olive hateful theater messiness
  03/18/17
You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional state...
charcoal wrinkle
  03/18/17
don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's ...
exciting learning disabled state trust fund
  03/18/17
either not get it when explained or do get it when explained...
Talented frum dilemma sound barrier
  03/18/17
what's that?
Irradiated piazza
  03/18/17
Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get...
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Talented frum dilemma sound barrier
  04/27/17
Most college grads don't.
insanely creepy abode reading party
  04/27/17
explain
Talented frum dilemma sound barrier
  04/28/17
You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. ...
insanely creepy abode reading party
  04/28/17
read this as "logic of the contraceptive"
arrogant stirring turdskin
  04/27/17
As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly en...
Racy Pocket Flask
  04/28/17
Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.
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but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract ...
Talented frum dilemma sound barrier
  04/28/17
first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than aver...
flickering plaza double fault
  04/28/17
(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)
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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: Vivacious tattoo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860235)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: ivory bearded locale

ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860237)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: Carnelian Whorehouse Son Of Senegal

probably like 80%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860246)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: Vivacious tattoo

That must be an exaggeration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860271)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: ivory bearded locale

you greatly overestimate college graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860274)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:20 PM
Author: Carnelian Whorehouse Son Of Senegal

I've literally taught them. they don't know shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860432)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:01 PM
Author: Talented frum dilemma sound barrier

can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to them? what issue do they have with the logic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860674)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: Carnelian Whorehouse Son Of Senegal

they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. but if it comes up in the wild, forget about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861332)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: Marvelous sable roommate

They are generally more confused by the equivalency between converse and inverse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860254)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: Vivacious tattoo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860425)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: Vivacious tattoo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860937)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:59 PM
Author: titillating fighting chad pistol

tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chant when I taught it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861064)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: charcoal wrinkle

What do you mean by "get it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861081)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:05 PM
Author: olive hateful theater messiness

That it's logically valid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861108)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: charcoal wrinkle

You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional statement is always true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861116)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: exciting learning disabled state trust fund

don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's explained? or like they come out of college, graduating and aren't familiar with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861123)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: Talented frum dilemma sound barrier

either not get it when explained or do get it when explained, but not able to apply it to statements whose logic does not correlate to any real-life situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861648)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:06 PM
Author: Irradiated piazza

what's that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861443)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: Cowardly hospital bbw

Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get college degrees, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861460)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: Talented frum dilemma sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32863514)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: Talented frum dilemma sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32864062)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: Talented frum dilemma sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865145)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: Angry liquid oxygen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865235)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:23 PM
Author: Talented frum dilemma sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868476)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: Impertinent blathering genital piercing senate

tmf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868488)



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Date: March 22nd, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: Talented frum dilemma sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32890290)



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Date: April 14th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: Talented frum dilemma sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33070179)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: Talented frum dilemma sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181541)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:53 PM
Author: insanely creepy abode reading party

Most college grads don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181585)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: Talented frum dilemma sound barrier

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181727)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: insanely creepy abode reading party

You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. The median college grad IQ is lower. QED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181738)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: arrogant stirring turdskin

read this as "logic of the contraceptive"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181634)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Racy Pocket Flask

As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly enough when you explain it to them. They are DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181742)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: carmine awkward sex offender house

Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181755)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: Talented frum dilemma sound barrier

but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract situations?

how did they do on those grouping games with chains of conditional statements?

also describe the DEVASTATION

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181773)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: flickering plaza double fault

first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than average college students if you are an lsat instructor.

second, you didn't say how many got it before you explained it

third, i'd like to hear more about your n vs s stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181802)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle confused cruise ship goal in life

(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359479)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle confused cruise ship goal in life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359469)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: Talented frum dilemma sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181919)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:06 AM
Author: Talented frum dilemma sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182675)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:20 AM
Author: Talented frum dilemma sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182732)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: Talented frum dilemma sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33183130)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 2:18 PM
Author: Talented frum dilemma sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33185399)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: Talented frum dilemma sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359387)



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Date: June 15th, 2017 8:39 PM
Author: Talented frum dilemma sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33568398)