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Are there college-educated people who don't get the logic of the contrapositive?

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sooty cowardly point
  03/18/17
ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates
White appetizing love of her life
  03/18/17
probably like 80%
massive haunting genital piercing
  03/18/17
That must be an exaggeration
sooty cowardly point
  03/18/17
you greatly overestimate college graduates
White appetizing love of her life
  03/18/17
I've literally taught them. they don't know shit
massive haunting genital piercing
  03/18/17
can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to t...
Emerald Fantasy-prone Resort Puppy
  03/18/17
they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. bu...
massive haunting genital piercing
  03/18/17
They are generally more confused by the equivalency between ...
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sooty cowardly point
  03/18/17
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sooty cowardly point
  03/18/17
tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chan...
Obsidian Becky
  03/18/17
What do you mean by "get it"?
Deranged thriller library foreskin
  03/18/17
That it's logically valid.
Filthy Church
  03/18/17
You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional state...
Deranged thriller library foreskin
  03/18/17
don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's ...
Cheese-eating soul-stirring ladyboy
  03/18/17
either not get it when explained or do get it when explained...
Emerald Fantasy-prone Resort Puppy
  03/18/17
what's that?
concupiscible low-t step-uncle's house
  03/18/17
Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get...
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Emerald Fantasy-prone Resort Puppy
  04/27/17
Most college grads don't.
shimmering background story
  04/27/17
explain
Emerald Fantasy-prone Resort Puppy
  04/28/17
You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. ...
shimmering background story
  04/28/17
read this as "logic of the contraceptive"
drab anal house potus
  04/27/17
As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly en...
pea-brained lascivious roommate
  04/28/17
Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.
adventurous preventive strike digit ratio
  04/28/17
but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract ...
Emerald Fantasy-prone Resort Puppy
  04/28/17
first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than aver...
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  04/28/17
(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)
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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: sooty cowardly point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860235)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: White appetizing love of her life

ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860237)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: massive haunting genital piercing

probably like 80%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860246)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: sooty cowardly point

That must be an exaggeration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860271)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: White appetizing love of her life

you greatly overestimate college graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860274)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:20 PM
Author: massive haunting genital piercing

I've literally taught them. they don't know shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860432)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:01 PM
Author: Emerald Fantasy-prone Resort Puppy

can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to them? what issue do they have with the logic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860674)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: massive haunting genital piercing

they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. but if it comes up in the wild, forget about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861332)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: Territorial Tank Boiling Water

They are generally more confused by the equivalency between converse and inverse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860254)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: sooty cowardly point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860425)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: sooty cowardly point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860937)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:59 PM
Author: Obsidian Becky

tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chant when I taught it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861064)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: Deranged thriller library foreskin

What do you mean by "get it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861081)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:05 PM
Author: Filthy Church

That it's logically valid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861108)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: Deranged thriller library foreskin

You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional statement is always true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861116)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: Cheese-eating soul-stirring ladyboy

don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's explained? or like they come out of college, graduating and aren't familiar with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861123)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: Emerald Fantasy-prone Resort Puppy

either not get it when explained or do get it when explained, but not able to apply it to statements whose logic does not correlate to any real-life situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861648)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:06 PM
Author: concupiscible low-t step-uncle's house

what's that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861443)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: Jet razzmatazz senate

Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get college degrees, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861460)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: Emerald Fantasy-prone Resort Puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32863514)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: Emerald Fantasy-prone Resort Puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32864062)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: Emerald Fantasy-prone Resort Puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865145)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: Kink-friendly pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865235)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:23 PM
Author: Emerald Fantasy-prone Resort Puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868476)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: Pearly supple theater

tmf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868488)



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Date: March 22nd, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: Emerald Fantasy-prone Resort Puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32890290)



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Date: April 14th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: Emerald Fantasy-prone Resort Puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33070179)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: Emerald Fantasy-prone Resort Puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181541)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:53 PM
Author: shimmering background story

Most college grads don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181585)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: Emerald Fantasy-prone Resort Puppy

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181727)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: shimmering background story

You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. The median college grad IQ is lower. QED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181738)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: drab anal house potus

read this as "logic of the contraceptive"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181634)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: pea-brained lascivious roommate

As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly enough when you explain it to them. They are DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181742)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: adventurous preventive strike digit ratio

Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181755)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: Emerald Fantasy-prone Resort Puppy

but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract situations?

how did they do on those grouping games with chains of conditional statements?

also describe the DEVASTATION

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181773)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: charismatic useless antidepressant drug tanning salon

first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than average college students if you are an lsat instructor.

second, you didn't say how many got it before you explained it

third, i'd like to hear more about your n vs s stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181802)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: talented turquoise feces athletic conference

(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359479)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: talented turquoise feces athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359469)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: Emerald Fantasy-prone Resort Puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181919)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:06 AM
Author: Emerald Fantasy-prone Resort Puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182675)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:20 AM
Author: Emerald Fantasy-prone Resort Puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182732)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: Emerald Fantasy-prone Resort Puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33183130)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 2:18 PM
Author: Emerald Fantasy-prone Resort Puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33185399)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: Emerald Fantasy-prone Resort Puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359387)



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Date: June 15th, 2017 8:39 PM
Author: Emerald Fantasy-prone Resort Puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33568398)