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Are there college-educated people who don't get the logic of the contrapositive?

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olive multi-colored range
  03/18/17
ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates
unhinged chocolate step-uncle's house fanboi
  03/18/17
probably like 80%
yapping dingle berry
  03/18/17
That must be an exaggeration
olive multi-colored range
  03/18/17
you greatly overestimate college graduates
unhinged chocolate step-uncle's house fanboi
  03/18/17
I've literally taught them. they don't know shit
yapping dingle berry
  03/18/17
can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to t...
cracking learning disabled hell love of her life
  03/18/17
they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. bu...
yapping dingle berry
  03/18/17
They are generally more confused by the equivalency between ...
self-centered new version
  03/18/17
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olive multi-colored range
  03/18/17
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olive multi-colored range
  03/18/17
tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chan...
Beta Glittery Friendly Grandma
  03/18/17
What do you mean by "get it"?
laughsome cerise station marketing idea
  03/18/17
That it's logically valid.
Translucent reading party plaza
  03/18/17
You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional state...
laughsome cerise station marketing idea
  03/18/17
don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's ...
shaky tan hall queen of the night
  03/18/17
either not get it when explained or do get it when explained...
cracking learning disabled hell love of her life
  03/18/17
what's that?
plum international law enforcement agency
  03/18/17
Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get...
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cracking learning disabled hell love of her life
  04/27/17
Most college grads don't.
Light Rigor Jew
  04/27/17
explain
cracking learning disabled hell love of her life
  04/28/17
You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. ...
Light Rigor Jew
  04/28/17
read this as "logic of the contraceptive"
Arrogant bronze immigrant
  04/27/17
As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly en...
lascivious mentally impaired goal in life clown
  04/28/17
Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.
Exciting mahogany idea he suggested azn
  04/28/17
but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract ...
cracking learning disabled hell love of her life
  04/28/17
first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than aver...
Brilliant cerebral location
  04/28/17
(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)
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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: olive multi-colored range



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: unhinged chocolate step-uncle's house fanboi

ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860237)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: yapping dingle berry

probably like 80%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860246)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: olive multi-colored range

That must be an exaggeration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860271)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: unhinged chocolate step-uncle's house fanboi

you greatly overestimate college graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860274)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:20 PM
Author: yapping dingle berry

I've literally taught them. they don't know shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860432)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:01 PM
Author: cracking learning disabled hell love of her life

can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to them? what issue do they have with the logic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860674)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: yapping dingle berry

they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. but if it comes up in the wild, forget about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861332)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: self-centered new version

They are generally more confused by the equivalency between converse and inverse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860254)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: olive multi-colored range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860425)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: olive multi-colored range



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:59 PM
Author: Beta Glittery Friendly Grandma

tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chant when I taught it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861064)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: laughsome cerise station marketing idea

What do you mean by "get it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861081)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:05 PM
Author: Translucent reading party plaza

That it's logically valid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861108)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: laughsome cerise station marketing idea

You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional statement is always true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861116)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: shaky tan hall queen of the night

don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's explained? or like they come out of college, graduating and aren't familiar with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861123)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: cracking learning disabled hell love of her life

either not get it when explained or do get it when explained, but not able to apply it to statements whose logic does not correlate to any real-life situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861648)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:06 PM
Author: plum international law enforcement agency

what's that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861443)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: Iridescent roommate newt

Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get college degrees, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861460)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: cracking learning disabled hell love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32863514)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: cracking learning disabled hell love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32864062)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: cracking learning disabled hell love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865145)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: Chestnut Trailer Park Windowlicker



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:23 PM
Author: cracking learning disabled hell love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868476)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: big flushed site

tmf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868488)



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Date: March 22nd, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: cracking learning disabled hell love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32890290)



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Date: April 14th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: cracking learning disabled hell love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33070179)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: cracking learning disabled hell love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181541)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:53 PM
Author: Light Rigor Jew

Most college grads don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181585)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: cracking learning disabled hell love of her life

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181727)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Light Rigor Jew

You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. The median college grad IQ is lower. QED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181738)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: Arrogant bronze immigrant

read this as "logic of the contraceptive"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181634)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: lascivious mentally impaired goal in life clown

As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly enough when you explain it to them. They are DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181742)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: Exciting mahogany idea he suggested azn

Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181755)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: cracking learning disabled hell love of her life

but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract situations?

how did they do on those grouping games with chains of conditional statements?

also describe the DEVASTATION

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181773)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: Brilliant cerebral location

first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than average college students if you are an lsat instructor.

second, you didn't say how many got it before you explained it

third, i'd like to hear more about your n vs s stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181802)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: Drab Odious Public Bath Lettuce

(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359479)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: Drab Odious Public Bath Lettuce



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359469)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: cracking learning disabled hell love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181919)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:06 AM
Author: cracking learning disabled hell love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182675)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:20 AM
Author: cracking learning disabled hell love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182732)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: cracking learning disabled hell love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33183130)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 2:18 PM
Author: cracking learning disabled hell love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33185399)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: cracking learning disabled hell love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359387)



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Date: June 15th, 2017 8:39 PM
Author: cracking learning disabled hell love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33568398)