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Are there college-educated people who don't get the logic of the contrapositive?

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galvanic honey-headed theater
  03/18/17
ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates
mind-boggling lodge
  03/18/17
probably like 80%
Canary Hideous Brunch
  03/18/17
That must be an exaggeration
galvanic honey-headed theater
  03/18/17
you greatly overestimate college graduates
mind-boggling lodge
  03/18/17
I've literally taught them. they don't know shit
Canary Hideous Brunch
  03/18/17
can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to t...
sinister marvelous theater stage ladyboy
  03/18/17
they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. bu...
Canary Hideous Brunch
  03/18/17
They are generally more confused by the equivalency between ...
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galvanic honey-headed theater
  03/18/17
tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chan...
Maroon provocative dingle berry
  03/18/17
What do you mean by "get it"?
Maize unhinged cruise ship stain
  03/18/17
That it's logically valid.
adventurous senate pocket flask
  03/18/17
You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional state...
Maize unhinged cruise ship stain
  03/18/17
don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's ...
swashbuckling sapphire field
  03/18/17
either not get it when explained or do get it when explained...
sinister marvelous theater stage ladyboy
  03/18/17
what's that?
underhanded indigo friendly grandma
  03/18/17
Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get...
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tmf
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sinister marvelous theater stage ladyboy
  04/27/17
Most college grads don't.
Godawful center
  04/27/17
explain
sinister marvelous theater stage ladyboy
  04/28/17
You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. ...
Godawful center
  04/28/17
read this as "logic of the contraceptive"
Pearl laughsome messiness ratface
  04/27/17
As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly en...
Anal bistre striped hyena
  04/28/17
Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.
Multi-colored piazza
  04/28/17
but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract ...
sinister marvelous theater stage ladyboy
  04/28/17
first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than aver...
Mischievous Passionate Dragon
  04/28/17
(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)
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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: galvanic honey-headed theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860235)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: mind-boggling lodge

ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860237)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: Canary Hideous Brunch

probably like 80%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860246)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: galvanic honey-headed theater

That must be an exaggeration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860271)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: mind-boggling lodge

you greatly overestimate college graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860274)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:20 PM
Author: Canary Hideous Brunch

I've literally taught them. they don't know shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860432)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:01 PM
Author: sinister marvelous theater stage ladyboy

can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to them? what issue do they have with the logic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860674)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: Canary Hideous Brunch

they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. but if it comes up in the wild, forget about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861332)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: Tantric organic girlfriend dilemma

They are generally more confused by the equivalency between converse and inverse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860254)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: galvanic honey-headed theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860425)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: galvanic honey-headed theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860937)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:59 PM
Author: Maroon provocative dingle berry

tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chant when I taught it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861064)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: Maize unhinged cruise ship stain

What do you mean by "get it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861081)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:05 PM
Author: adventurous senate pocket flask

That it's logically valid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861108)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: Maize unhinged cruise ship stain

You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional statement is always true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861116)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: swashbuckling sapphire field

don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's explained? or like they come out of college, graduating and aren't familiar with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861123)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: sinister marvelous theater stage ladyboy

either not get it when explained or do get it when explained, but not able to apply it to statements whose logic does not correlate to any real-life situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861648)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:06 PM
Author: underhanded indigo friendly grandma

what's that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861443)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: glittery school cafeteria

Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get college degrees, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861460)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: sinister marvelous theater stage ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32863514)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: sinister marvelous theater stage ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32864062)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: sinister marvelous theater stage ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865145)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: Trip Juggernaut Knife



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865235)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:23 PM
Author: sinister marvelous theater stage ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868476)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: metal casino

tmf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868488)



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Date: March 22nd, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: sinister marvelous theater stage ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32890290)



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Date: April 14th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: sinister marvelous theater stage ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33070179)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: sinister marvelous theater stage ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181541)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:53 PM
Author: Godawful center

Most college grads don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181585)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: sinister marvelous theater stage ladyboy

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181727)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Godawful center

You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. The median college grad IQ is lower. QED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181738)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: Pearl laughsome messiness ratface

read this as "logic of the contraceptive"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181634)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Anal bistre striped hyena

As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly enough when you explain it to them. They are DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181742)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: Multi-colored piazza

Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181755)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: sinister marvelous theater stage ladyboy

but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract situations?

how did they do on those grouping games with chains of conditional statements?

also describe the DEVASTATION

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181773)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: Mischievous Passionate Dragon

first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than average college students if you are an lsat instructor.

second, you didn't say how many got it before you explained it

third, i'd like to hear more about your n vs s stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181802)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: Cowardly Smoky Spot

(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359479)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: Cowardly Smoky Spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359469)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: sinister marvelous theater stage ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181919)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:06 AM
Author: sinister marvelous theater stage ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182675)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:20 AM
Author: sinister marvelous theater stage ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182732)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: sinister marvelous theater stage ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33183130)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 2:18 PM
Author: sinister marvelous theater stage ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33185399)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: sinister marvelous theater stage ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359387)



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Date: June 15th, 2017 8:39 PM
Author: sinister marvelous theater stage ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33568398)