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Are there college-educated people who don't get the logic of the contrapositive?

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Opaque Ungodly Bbw Point
  03/18/17
ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates
insecure house-broken tattoo crackhouse
  03/18/17
probably like 80%
Rose hyperventilating idea he suggested
  03/18/17
That must be an exaggeration
Opaque Ungodly Bbw Point
  03/18/17
you greatly overestimate college graduates
insecure house-broken tattoo crackhouse
  03/18/17
I've literally taught them. they don't know shit
Rose hyperventilating idea he suggested
  03/18/17
can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to t...
Comical mental disorder
  03/18/17
they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. bu...
Rose hyperventilating idea he suggested
  03/18/17
They are generally more confused by the equivalency between ...
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Opaque Ungodly Bbw Point
  03/18/17
tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chan...
copper turdskin death wish
  03/18/17
What do you mean by "get it"?
Excitant pearly mood property
  03/18/17
That it's logically valid.
Mind-boggling Olive Spot
  03/18/17
You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional state...
Excitant pearly mood property
  03/18/17
don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's ...
Slimy box office yarmulke
  03/18/17
either not get it when explained or do get it when explained...
Comical mental disorder
  03/18/17
what's that?
Ebony low-t range ceo
  03/18/17
Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get...
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tmf
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Comical mental disorder
  04/27/17
Most college grads don't.
Saffron temple
  04/27/17
explain
Comical mental disorder
  04/28/17
You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. ...
Saffron temple
  04/28/17
read this as "logic of the contraceptive"
Poppy Meetinghouse
  04/27/17
As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly en...
claret soul-stirring boistinker hell
  04/28/17
Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.
Tan step-uncle's house
  04/28/17
but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract ...
Comical mental disorder
  04/28/17
first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than aver...
know-it-all laughsome church son of senegal
  04/28/17
(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)
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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: Opaque Ungodly Bbw Point



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: insecure house-broken tattoo crackhouse

ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860237)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: Rose hyperventilating idea he suggested

probably like 80%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860246)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: Opaque Ungodly Bbw Point

That must be an exaggeration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860271)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: insecure house-broken tattoo crackhouse

you greatly overestimate college graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860274)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:20 PM
Author: Rose hyperventilating idea he suggested

I've literally taught them. they don't know shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860432)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:01 PM
Author: Comical mental disorder

can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to them? what issue do they have with the logic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860674)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: Rose hyperventilating idea he suggested

they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. but if it comes up in the wild, forget about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861332)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: electric medicated theatre

They are generally more confused by the equivalency between converse and inverse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860254)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: Opaque Ungodly Bbw Point



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: Opaque Ungodly Bbw Point



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:59 PM
Author: copper turdskin death wish

tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chant when I taught it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861064)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: Excitant pearly mood property

What do you mean by "get it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861081)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:05 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Olive Spot

That it's logically valid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861108)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: Excitant pearly mood property

You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional statement is always true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861116)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: Slimy box office yarmulke

don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's explained? or like they come out of college, graduating and aren't familiar with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861123)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: Comical mental disorder

either not get it when explained or do get it when explained, but not able to apply it to statements whose logic does not correlate to any real-life situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861648)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:06 PM
Author: Ebony low-t range ceo

what's that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861443)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: Disgusting cerebral multi-billionaire office

Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get college degrees, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861460)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: Comical mental disorder



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32863514)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: Comical mental disorder



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32864062)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: Comical mental disorder



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865145)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: Brilliant den



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:23 PM
Author: Comical mental disorder



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: nudist dark theater stage mad-dog skullcap

tmf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868488)



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Date: March 22nd, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: Comical mental disorder



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Date: April 14th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: Comical mental disorder



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: Comical mental disorder



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181541)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:53 PM
Author: Saffron temple

Most college grads don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181585)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: Comical mental disorder

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181727)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Saffron temple

You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. The median college grad IQ is lower. QED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181738)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: Poppy Meetinghouse

read this as "logic of the contraceptive"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181634)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: claret soul-stirring boistinker hell

As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly enough when you explain it to them. They are DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181742)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: Tan step-uncle's house

Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181755)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: Comical mental disorder

but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract situations?

how did they do on those grouping games with chains of conditional statements?

also describe the DEVASTATION

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181773)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: know-it-all laughsome church son of senegal

first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than average college students if you are an lsat instructor.

second, you didn't say how many got it before you explained it

third, i'd like to hear more about your n vs s stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181802)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: Infuriating hissy fit stead

(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359479)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: Infuriating hissy fit stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359469)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: Comical mental disorder



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181919)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:06 AM
Author: Comical mental disorder



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182675)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:20 AM
Author: Comical mental disorder



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182732)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: Comical mental disorder



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33183130)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 2:18 PM
Author: Comical mental disorder



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33185399)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: Comical mental disorder



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359387)



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Date: June 15th, 2017 8:39 PM
Author: Comical mental disorder



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33568398)