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Are there college-educated people who don't get the logic of the contrapositive?

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Citrine Passionate Double Fault
  03/18/17
ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates
Charcoal Goyim House
  03/18/17
probably like 80%
Puce well-lubricated sweet tailpipe parlor
  03/18/17
That must be an exaggeration
Citrine Passionate Double Fault
  03/18/17
you greatly overestimate college graduates
Charcoal Goyim House
  03/18/17
I've literally taught them. they don't know shit
Puce well-lubricated sweet tailpipe parlor
  03/18/17
can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to t...
Crawly seedy fanboi kitty
  03/18/17
they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. bu...
Puce well-lubricated sweet tailpipe parlor
  03/18/17
They are generally more confused by the equivalency between ...
pearl business firm pistol
  03/18/17
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Citrine Passionate Double Fault
  03/18/17
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Citrine Passionate Double Fault
  03/18/17
tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chan...
razzmatazz elite halford
  03/18/17
What do you mean by "get it"?
wonderful personal credit line
  03/18/17
That it's logically valid.
topaz azn
  03/18/17
You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional state...
wonderful personal credit line
  03/18/17
don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's ...
Stirring state dysfunction
  03/18/17
either not get it when explained or do get it when explained...
Crawly seedy fanboi kitty
  03/18/17
what's that?
duck-like step-uncle's house mood
  03/18/17
Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get...
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Infuriating Tantric Alpha Point
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Crawly seedy fanboi kitty
  03/19/17
tmf
Appetizing dragon
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Crawly seedy fanboi kitty
  04/27/17
Most college grads don't.
histrionic mother athletic conference
  04/27/17
explain
Crawly seedy fanboi kitty
  04/28/17
You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. ...
histrionic mother athletic conference
  04/28/17
read this as "logic of the contraceptive"
Milky menage filthpig
  04/27/17
As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly en...
Exciting persian
  04/28/17
Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.
Razzle-dazzle Know-it-all Garrison
  04/28/17
but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract ...
Crawly seedy fanboi kitty
  04/28/17
first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than aver...
Frisky odious hospital nibblets
  04/28/17
(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)
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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: Citrine Passionate Double Fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860235)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: Charcoal Goyim House

ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860237)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: Puce well-lubricated sweet tailpipe parlor

probably like 80%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860246)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: Citrine Passionate Double Fault

That must be an exaggeration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860271)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: Charcoal Goyim House

you greatly overestimate college graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860274)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:20 PM
Author: Puce well-lubricated sweet tailpipe parlor

I've literally taught them. they don't know shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860432)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:01 PM
Author: Crawly seedy fanboi kitty

can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to them? what issue do they have with the logic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860674)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: Puce well-lubricated sweet tailpipe parlor

they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. but if it comes up in the wild, forget about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861332)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: pearl business firm pistol

They are generally more confused by the equivalency between converse and inverse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860254)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: Citrine Passionate Double Fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860425)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: Citrine Passionate Double Fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860937)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:59 PM
Author: razzmatazz elite halford

tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chant when I taught it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861064)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: wonderful personal credit line

What do you mean by "get it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861081)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:05 PM
Author: topaz azn

That it's logically valid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861108)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: wonderful personal credit line

You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional statement is always true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861116)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: Stirring state dysfunction

don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's explained? or like they come out of college, graduating and aren't familiar with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861123)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: Crawly seedy fanboi kitty

either not get it when explained or do get it when explained, but not able to apply it to statements whose logic does not correlate to any real-life situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861648)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:06 PM
Author: duck-like step-uncle's house mood

what's that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861443)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: aggressive stimulating candlestick maker

Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get college degrees, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861460)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: Crawly seedy fanboi kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32863514)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: Crawly seedy fanboi kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32864062)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: Crawly seedy fanboi kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865145)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: Infuriating Tantric Alpha Point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865235)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:23 PM
Author: Crawly seedy fanboi kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868476)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: Appetizing dragon

tmf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868488)



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Date: March 22nd, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: Crawly seedy fanboi kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32890290)



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Date: April 14th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: Crawly seedy fanboi kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33070179)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: Crawly seedy fanboi kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181541)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:53 PM
Author: histrionic mother athletic conference

Most college grads don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181585)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: Crawly seedy fanboi kitty

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181727)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: histrionic mother athletic conference

You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. The median college grad IQ is lower. QED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181738)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: Milky menage filthpig

read this as "logic of the contraceptive"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181634)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Exciting persian

As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly enough when you explain it to them. They are DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181742)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Know-it-all Garrison

Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181755)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: Crawly seedy fanboi kitty

but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract situations?

how did they do on those grouping games with chains of conditional statements?

also describe the DEVASTATION

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181773)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: Frisky odious hospital nibblets

first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than average college students if you are an lsat instructor.

second, you didn't say how many got it before you explained it

third, i'd like to hear more about your n vs s stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181802)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: Adventurous Lilac Hissy Fit

(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359479)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: Adventurous Lilac Hissy Fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359469)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: Crawly seedy fanboi kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181919)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:06 AM
Author: Crawly seedy fanboi kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182675)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:20 AM
Author: Crawly seedy fanboi kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182732)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: Crawly seedy fanboi kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33183130)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 2:18 PM
Author: Crawly seedy fanboi kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33185399)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: Crawly seedy fanboi kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359387)



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Date: June 15th, 2017 8:39 PM
Author: Crawly seedy fanboi kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33568398)