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Are there college-educated people who don't get the logic of the contrapositive?

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provocative library weed whacker
  03/18/17
ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates
Fiercely-loyal box office foreskin
  03/18/17
probably like 80%
Aphrodisiac rambunctious party of the first part
  03/18/17
That must be an exaggeration
provocative library weed whacker
  03/18/17
you greatly overestimate college graduates
Fiercely-loyal box office foreskin
  03/18/17
I've literally taught them. they don't know shit
Aphrodisiac rambunctious party of the first part
  03/18/17
can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to t...
Bespoke kitchen affirmative action
  03/18/17
they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. bu...
Aphrodisiac rambunctious party of the first part
  03/18/17
They are generally more confused by the equivalency between ...
Irradiated slippery tank
  03/18/17
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provocative library weed whacker
  03/18/17
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provocative library weed whacker
  03/18/17
tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chan...
comical impressive mood
  03/18/17
What do you mean by "get it"?
pea-brained buff spot travel guidebook
  03/18/17
That it's logically valid.
spruce mischievous hospital messiness
  03/18/17
You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional state...
pea-brained buff spot travel guidebook
  03/18/17
don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's ...
Diverse Chartreuse Ratface Jew
  03/18/17
either not get it when explained or do get it when explained...
Bespoke kitchen affirmative action
  03/18/17
what's that?
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  03/18/17
Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get...
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  03/19/17
tmf
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Bespoke kitchen affirmative action
  04/27/17
Most college grads don't.
free-loading meetinghouse boiling water
  04/27/17
explain
Bespoke kitchen affirmative action
  04/28/17
You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. ...
free-loading meetinghouse boiling water
  04/28/17
read this as "logic of the contraceptive"
Mewling Fat Ankles
  04/27/17
As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly en...
cerise drunken reading party
  04/28/17
Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.
spectacular indigo round eye
  04/28/17
but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract ...
Bespoke kitchen affirmative action
  04/28/17
first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than aver...
Ruby Slimy Crackhouse Kitty
  04/28/17
(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)
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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: provocative library weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860235)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal box office foreskin

ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860237)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac rambunctious party of the first part

probably like 80%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860246)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: provocative library weed whacker

That must be an exaggeration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860271)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal box office foreskin

you greatly overestimate college graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860274)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:20 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac rambunctious party of the first part

I've literally taught them. they don't know shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860432)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:01 PM
Author: Bespoke kitchen affirmative action

can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to them? what issue do they have with the logic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860674)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac rambunctious party of the first part

they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. but if it comes up in the wild, forget about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861332)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: Irradiated slippery tank

They are generally more confused by the equivalency between converse and inverse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860254)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: provocative library weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860425)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: provocative library weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860937)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:59 PM
Author: comical impressive mood

tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chant when I taught it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861064)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: pea-brained buff spot travel guidebook

What do you mean by "get it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861081)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:05 PM
Author: spruce mischievous hospital messiness

That it's logically valid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861108)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: pea-brained buff spot travel guidebook

You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional statement is always true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861116)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: Diverse Chartreuse Ratface Jew

don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's explained? or like they come out of college, graduating and aren't familiar with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861123)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: Bespoke kitchen affirmative action

either not get it when explained or do get it when explained, but not able to apply it to statements whose logic does not correlate to any real-life situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861648)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:06 PM
Author: submissive cream address dog poop

what's that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861443)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: Effete Burgundy Theater Toilet Seat

Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get college degrees, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861460)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: Bespoke kitchen affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32863514)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: Bespoke kitchen affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32864062)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: Bespoke kitchen affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865145)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: Appetizing Saffron Garrison



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865235)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:23 PM
Author: Bespoke kitchen affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868476)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: Vigorous drab indian lodge potus

tmf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868488)



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Date: March 22nd, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: Bespoke kitchen affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32890290)



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Date: April 14th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: Bespoke kitchen affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33070179)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: Bespoke kitchen affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181541)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:53 PM
Author: free-loading meetinghouse boiling water

Most college grads don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181585)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: Bespoke kitchen affirmative action

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181727)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: free-loading meetinghouse boiling water

You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. The median college grad IQ is lower. QED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181738)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: Mewling Fat Ankles

read this as "logic of the contraceptive"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181634)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: cerise drunken reading party

As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly enough when you explain it to them. They are DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181742)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: spectacular indigo round eye

Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181755)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: Bespoke kitchen affirmative action

but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract situations?

how did they do on those grouping games with chains of conditional statements?

also describe the DEVASTATION

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181773)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: Ruby Slimy Crackhouse Kitty

first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than average college students if you are an lsat instructor.

second, you didn't say how many got it before you explained it

third, i'd like to hear more about your n vs s stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181802)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: Trip Stag Film Cuckold

(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359479)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: Trip Stag Film Cuckold



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359469)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: Bespoke kitchen affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181919)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:06 AM
Author: Bespoke kitchen affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182675)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:20 AM
Author: Bespoke kitchen affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182732)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: Bespoke kitchen affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33183130)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 2:18 PM
Author: Bespoke kitchen affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33185399)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: Bespoke kitchen affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359387)



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Date: June 15th, 2017 8:39 PM
Author: Bespoke kitchen affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33568398)