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Are there college-educated people who don't get the logic of the contrapositive?

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self-absorbed orange box office jew
  03/18/17
ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates
Doobsian Blathering Meetinghouse
  03/18/17
probably like 80%
zombie-like appetizing ticket booth
  03/18/17
That must be an exaggeration
self-absorbed orange box office jew
  03/18/17
you greatly overestimate college graduates
Doobsian Blathering Meetinghouse
  03/18/17
I've literally taught them. they don't know shit
zombie-like appetizing ticket booth
  03/18/17
can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to t...
mind-boggling mentally impaired police squad
  03/18/17
they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. bu...
zombie-like appetizing ticket booth
  03/18/17
They are generally more confused by the equivalency between ...
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self-absorbed orange box office jew
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self-absorbed orange box office jew
  03/18/17
tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chan...
Coiffed flickering queen of the night
  03/18/17
What do you mean by "get it"?
motley territorial twinkling uncleanness parlor
  03/18/17
That it's logically valid.
White chest-beating cuckold people who are hurt
  03/18/17
You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional state...
motley territorial twinkling uncleanness parlor
  03/18/17
don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's ...
Orchid diverse pit keepsake machete
  03/18/17
either not get it when explained or do get it when explained...
mind-boggling mentally impaired police squad
  03/18/17
what's that?
Pink plaza regret
  03/18/17
Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get...
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tmf
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mind-boggling mentally impaired police squad
  04/27/17
Most college grads don't.
Lilac Galvanic Boistinker Forum
  04/27/17
explain
mind-boggling mentally impaired police squad
  04/28/17
You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. ...
Lilac Galvanic Boistinker Forum
  04/28/17
read this as "logic of the contraceptive"
Sooty duck-like partner
  04/27/17
As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly en...
Scarlet comical piazza feces
  04/28/17
Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.
Unhinged Curious Stain Tanning Salon
  04/28/17
but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract ...
mind-boggling mentally impaired police squad
  04/28/17
first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than aver...
Sapphire idiot dragon
  04/28/17
(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)
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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: self-absorbed orange box office jew



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860235)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: Doobsian Blathering Meetinghouse

ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860237)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: zombie-like appetizing ticket booth

probably like 80%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860246)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: self-absorbed orange box office jew

That must be an exaggeration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860271)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: Doobsian Blathering Meetinghouse

you greatly overestimate college graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860274)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:20 PM
Author: zombie-like appetizing ticket booth

I've literally taught them. they don't know shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860432)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:01 PM
Author: mind-boggling mentally impaired police squad

can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to them? what issue do they have with the logic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860674)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: zombie-like appetizing ticket booth

they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. but if it comes up in the wild, forget about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861332)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: soul-stirring azure mad-dog skullcap abode

They are generally more confused by the equivalency between converse and inverse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860254)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: self-absorbed orange box office jew



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860425)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: self-absorbed orange box office jew



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860937)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:59 PM
Author: Coiffed flickering queen of the night

tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chant when I taught it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861064)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: motley territorial twinkling uncleanness parlor

What do you mean by "get it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861081)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:05 PM
Author: White chest-beating cuckold people who are hurt

That it's logically valid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861108)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: motley territorial twinkling uncleanness parlor

You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional statement is always true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861116)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: Orchid diverse pit keepsake machete

don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's explained? or like they come out of college, graduating and aren't familiar with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861123)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: mind-boggling mentally impaired police squad

either not get it when explained or do get it when explained, but not able to apply it to statements whose logic does not correlate to any real-life situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861648)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:06 PM
Author: Pink plaza regret

what's that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861443)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: Rusted indian lodge

Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get college degrees, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861460)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: mind-boggling mentally impaired police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32863514)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: mind-boggling mentally impaired police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32864062)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: mind-boggling mentally impaired police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865145)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: exciting twinkling ape station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865235)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:23 PM
Author: mind-boggling mentally impaired police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868476)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: claret stubborn kitchen mediation

tmf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868488)



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Date: March 22nd, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: mind-boggling mentally impaired police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32890290)



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Date: April 14th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: mind-boggling mentally impaired police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33070179)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: mind-boggling mentally impaired police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181541)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:53 PM
Author: Lilac Galvanic Boistinker Forum

Most college grads don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181585)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: mind-boggling mentally impaired police squad

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181727)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Lilac Galvanic Boistinker Forum

You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. The median college grad IQ is lower. QED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181738)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: Sooty duck-like partner

read this as "logic of the contraceptive"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181634)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Scarlet comical piazza feces

As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly enough when you explain it to them. They are DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181742)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: Unhinged Curious Stain Tanning Salon

Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181755)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: mind-boggling mentally impaired police squad

but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract situations?

how did they do on those grouping games with chains of conditional statements?

also describe the DEVASTATION

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181773)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: Sapphire idiot dragon

first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than average college students if you are an lsat instructor.

second, you didn't say how many got it before you explained it

third, i'd like to hear more about your n vs s stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181802)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: Grizzly Death Wish

(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359479)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: Grizzly Death Wish



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359469)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: mind-boggling mentally impaired police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181919)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:06 AM
Author: mind-boggling mentally impaired police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182675)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:20 AM
Author: mind-boggling mentally impaired police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182732)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: mind-boggling mentally impaired police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33183130)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 2:18 PM
Author: mind-boggling mentally impaired police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33185399)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: mind-boggling mentally impaired police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359387)



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Date: June 15th, 2017 8:39 PM
Author: mind-boggling mentally impaired police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33568398)