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Are there college-educated people who don't get the logic of the contrapositive?

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Exhilarant Very Tactful Range
  03/18/17
ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates
Aphrodisiac meetinghouse
  03/18/17
probably like 80%
rambunctious federal jap round eye
  03/18/17
That must be an exaggeration
Exhilarant Very Tactful Range
  03/18/17
you greatly overestimate college graduates
Aphrodisiac meetinghouse
  03/18/17
I've literally taught them. they don't know shit
rambunctious federal jap round eye
  03/18/17
can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to t...
Beady-eyed University Love Of Her Life
  03/18/17
they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. bu...
rambunctious federal jap round eye
  03/18/17
They are generally more confused by the equivalency between ...
chest-beating pervert
  03/18/17
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Exhilarant Very Tactful Range
  03/18/17
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Exhilarant Very Tactful Range
  03/18/17
tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chan...
thriller place of business headpube
  03/18/17
What do you mean by "get it"?
Stubborn dashing piazza azn
  03/18/17
That it's logically valid.
Fighting forum
  03/18/17
You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional state...
Stubborn dashing piazza azn
  03/18/17
don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's ...
passionate abusive jewess menage
  03/18/17
either not get it when explained or do get it when explained...
Beady-eyed University Love Of Her Life
  03/18/17
what's that?
Fear-inspiring mahogany associate
  03/18/17
Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get...
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Beady-eyed University Love Of Her Life
  03/19/17
tmf
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Beady-eyed University Love Of Her Life
  04/27/17
Most college grads don't.
razzle-dazzle queen of the night
  04/27/17
explain
Beady-eyed University Love Of Her Life
  04/28/17
You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. ...
razzle-dazzle queen of the night
  04/28/17
read this as "logic of the contraceptive"
up-to-no-good adulterous theatre fanboi
  04/27/17
As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly en...
comical clear double fault tanning salon
  04/28/17
Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.
Buck-toothed cerebral giraffe ladyboy
  04/28/17
but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract ...
Beady-eyed University Love Of Her Life
  04/28/17
first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than aver...
dark frozen trailer park
  04/28/17
(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)
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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: Exhilarant Very Tactful Range



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac meetinghouse

ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860237)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: rambunctious federal jap round eye

probably like 80%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860246)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: Exhilarant Very Tactful Range

That must be an exaggeration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860271)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac meetinghouse

you greatly overestimate college graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860274)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:20 PM
Author: rambunctious federal jap round eye

I've literally taught them. they don't know shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860432)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:01 PM
Author: Beady-eyed University Love Of Her Life

can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to them? what issue do they have with the logic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860674)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: rambunctious federal jap round eye

they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. but if it comes up in the wild, forget about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861332)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: chest-beating pervert

They are generally more confused by the equivalency between converse and inverse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860254)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: Exhilarant Very Tactful Range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860425)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: Exhilarant Very Tactful Range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860937)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:59 PM
Author: thriller place of business headpube

tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chant when I taught it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861064)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: Stubborn dashing piazza azn

What do you mean by "get it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861081)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:05 PM
Author: Fighting forum

That it's logically valid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861108)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: Stubborn dashing piazza azn

You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional statement is always true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861116)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: passionate abusive jewess menage

don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's explained? or like they come out of college, graduating and aren't familiar with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861123)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: Beady-eyed University Love Of Her Life

either not get it when explained or do get it when explained, but not able to apply it to statements whose logic does not correlate to any real-life situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861648)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:06 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring mahogany associate

what's that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861443)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: Bespoke space

Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get college degrees, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861460)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: Beady-eyed University Love Of Her Life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32863514)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: Beady-eyed University Love Of Her Life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32864062)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: Beady-eyed University Love Of Her Life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865145)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: Slap-happy boiling water



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865235)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:23 PM
Author: Beady-eyed University Love Of Her Life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868476)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: Flesh legal warrant

tmf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868488)



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Date: March 22nd, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: Beady-eyed University Love Of Her Life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32890290)



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Date: April 14th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: Beady-eyed University Love Of Her Life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33070179)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: Beady-eyed University Love Of Her Life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181541)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:53 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle queen of the night

Most college grads don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181585)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: Beady-eyed University Love Of Her Life

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181727)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle queen of the night

You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. The median college grad IQ is lower. QED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181738)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: up-to-no-good adulterous theatre fanboi

read this as "logic of the contraceptive"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181634)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: comical clear double fault tanning salon

As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly enough when you explain it to them. They are DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181742)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: Buck-toothed cerebral giraffe ladyboy

Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181755)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: Beady-eyed University Love Of Her Life

but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract situations?

how did they do on those grouping games with chains of conditional statements?

also describe the DEVASTATION

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181773)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: dark frozen trailer park

first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than average college students if you are an lsat instructor.

second, you didn't say how many got it before you explained it

third, i'd like to hear more about your n vs s stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181802)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: Laughsome Cuckold

(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359479)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: Laughsome Cuckold



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359469)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: Beady-eyed University Love Of Her Life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181919)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:06 AM
Author: Beady-eyed University Love Of Her Life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182675)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:20 AM
Author: Beady-eyed University Love Of Her Life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182732)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: Beady-eyed University Love Of Her Life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33183130)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 2:18 PM
Author: Beady-eyed University Love Of Her Life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33185399)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: Beady-eyed University Love Of Her Life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359387)



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Date: June 15th, 2017 8:39 PM
Author: Beady-eyed University Love Of Her Life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33568398)