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Are there college-educated people who don't get the logic of the contrapositive?

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Hot dingle berry degenerate
  03/18/17
ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates
House-broken Onyx Boltzmann Lodge
  03/18/17
probably like 80%
Opaque Exciting Rehab Sweet Tailpipe
  03/18/17
That must be an exaggeration
Hot dingle berry degenerate
  03/18/17
you greatly overestimate college graduates
House-broken Onyx Boltzmann Lodge
  03/18/17
I've literally taught them. they don't know shit
Opaque Exciting Rehab Sweet Tailpipe
  03/18/17
can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to t...
nudist twisted parlor ratface
  03/18/17
they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. bu...
Opaque Exciting Rehab Sweet Tailpipe
  03/18/17
They are generally more confused by the equivalency between ...
silver electric volcanic crater scourge upon the earth
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Hot dingle berry degenerate
  03/18/17
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Hot dingle berry degenerate
  03/18/17
tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chan...
alcoholic base fortuitous meteor
  03/18/17
What do you mean by "get it"?
Insanely Creepy Henna Roommate
  03/18/17
That it's logically valid.
irradiated theatre fanboi
  03/18/17
You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional state...
Insanely Creepy Henna Roommate
  03/18/17
don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's ...
aphrodisiac cyan black woman
  03/18/17
either not get it when explained or do get it when explained...
nudist twisted parlor ratface
  03/18/17
what's that?
Indigo angry ticket booth
  03/18/17
Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get...
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tmf
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nudist twisted parlor ratface
  04/27/17
Most college grads don't.
Geriatric Point Dysfunction
  04/27/17
explain
nudist twisted parlor ratface
  04/28/17
You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. ...
Geriatric Point Dysfunction
  04/28/17
read this as "logic of the contraceptive"
Mildly autistic submissive stag film
  04/27/17
As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly en...
violet concupiscible corn cake
  04/28/17
Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.
vivacious sepia pocket flask locus
  04/28/17
but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract ...
nudist twisted parlor ratface
  04/28/17
first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than aver...
clear idiot
  04/28/17
(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)
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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:47 PM
Author: Hot dingle berry degenerate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860235)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: House-broken Onyx Boltzmann Lodge

ask your local gender/ethnic studies department graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860237)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: Opaque Exciting Rehab Sweet Tailpipe

probably like 80%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860246)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: Hot dingle berry degenerate

That must be an exaggeration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860271)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: House-broken Onyx Boltzmann Lodge

you greatly overestimate college graduates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860274)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:20 PM
Author: Opaque Exciting Rehab Sweet Tailpipe

I've literally taught them. they don't know shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860432)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:01 PM
Author: nudist twisted parlor ratface

can you explain your experience with trying to teach it to them? what issue do they have with the logic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860674)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: Opaque Exciting Rehab Sweet Tailpipe

they understand it perfectly when you explain it to them. but if it comes up in the wild, forget about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861332)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 3:50 PM
Author: silver electric volcanic crater scourge upon the earth

They are generally more confused by the equivalency between converse and inverse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860254)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 4:19 PM
Author: Hot dingle berry degenerate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860425)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:42 PM
Author: Hot dingle berry degenerate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32860937)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 5:59 PM
Author: alcoholic base fortuitous meteor

tons. I would literally drill it into them like a cult chant when I taught it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861064)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:01 PM
Author: Insanely Creepy Henna Roommate

What do you mean by "get it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861081)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:05 PM
Author: irradiated theatre fanboi

That it's logically valid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861108)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:06 PM
Author: Insanely Creepy Henna Roommate

You mean that the contrapositive of a true conditional statement is always true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861116)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: aphrodisiac cyan black woman

don't get it like not capable of understanding it when it's explained? or like they come out of college, graduating and aren't familiar with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861123)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:34 PM
Author: nudist twisted parlor ratface

either not get it when explained or do get it when explained, but not able to apply it to statements whose logic does not correlate to any real-life situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861648)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:06 PM
Author: Indigo angry ticket booth

what's that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861443)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: Bull headed trailer park

Read In the basement of the ivory tower. actual retards get college degrees, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32861460)



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Date: March 18th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: nudist twisted parlor ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32863514)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: nudist twisted parlor ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32864062)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 10:52 AM
Author: nudist twisted parlor ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865145)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: offensive milky sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32865235)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:23 PM
Author: nudist twisted parlor ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868476)



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Date: March 19th, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: Judgmental office

tmf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32868488)



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Date: March 22nd, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: nudist twisted parlor ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#32890290)



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Date: April 14th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: nudist twisted parlor ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33070179)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: nudist twisted parlor ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181541)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:53 PM
Author: Geriatric Point Dysfunction

Most college grads don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181585)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: nudist twisted parlor ratface

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181727)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Geriatric Point Dysfunction

You need to have an IQ of around 115 to grasp formal logic. The median college grad IQ is lower. QED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181738)



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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:59 PM
Author: Mildly autistic submissive stag film

read this as "logic of the contraceptive"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181634)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: violet concupiscible corn cake

As a former LSAT instructor I'd say 80% can it up quickly enough when you explain it to them. They are DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181742)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: vivacious sepia pocket flask locus

Just use unnecessary and insufficient to help explain then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181755)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: nudist twisted parlor ratface

but can they apply it consistently to increasingly abstract situations?

how did they do on those grouping games with chains of conditional statements?

also describe the DEVASTATION

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181773)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: clear idiot

first, you are dealing with people who are smarter than average college students if you are an lsat instructor.

second, you didn't say how many got it before you explained it

third, i'd like to hear more about your n vs s stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181802)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:36 PM
Author: garnet filthy laser beams school

(guy still DEVASTATED by necessary vs sufficient questions)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359479)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: garnet filthy laser beams school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359469)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: nudist twisted parlor ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33181919)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:06 AM
Author: nudist twisted parlor ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182675)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 8:20 AM
Author: nudist twisted parlor ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33182732)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: nudist twisted parlor ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33183130)



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Date: April 28th, 2017 2:18 PM
Author: nudist twisted parlor ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33185399)



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Date: May 21st, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: nudist twisted parlor ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33359387)



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Date: June 15th, 2017 8:39 PM
Author: nudist twisted parlor ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3557069&forum_id=2#33568398)