what law for solo if no experience?
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Date: March 26th, 2017 9:44 PM Author: Bisexual Menage Pozpig
i actually do have like 7 years of experience. but it's in securities and fcpa. there's 0 demand for that in the particular part of middle america i'm stuck in for the foreseeable future. i have no connections here- legal or otherwise. i'm in a medium-ish city (700k) with not a ton of lawyers, but depressed economy and billing rates. i'm good with clients. and in the courtroom (though limited experience here) but despise that self-selling shit.
seems unlikely i could just waltz in and get business clients. would rather not get malpractice pwned or screw someone's life. but for various reasons, solo is my only option.
help please. i think i can get the effective website/content/social media presence thing down. but there are a million advertising options, and i'm guessing 999,990 are terrible options. should i just throw a dart at a board of specialties and claim one instead of advertising more general anything/everything? if a specialty- which one? business? t&e? crim? basic ip? basically all i've eliminated is immigration, because i've heard it's actually crazy complex, and hard to get paid for.
how do i find people to give me work/hold my hand for a case or two to make sure i'm not fucking up?
tyia.
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Date: March 26th, 2017 10:00 PM Author: histrionic trailer park
I'm a graduate of a T14 on the coasts, who also landed in middle America, in a metro area of about 600,000. After 3 years at a regional firm (450 lawyers) I had to go solo. I'm 8 years into my solo practice at this point. To succeed as a solo with weak or no ties to an area, you may need to start by taking whatever comes in, and learn how to do the work. After a while you will see what kind of connections you develop, and you can narrow your focus. I practiced in commercial real estate for 3 years at the big firm, but I found that there was very little commercial real estate work that trickled down to small firms. I did some work for residential title companies, evictions, property tax appeals, etc. and also took related work like estate planning, probate, etc. I started developing clients who owned small retail businesses (gas stations, restaurants, etc.), and this got me back into the commercial real estate sphere. I have never advertised, and I don't know any small firm attorneys who do, except the ones who only do a very narrow type of work.
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Date: March 26th, 2017 10:15 PM Author: Bisexual Menage Pozpig
thanks, this is helpful.
how did you do it with zero advertising though? did you build up some connections in the regional law firm first? i wasn't thinking, like tv and radio ads. more like having a strong website with some content, and an optimized seo search. *maybe* facebook or google ads if they wouldn't bankrupt me.
also, i was planning to join the bar, go to all the events and also join the chamber of commerce/whatever other nonsense, until i see if any of those are effective. i'm a pretty good public speaker. so it'd be nice to be able to give free "this is how you solve some problem" speeches to groups. but i'd have to figure out stuff first.
do you mind my asking how long it took you to build up a practice? i don't have a huge window to flounder here. i can make no money for one year, or not much money for two. but median solo attorney salaries (of those who reported) are around 80k here. if i'm not making at least that after two years, i'm in trouble.
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Date: March 26th, 2017 11:40 PM Author: Bearded Crackhouse Pocket Flask
if you're practicing consumer law, website is tcr, but it takes about a year before it starts working. also it needs to look good. it doesn't have to be expensive though, i saw an attorney's website the other day running on a Wix template that looked great.
some of the directories can get you some business, like justia and even avvo. it's hit or miss, but worth at least the effort of getting a listing in all of them. depending on the practice area, yelp too, if you get reviews. don't pay any of these places money for advertising though, beyond the one-time fee some charge for a directory listing.
after you get your website up, submit it through this for local seo:
https://moz.com/local
professional networking groups can be very good. it takes at least 6 months of actively getting your name out there, but business will eventually start to come in. networking with attorneys in other practice areas will lead to business. you can also sometimes get attorneys in your practice area that will give you smaller matters they don't want to deal with.
you also need to get your own network of professionals, because when you start to get clients and referrals, they're going to ask you for shit you don't do. you should be able to refer them to other attorneys, or accountants, or realtors or whatever they are asking for. give referrals out freely and abundantly, if you can.
they're lower margin, but to get business in the door in the beginning you can also sign up to be a provider for prepaid legal plans like Hyatt.
if considering PI you should read every thread by the poaster calishitlawguru.
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Date: March 26th, 2017 11:52 PM Author: costumed apoplectic stag film
Criminal or PI
This is what all the straight out of ls lawyers I know did
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