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Up for partner this year and want to killself. Taking questions

V20. It will be income because I'm a litigator. Taking ques...
HollaAchu
  04/20/17
compensation of income partner? odds and timeline of beco...
...,.,.,.....,,,
  04/20/17
$500-600k. If I do very well, 2-3 years. If not, who knows...
HollaAchu
  04/20/17
fuck my ass
...,.,.,.....,,,
  04/20/17
The minority make equity on that timeline. But I'm in one o...
HollaAchu
  04/20/17
Are you chill with junior associates
Just your average poaster
  04/20/17
I think I have a reputation as one of the best supervisors. ...
HollaAchu
  04/20/17
It makes it better If you could give your 28yr old self a...
Just your average poaster
  04/20/17
My firm will never admit this, but it is sort of a lifestyle...
HollaAchu
  04/20/17
So if you had billed less and taken more vacations as a 28yr...
Just your average poaster
  04/20/17
No. It's tough now. I just wish I did more when it was eas...
HollaAchu
  04/20/17
If you don't have a ridiculous lifestyle, you could theoreti...
Martin Prince
  04/20/17
Not even close. I live in an expensive area and have a fami...
HollaAchu
  04/20/17
you could retire on a few million and live a middle-class li...
exeunt
  04/20/17
hard to save a few million after just a few years even at hi...
fat kid watching pop tart exploding in microwave
  04/20/17
I don't have a few million and, you're right, I won't.
HollaAchu
  04/20/17
i don't know that "retirement" is a real thing any...
beckersted terrace
  04/20/17
golden handcuffs. hedonic treadmill.
exeunt
  04/20/17
What's the lowest you've billed in a year? Highest you've...
fat kid watching pop tart exploding in microwave
  04/20/17
Lowest is probably 1850 or 1900 (early in my career). Highe...
HollaAchu
  04/20/17
this sounds like my firm. although billing 2850 and around ...
Diversity Outreach Coordinator
  04/20/17
wow, that is uber killself territory
Alpha Dog
  04/20/17
was it worth the grind, in terms of your mental health?
Eugene xo
  04/20/17
I don't know. It has been tough. I like the work, hate the...
HollaAchu
  04/20/17
Lol why the fuck would she be stressed. I'm assuming sahm
nopayenogain
  04/21/17
jfc xo the question you need to ask OP is: "why do y...
mp3
  04/20/17
We're all mentally ill here. part of the implicit agreeme...
Hombre de Ley Ocho
  04/20/17
Yes but there is a wide spectrum of mental illness brother
mp3
  04/20/17
All sane poasters are alike. Every mentally ill poaster is m...
Hombre de Ley Ocho
  04/20/17
Underrated
Monkey watching TV on Roger Waters album cover
  04/21/17
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Insane right-wing gun nut
  04/20/17
How much weight have you gained since you were a first-year?
Jim_Kelly
  04/20/17
and how are you doing in terms of alcohol/cocaine? are you ...
Eugene xo
  04/20/17
Fatter. No drugs but drink more than I should.
HollaAchu
  04/20/17
when did you realize you wanted to die despite being richer ...
Friedrich NEETzche
  04/20/17
I'm generally not miserable. The only times I am is when I h...
HollaAchu
  04/20/17
Look around once you get the partner title. It may help wit...
nutella
  04/20/17
Agreed. We are done having kids and the youngest adores me....
HollaAchu
  04/20/17
Can we be honest. To the extent you "look around" ...
Jeromulus
  04/20/17
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....,,,,,,,,,....,..,.,..,
  04/20/17
lol cr, this faggot will die as a senior a law firm partner
;;;..;....;......,,,
  04/20/17
Wrong. Zero chance I leave for another law firm -- whether ...
HollaAchu
  04/20/17
As a former attorney turned biz person, no startup is hiring...
joeybank aka Crypto Eyez Killah
  04/21/17
dont really have any
Ozzie Canseco
  04/20/17
one choice. you have a rig of coke and a rig of dope. which ...
Kid Rock
  04/20/17
When you're a "partner," will you still be a bitch...
~~(>' ' )>
  04/20/17
jesus, just ram it in with no lube at all.
Jim_Kelly
  04/20/17
anyone who isn't a huge rainmaker ultimately falls into this...
SteamworksBro
  04/21/17
I'm a 6th year and I finally got the balls to turn down work...
LongTimeLurker1stTimePoaster
  04/20/17
Gay thread, what's with all these urbanbaby tards thinking &...
hours-hungry BILLPIG
  04/21/17
at least you are at a lockstep firm. I am at a v50-60 (sub v...
SteamworksBro
  04/21/17
happy w/ decision to go into law? what were your other optio...
peterman
  04/21/17


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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:29 PM
Author: HollaAchu

V20. It will be income because I'm a litigator. Taking questions until I get off the train.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33121894)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:30 PM
Author: ...,.,.,.....,,,

compensation of income partner?

odds and timeline of becoming equity?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33121901)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:31 PM
Author: HollaAchu

$500-600k. If I do very well, 2-3 years. If not, who knows.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33121908)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:32 PM
Author: ...,.,.,.....,,,

fuck my ass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33121913)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:36 PM
Author: HollaAchu

The minority make equity on that timeline. But I'm in one of the better groups.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33121936)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:47 PM
Author: Just your average poaster

Are you chill with junior associates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33121988)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:56 PM
Author: HollaAchu

I think I have a reputation as one of the best supervisors. I try not to overwork people and, when I have to, I try to make sure they're at least involved in the strategy (not that this really makes it better).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122032)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:02 PM
Author: Just your average poaster

It makes it better

If you could give your 28yr old self a piece of advice, what would it be?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122079)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:12 PM
Author: HollaAchu

My firm will never admit this, but it is sort of a lifestyle firm for junior associates. If they turn down work, nobody will bother them. If they want to take off, nobody asks them to cancel their trip. So, enjoy it as a junior. Take lots of vacations, travel abroad, and bill the minimal number of hours. If you happen to stay until you're a senior associate, nobody knows or remembers what you did as a junior (unless your work was shit).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122160)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:31 PM
Author: Just your average poaster

So if you had billed less and taken more vacations as a 28yr old, you wouldnt want to killself now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122319)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:43 PM
Author: HollaAchu

No. It's tough now. I just wish I did more when it was easier to do it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122404)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:52 PM
Author: Martin Prince (Bad (or sick) guy!)

If you don't have a ridiculous lifestyle, you could theoretically retire after 2-3 years as an income partner. Why not do that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122015)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:56 PM
Author: HollaAchu

Not even close. I live in an expensive area and have a family.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122042)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:57 PM
Author: exeunt

you could retire on a few million and live a middle-class lifestyle but you won't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122046)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:58 PM
Author: fat kid watching pop tart exploding in microwave (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8-vje-bq9c)

hard to save a few million after just a few years even at his salary... unless he has a significant chunk already saved up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122052)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:58 PM
Author: HollaAchu

I don't have a few million and, you're right, I won't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122055)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:29 PM
Author: beckersted terrace

i don't know that "retirement" is a real thing anymore in that people who retire really stop being productive in a lot of facets of life. if anything, jump to something new, start a business, etc. but don't ever fully "retire".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122296)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:56 PM
Author: exeunt

golden handcuffs. hedonic treadmill.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122043)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:57 PM
Author: fat kid watching pop tart exploding in microwave (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8-vje-bq9c)

What's the lowest you've billed in a year?

Highest you've billed in a year?

Average you've billed in a year?

If you don't make partner the first time, do they kick you out or do they basically let you chill as long as you are making the firm money, and reconsider you in subsequent years?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122047)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:03 PM
Author: HollaAchu

Lowest is probably 1850 or 1900 (early in my career). Highest is last year at 2850. Average isn't that high -- probably 2100. But the last few years have been way above average.

My group will keep you around if you're making money, especially because there is a lack of good senior associates. Probably defer deciding your progression for a bit and eventually make you counsel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122080)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:11 PM
Author: Diversity Outreach Coordinator

this sounds like my firm. although billing 2850 and around there the few years before partnership decision would pretty much guarantee you be made partner first time up.

the people not making partner are all billing below 2000... but even they are sticking around as long as they are liked and billing at least 1800 (i.e., making the firm money).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122137)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:45 PM
Author: Alpha Dog

wow, that is uber killself territory

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122416)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:58 PM
Author: Eugene xo

was it worth the grind, in terms of your mental health?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122051)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:05 PM
Author: HollaAchu

I don't know. It has been tough. I like the work, hate the hours, and most of all hate the stress it puts on my wife. Being rich is great but I'm not sure I'm going to stick it out long term. I may get the title and then start looking elsewhere.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122098)



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Date: April 21st, 2017 9:55 AM
Author: nopayenogain

Lol why the fuck would she be stressed. I'm assuming sahm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33125581)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:59 PM
Author: mp3 (RUN!!!!)

jfc xo the question you need to ask OP is:

"why do you want to kill yourself, bro? what is wrong with life?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122056)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:00 PM
Author: Hombre de Ley Ocho (Lamarcus)

We're all mentally ill here.

part of the implicit agreement when you hit the poast button

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122064)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:00 PM
Author: mp3 (RUN!!!!)

Yes but there is a wide spectrum of mental illness brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122069)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:03 PM
Author: Hombre de Ley Ocho (Lamarcus)

All sane poasters are alike. Every mentally ill poaster is mentally ill in his own way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122083)



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Date: April 21st, 2017 1:12 AM
Author: Monkey watching TV on Roger Waters album cover

Underrated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33124472)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:02 PM
Author: Insane right-wing gun nut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122074)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 7:59 PM
Author: Jim_Kelly

How much weight have you gained since you were a first-year?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122061)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:03 PM
Author: Eugene xo

and how are you doing in terms of alcohol/cocaine? are you stable or everyday?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122087)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:08 PM
Author: HollaAchu

Fatter. No drugs but drink more than I should.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122119)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:00 PM
Author: Friedrich NEETzche

when did you realize you wanted to die despite being richer than 99.99% of people in the world

i don't even mean that passive-aggressively, i am totally willing to buy that luxurious material goods can accompany a life which is still miserable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122068)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:07 PM
Author: HollaAchu

I'm generally not miserable. The only times I am is when I have to miss my child's school event, work a lot on a vacation, etc. Those make me re-think my choice .

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122115)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:10 PM
Author: nutella

Look around once you get the partner title. It may help with finding something else. You will never get back those childhood moments.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122135)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:17 PM
Author: HollaAchu

Agreed. We are done having kids and the youngest adores me. I want to be there for as much stuff as possible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122193)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:27 PM
Author: Jeromulus

Can we be honest. To the extent you "look around" it will be at other law firms to go do the exact same thing with perhaps marginally better hours. You have it in you to bill 3000 hours a year with small children. You won't quit now, or even 5 years from now when they barely know you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122271)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:32 PM
Author: ....,,,,,,,,,....,..,.,..,




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122323)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:33 PM
Author: ;;;..;....;......,,,

lol cr, this faggot will die as a senior a law firm partner

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122341)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:41 PM
Author: HollaAchu

Wrong. Zero chance I leave for another law firm -- whether big law, mid-size, or small. The quality of life isn't that much better and I have to prove myself all over again.

If I leave, it will be for an in-house job, but not at a giant company. It will have to be a small company or start-up where I can shape the culture and hire my own people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122395)



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Date: April 21st, 2017 9:52 AM
Author: joeybank aka Crypto Eyez Killah

As a former attorney turned biz person, no startup is hiring litigators. Nor is a small company. Realistically, the options for litigators are pretty minimal--if your goal is to get out of law firm life (which is great, btw), I'd start laying tracks for this ASAP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33125557)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:46 PM
Author: Ozzie Canseco

dont really have any

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122424)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:49 PM
Author: Kid Rock

one choice. you have a rig of coke and a rig of dope. which one do you choose

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122443)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:51 PM
Author: ~~(>' ' )>

When you're a "partner," will you still be a bitch who takes direction from other lawyers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122455)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:55 PM
Author: Jim_Kelly

jesus, just ram it in with no lube at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122499)



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Date: April 21st, 2017 10:04 AM
Author: SteamworksBro

anyone who isn't a huge rainmaker ultimately falls into this category.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33125651)



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Date: April 20th, 2017 8:57 PM
Author: LongTimeLurker1stTimePoaster


I'm a 6th year and I finally got the balls to turn down work once I have enough to barely hit the 2000-2100 range. My life has improved remarkably since I started this. I'd honestly rather make 350 (or whatever I make after bonus) and have no partnership chance than put in even 2500 hours for a sure shot at partner level dough.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33122519)



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Date: April 21st, 2017 1:25 AM
Author: hours-hungry BILLPIG

Gay thread, what's with all these urbanbaby tards thinking "I want to kill myself" means "I want to irl kill myself to death not flame"

Anytime I'm sluggish in the afternoon and I come back from the shitter and have a voicemail, I think "if this is someone wanting me to do work I'm gonna fucking kill myself." Chill out concernmos

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33124539)



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Date: April 21st, 2017 9:58 AM
Author: SteamworksBro

at least you are at a lockstep firm. I am at a v50-60 (sub v50 obviously) and am a senior associate in a major market making 260k. I am eligible for partner this year (no idea yet if I'm being put up) and believe that first year partners make under 350k base.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33125604)



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Date: April 21st, 2017 10:00 AM
Author: peterman

happy w/ decision to go into law? what were your other options?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3590559&forum_id=2#33125623)