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pick two americans at random. the main difference b/w them will be their IQ

agree or disagree?
chrome bespoke spot
  04/22/17
Life is a big IQ test
Vigorous garrison
  04/22/17
with no reward at the end
Snowy international law enforcement agency psychic
  04/22/17
so like a real IQ test
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  04/22/17
...
cracking kitchen
  04/22/17
...
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  04/22/17
Age.
Razzle kitty cat keepsake machete
  04/22/17
yeah, this is probably correct.
chrome bespoke spot
  04/22/17
This is almost certainly incorrect; age disribition is a pyr...
azure office
  04/22/17
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Ja1zaAogN1A/VGJ6_xIb3YI/AAAAAAAAS4...
Confused Senate
  04/22/17
Can't click on that There are far more young than olds. ...
azure office
  04/22/17
It's not a pyramid, owing to generational differences. There...
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  04/22/17
It's not much of a pyramid of the pyramid only starts in the...
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  04/22/17
one wonders where you think relatively young ppl come from
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  04/22/17
You're too dumb not to be flame
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  04/22/17
what bathroom they use
talented school
  04/22/17
...
Confused Senate
  04/22/17
not if we assume that iq follows a normal distribution, beca...
Frisky Base Really Tough Guy
  04/22/17
IQ is literally defined as following a normal distribution N...
Vigorous garrison
  04/22/17
yes i know just highlighting why it's an important considera...
Frisky Base Really Tough Guy
  04/22/17
carry on
Vigorous garrison
  04/22/17
The tests were *designed* to have 100 means and SDs of 15 or...
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  04/22/17
except for the part where they convert from a raw score to a...
low-t wonderful milk old irish cottage
  04/22/17
correct
Vigorous garrison
  04/22/17
sure but a histogram of questions answered correctly would h...
electric parlor
  04/22/17
Disagree. Bell curve and all - most people cluster around th...
azure office
  04/22/17
...
aqua abode
  04/22/17
(person who read my post three minutes ago)
Frisky Base Really Tough Guy
  04/22/17
Where my reasoning breaks down is comparing whether there is...
azure office
  04/22/17
You keep saying "clustering" but I don't think you...
Vigorous garrison
  04/22/17
I may not . I just mean to say the sort of normal distribut...
azure office
  04/22/17
(person who read the second paragraph of my post six minutes...
Frisky Base Really Tough Guy
  04/22/17
Dat z score
Confused Senate
  04/22/17
(Normal distribution masterwoman)
Vigorous garrison
  04/22/17
(Statistics expert)
Confused Senate
  04/22/17
...
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  04/22/17
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Disturbing Odious Shrine Lettuce
  04/22/17
race
bright bisexual principal's office
  04/22/17
honestly I don't think this is true even in 2017. maybe in 2...
chrome bespoke spot
  04/22/17
Also hard to quantify racial difference. Is the difference b...
azure office
  04/22/17
2 american children, then
bright bisexual principal's office
  04/22/17
weirdly worded q, random means you could get 2 equal IQ peop...
Exciting sanctuary
  04/22/17
(guy who doesn't think probabilistically)
low-t wonderful milk old irish cottage
  04/22/17
I mean if the question is really a probability one like aske...
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  04/22/17
ding ding ding
talented school
  04/22/17
Income would get you further apart, insofar as it has a high...
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  04/22/17
income isn't normally distributed either. wealth distributio...
electric parlor
  04/22/17
weight
Laughsome Circlehead
  04/22/17
yeah especially since women weigh much less than men *record...
electric parlor
  04/22/17
factor in young children
Laughsome Circlehead
  04/22/17
Gender
titillating trust fund
  04/22/17
not a continuous variable unless you're a shitlib.
electric parlor
  04/22/17
FB's 53 genders is close to continuous
Vigorous garrison
  04/22/17
this sits is full of autism and it upsets me
cracking kitchen
  04/22/17
height
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  04/22/17


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Date: April 22nd, 2017 9:50 AM
Author: chrome bespoke spot

agree or disagree?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133358)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 9:53 AM
Author: Vigorous garrison

Life is a big IQ test

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133369)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 2:52 PM
Author: Snowy international law enforcement agency psychic

with no reward at the end

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33134999)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 2:59 PM
Author: low-t wonderful milk old irish cottage

so like a real IQ test

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33135041)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 8:08 PM
Author: cracking kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33137363)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 8:16 PM
Author: Gaped weed whacker main people



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33137413)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:03 AM
Author: Razzle kitty cat keepsake machete

Age.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133413)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:18 AM
Author: chrome bespoke spot

yeah, this is probably correct.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133496)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:24 AM
Author: azure office

This is almost certainly incorrect; age disribition is a pyramid. The odds of a very old and very young person being randomly selected is much smaller than two relatively young people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133512)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:26 AM
Author: Confused Senate

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Ja1zaAogN1A/VGJ6_xIb3YI/AAAAAAAAS4k/1QLfaPkY8r0/s1600/US-Population-By-Age.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133520)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:28 AM
Author: azure office

Can't click on that

There are far more young than olds. Age is a pyramid. Bigger base/ smaller top. What we are looking for is something with a small SD that is also not a pyramid in structure. I.e.- lots of variation, and a fairly equal distribution of the variation

Edit: Look at the graph you posted turned vertically. It's essentially a pyramid; you just chose a visual that plots on a different axis. Google " age pyramid" or population pyramid ... http://www.indexmundi.com/united_states/age_structure.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133526)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 11:03 AM
Author: supple erotic university gay wizard

It's not a pyramid, owing to generational differences. There are more people 50-59 than there are 0-9.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133713)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 2:34 PM
Author: Cocky pisswyrm lay

It's not much of a pyramid of the pyramid only starts in the 50s.

Why don't you just make your argument without the pyramid claim?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33134916)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 12:23 PM
Author: cream voyeur institution

one wonders where you think relatively young ppl come from

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33134289)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 8:22 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Brass Space Toilet Seat

You're too dumb not to be flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33137443)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:05 AM
Author: talented school

what bathroom they use

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133425)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:06 AM
Author: Confused Senate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133429)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:06 AM
Author: Frisky Base Really Tough Guy

not if we assume that iq follows a normal distribution, because there are other traits which follow distributions which have higher likely spreads (e.g. age)

it also depends on how you're quantifying the difference. for example, how do you compare a difference in a numerical trait like age to a binary trait like gender.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133427)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:12 AM
Author: Vigorous garrison

IQ is literally defined as following a normal distribution N(100,15)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133467)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:15 AM
Author: Frisky Base Really Tough Guy

yes i know just highlighting why it's an important consideration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133481)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:16 AM
Author: Vigorous garrison

carry on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133485)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 2:39 PM
Author: Cocky pisswyrm lay

The tests were *designed* to have 100 means and SDs of 15 or 16 (depending on the test), but that's different from *defining* IQ in that way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33134937)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 2:50 PM
Author: low-t wonderful milk old irish cottage

except for the part where they convert from a raw score to a scaled score, so they pretty much get to decide on the distribution. they norm it on a large enough sample that they pretty much know how people are going to do.

of course the scores are roughly normally distributed anyway, that's why they don't use some other distribution instead.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33134987)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 8:06 PM
Author: Vigorous garrison

correct



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33137357)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 2:52 PM
Author: electric parlor

sure but a histogram of questions answered correctly would have an even tighter numerical distribution. at the upper and lower ends of IQ scores, just a few questions can move you by a standard deviation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33134996)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:09 AM
Author: azure office

Disagree. Bell curve and all - most people cluster around the mean IQ of 100. This is also true for most biometric markers. Best to pick something without as tight of a mean cluster if you want to improve your odds of big differences between two randoms. Age is a good one



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133449)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:10 AM
Author: aqua abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133453)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:10 AM
Author: Frisky Base Really Tough Guy

(person who read my post three minutes ago)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133456)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:12 AM
Author: azure office

Where my reasoning breaks down is comparing whether there is greater statistical likelihood of a difference in something binary ( like gender or political orientation) vs something mean clustered. I'm not good enough at statistics for that, but it seems dependent on the size of the SD.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133466)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:13 AM
Author: Vigorous garrison

You keep saying "clustering" but I don't think you know what it means

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133473)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:15 AM
Author: azure office

I may not . I just mean to say the sort of normal distribution usually expected with markers like IQ or height

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133480)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:13 AM
Author: Frisky Base Really Tough Guy

(person who read the second paragraph of my post six minutes ago)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133474)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:14 AM
Author: Confused Senate

Dat z score

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133477)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:11 AM
Author: Vigorous garrison

(Normal distribution masterwoman)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133460)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:12 AM
Author: Confused Senate

(Statistics expert)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133463)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:16 AM
Author: Henna Mad-dog Skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133486)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:14 AM
Author: Disturbing Odious Shrine Lettuce

Julia I love your poasts and your tits too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133476)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:10 AM
Author: bright bisexual principal's office

race

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133458)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:18 AM
Author: chrome bespoke spot

honestly I don't think this is true even in 2017. maybe in 2037 though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133494)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:22 AM
Author: azure office

Also hard to quantify racial difference. Is the difference between a black vs a white person greater or equal to an Asian vs White person? And is the difference between either greater than the difference between a 100 vs 115 IQ? IQ, age, height, etc., at least are quantifiable and you can argue that the greater the SD, the bigger the difference. " Race" is pretty vague in that regard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133503)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 12:22 PM
Author: bright bisexual principal's office

2 american children, then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33134281)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:28 AM
Author: Exciting sanctuary

weirdly worded q, random means you could get 2 equal IQ people?

if you're asking what single trait, all other things being equal, would cause the biggest difference in two different americans, obviously 70 iq/130 iq would probably be the biggest reasonable difference yea. otherwise, it's probably some geographic difference like coastal urbanite v. breadbasket farmer.

race would be a big one except there's very little difference between asians and white strivers, also hispanics and poor whites. obviously upper class asian and urban black would be the biggest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133530)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:31 AM
Author: low-t wonderful milk old irish cottage

(guy who doesn't think probabilistically)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133545)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:43 AM
Author: Exciting sanctuary

I mean if the question is really a probability one like asked, then iq can't be the biggest difference because of the bell curve - picking two random people means your highest chances are of picking 2 100-iq people and fans out from there. Same thing with race though to a lesser degree - most Americans are white, blacks are only like 10% - so the highest likelihood is white-white. Same thing with urban/rural because something like 75% of the country lives in urban areas.

The answer would probably be sex then, given that half the time you get a pretty meaningless same-sex pairing but half the time you get an opposite-sex pairing. Men and women are very different - you might get bigger differences between black poor and rich asian, or 140-iq versus 60-iq, but because the probability of that pairing coming up is so low you're better off just picking sex.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133599)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 11:04 AM
Author: talented school

ding ding ding

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133724)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 11:06 AM
Author: supple erotic university gay wizard

Income would get you further apart, insofar as it has a higher SD compared to its mean.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133730)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 2:48 PM
Author: electric parlor

income isn't normally distributed either. wealth distribution is even more extreme.

it'd be incredibly unlikely to draw two people at random where one has an IQ even 4x the other.

income even if you draw the top 10% against bottom 10% that's a massive relative difference. not even sure it'd make sense since the bottom of the income distribution without government assistance is 0. is a middle class person infinitely better off than a poor?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33134974)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 2:40 PM
Author: Laughsome Circlehead

weight

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33134942)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 2:52 PM
Author: electric parlor

yeah especially since women weigh much less than men *record scratch sound*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33135002)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 2:58 PM
Author: Laughsome Circlehead

factor in young children

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33135034)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 2:40 PM
Author: titillating trust fund

Gender

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33134943)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 2:49 PM
Author: electric parlor

not a continuous variable unless you're a shitlib.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33134979)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 8:07 PM
Author: Vigorous garrison

FB's 53 genders is close to continuous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33137360)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 8:08 PM
Author: cracking kitchen

this sits is full of autism and it upsets me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33137367)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 8:19 PM
Author: Balding Cowardly Resort Halford

height

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33137427)