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pick two americans at random. the main difference b/w them will be their IQ

agree or disagree?
electric theatre selfie
  04/22/17
Life is a big IQ test
motley wine dopamine queen of the night
  04/22/17
with no reward at the end
Swashbuckling Area
  04/22/17
so like a real IQ test
Contagious trump supporter home
  04/22/17
...
Kink-friendly razzle-dazzle personal credit line pistol
  04/22/17
...
Aphrodisiac maniacal people who are hurt
  04/22/17
Age.
pearly stimulating tank
  04/22/17
yeah, this is probably correct.
electric theatre selfie
  04/22/17
This is almost certainly incorrect; age disribition is a pyr...
Insanely Creepy Shivering Principal's Office
  04/22/17
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Ja1zaAogN1A/VGJ6_xIb3YI/AAAAAAAAS4...
maroon theater stage
  04/22/17
Can't click on that There are far more young than olds. ...
Insanely Creepy Shivering Principal's Office
  04/22/17
It's not a pyramid, owing to generational differences. There...
Glassy trailer park hairy legs
  04/22/17
It's not much of a pyramid of the pyramid only starts in the...
Bistre razzle party of the first part
  04/22/17
one wonders where you think relatively young ppl come from
Bateful transparent locus
  04/22/17
You're too dumb not to be flame
mahogany high-end institution
  04/22/17
what bathroom they use
Blathering Field Useless Brakes
  04/22/17
...
maroon theater stage
  04/22/17
not if we assume that iq follows a normal distribution, beca...
maize regret
  04/22/17
IQ is literally defined as following a normal distribution N...
motley wine dopamine queen of the night
  04/22/17
yes i know just highlighting why it's an important considera...
maize regret
  04/22/17
carry on
motley wine dopamine queen of the night
  04/22/17
The tests were *designed* to have 100 means and SDs of 15 or...
Bistre razzle party of the first part
  04/22/17
except for the part where they convert from a raw score to a...
Contagious trump supporter home
  04/22/17
correct
motley wine dopamine queen of the night
  04/22/17
sure but a histogram of questions answered correctly would h...
Mildly Autistic Stage
  04/22/17
Disagree. Bell curve and all - most people cluster around th...
Insanely Creepy Shivering Principal's Office
  04/22/17
...
poppy histrionic puppy telephone
  04/22/17
(person who read my post three minutes ago)
maize regret
  04/22/17
Where my reasoning breaks down is comparing whether there is...
Insanely Creepy Shivering Principal's Office
  04/22/17
You keep saying "clustering" but I don't think you...
motley wine dopamine queen of the night
  04/22/17
I may not . I just mean to say the sort of normal distribut...
Insanely Creepy Shivering Principal's Office
  04/22/17
(person who read the second paragraph of my post six minutes...
maize regret
  04/22/17
Dat z score
maroon theater stage
  04/22/17
(Normal distribution masterwoman)
motley wine dopamine queen of the night
  04/22/17
(Statistics expert)
maroon theater stage
  04/22/17
...
Slippery Khaki Twinkling Uncleanness Spot
  04/22/17
Julia I love your poasts and your tits too.
self-absorbed learning disabled genital piercing
  04/22/17
race
metal comical dragon national security agency
  04/22/17
honestly I don't think this is true even in 2017. maybe in 2...
electric theatre selfie
  04/22/17
Also hard to quantify racial difference. Is the difference b...
Insanely Creepy Shivering Principal's Office
  04/22/17
2 american children, then
metal comical dragon national security agency
  04/22/17
weirdly worded q, random means you could get 2 equal IQ peop...
supple sable liquid oxygen
  04/22/17
(guy who doesn't think probabilistically)
Contagious trump supporter home
  04/22/17
I mean if the question is really a probability one like aske...
supple sable liquid oxygen
  04/22/17
ding ding ding
Blathering Field Useless Brakes
  04/22/17
Income would get you further apart, insofar as it has a high...
Glassy trailer park hairy legs
  04/22/17
income isn't normally distributed either. wealth distributio...
Mildly Autistic Stage
  04/22/17
weight
honey-headed harsh new version
  04/22/17
yeah especially since women weigh much less than men *record...
Mildly Autistic Stage
  04/22/17
factor in young children
honey-headed harsh new version
  04/22/17
Gender
Stirring state therapy
  04/22/17
not a continuous variable unless you're a shitlib.
Mildly Autistic Stage
  04/22/17
FB's 53 genders is close to continuous
motley wine dopamine queen of the night
  04/22/17
this sits is full of autism and it upsets me
Kink-friendly razzle-dazzle personal credit line pistol
  04/22/17
height
At-the-ready Floppy Goyim
  04/22/17


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Date: April 22nd, 2017 9:50 AM
Author: electric theatre selfie

agree or disagree?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133358)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 9:53 AM
Author: motley wine dopamine queen of the night

Life is a big IQ test

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133369)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 2:52 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Area

with no reward at the end

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33134999)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 2:59 PM
Author: Contagious trump supporter home

so like a real IQ test

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33135041)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 8:08 PM
Author: Kink-friendly razzle-dazzle personal credit line pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33137363)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 8:16 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac maniacal people who are hurt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33137413)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:03 AM
Author: pearly stimulating tank

Age.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133413)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:18 AM
Author: electric theatre selfie

yeah, this is probably correct.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133496)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:24 AM
Author: Insanely Creepy Shivering Principal's Office

This is almost certainly incorrect; age disribition is a pyramid. The odds of a very old and very young person being randomly selected is much smaller than two relatively young people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133512)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:26 AM
Author: maroon theater stage

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Ja1zaAogN1A/VGJ6_xIb3YI/AAAAAAAAS4k/1QLfaPkY8r0/s1600/US-Population-By-Age.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133520)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:28 AM
Author: Insanely Creepy Shivering Principal's Office

Can't click on that

There are far more young than olds. Age is a pyramid. Bigger base/ smaller top. What we are looking for is something with a small SD that is also not a pyramid in structure. I.e.- lots of variation, and a fairly equal distribution of the variation

Edit: Look at the graph you posted turned vertically. It's essentially a pyramid; you just chose a visual that plots on a different axis. Google " age pyramid" or population pyramid ... http://www.indexmundi.com/united_states/age_structure.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133526)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 11:03 AM
Author: Glassy trailer park hairy legs

It's not a pyramid, owing to generational differences. There are more people 50-59 than there are 0-9.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133713)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 2:34 PM
Author: Bistre razzle party of the first part

It's not much of a pyramid of the pyramid only starts in the 50s.

Why don't you just make your argument without the pyramid claim?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33134916)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 12:23 PM
Author: Bateful transparent locus

one wonders where you think relatively young ppl come from

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33134289)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 8:22 PM
Author: mahogany high-end institution

You're too dumb not to be flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33137443)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:05 AM
Author: Blathering Field Useless Brakes

what bathroom they use

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133425)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:06 AM
Author: maroon theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133429)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:06 AM
Author: maize regret

not if we assume that iq follows a normal distribution, because there are other traits which follow distributions which have higher likely spreads (e.g. age)

it also depends on how you're quantifying the difference. for example, how do you compare a difference in a numerical trait like age to a binary trait like gender.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133427)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:12 AM
Author: motley wine dopamine queen of the night

IQ is literally defined as following a normal distribution N(100,15)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133467)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:15 AM
Author: maize regret

yes i know just highlighting why it's an important consideration

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133481)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:16 AM
Author: motley wine dopamine queen of the night

carry on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133485)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 2:39 PM
Author: Bistre razzle party of the first part

The tests were *designed* to have 100 means and SDs of 15 or 16 (depending on the test), but that's different from *defining* IQ in that way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33134937)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 2:50 PM
Author: Contagious trump supporter home

except for the part where they convert from a raw score to a scaled score, so they pretty much get to decide on the distribution. they norm it on a large enough sample that they pretty much know how people are going to do.

of course the scores are roughly normally distributed anyway, that's why they don't use some other distribution instead.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33134987)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 8:06 PM
Author: motley wine dopamine queen of the night

correct



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33137357)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 2:52 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Stage

sure but a histogram of questions answered correctly would have an even tighter numerical distribution. at the upper and lower ends of IQ scores, just a few questions can move you by a standard deviation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33134996)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:09 AM
Author: Insanely Creepy Shivering Principal's Office

Disagree. Bell curve and all - most people cluster around the mean IQ of 100. This is also true for most biometric markers. Best to pick something without as tight of a mean cluster if you want to improve your odds of big differences between two randoms. Age is a good one



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133449)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:10 AM
Author: poppy histrionic puppy telephone



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133453)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:10 AM
Author: maize regret

(person who read my post three minutes ago)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133456)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:12 AM
Author: Insanely Creepy Shivering Principal's Office

Where my reasoning breaks down is comparing whether there is greater statistical likelihood of a difference in something binary ( like gender or political orientation) vs something mean clustered. I'm not good enough at statistics for that, but it seems dependent on the size of the SD.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133466)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:13 AM
Author: motley wine dopamine queen of the night

You keep saying "clustering" but I don't think you know what it means

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133473)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:15 AM
Author: Insanely Creepy Shivering Principal's Office

I may not . I just mean to say the sort of normal distribution usually expected with markers like IQ or height

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133480)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:13 AM
Author: maize regret

(person who read the second paragraph of my post six minutes ago)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133474)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:14 AM
Author: maroon theater stage

Dat z score

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133477)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:11 AM
Author: motley wine dopamine queen of the night

(Normal distribution masterwoman)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133460)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:12 AM
Author: maroon theater stage

(Statistics expert)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133463)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:16 AM
Author: Slippery Khaki Twinkling Uncleanness Spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133486)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:14 AM
Author: self-absorbed learning disabled genital piercing

Julia I love your poasts and your tits too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133476)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:10 AM
Author: metal comical dragon national security agency

race

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133458)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:18 AM
Author: electric theatre selfie

honestly I don't think this is true even in 2017. maybe in 2037 though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133494)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:22 AM
Author: Insanely Creepy Shivering Principal's Office

Also hard to quantify racial difference. Is the difference between a black vs a white person greater or equal to an Asian vs White person? And is the difference between either greater than the difference between a 100 vs 115 IQ? IQ, age, height, etc., at least are quantifiable and you can argue that the greater the SD, the bigger the difference. " Race" is pretty vague in that regard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133503)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 12:22 PM
Author: metal comical dragon national security agency

2 american children, then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33134281)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:28 AM
Author: supple sable liquid oxygen

weirdly worded q, random means you could get 2 equal IQ people?

if you're asking what single trait, all other things being equal, would cause the biggest difference in two different americans, obviously 70 iq/130 iq would probably be the biggest reasonable difference yea. otherwise, it's probably some geographic difference like coastal urbanite v. breadbasket farmer.

race would be a big one except there's very little difference between asians and white strivers, also hispanics and poor whites. obviously upper class asian and urban black would be the biggest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133530)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:31 AM
Author: Contagious trump supporter home

(guy who doesn't think probabilistically)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133545)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 10:43 AM
Author: supple sable liquid oxygen

I mean if the question is really a probability one like asked, then iq can't be the biggest difference because of the bell curve - picking two random people means your highest chances are of picking 2 100-iq people and fans out from there. Same thing with race though to a lesser degree - most Americans are white, blacks are only like 10% - so the highest likelihood is white-white. Same thing with urban/rural because something like 75% of the country lives in urban areas.

The answer would probably be sex then, given that half the time you get a pretty meaningless same-sex pairing but half the time you get an opposite-sex pairing. Men and women are very different - you might get bigger differences between black poor and rich asian, or 140-iq versus 60-iq, but because the probability of that pairing coming up is so low you're better off just picking sex.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133599)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 11:04 AM
Author: Blathering Field Useless Brakes

ding ding ding

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133724)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 11:06 AM
Author: Glassy trailer park hairy legs

Income would get you further apart, insofar as it has a higher SD compared to its mean.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33133730)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 2:48 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Stage

income isn't normally distributed either. wealth distribution is even more extreme.

it'd be incredibly unlikely to draw two people at random where one has an IQ even 4x the other.

income even if you draw the top 10% against bottom 10% that's a massive relative difference. not even sure it'd make sense since the bottom of the income distribution without government assistance is 0. is a middle class person infinitely better off than a poor?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33134974)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 2:40 PM
Author: honey-headed harsh new version

weight

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33134942)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 2:52 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Stage

yeah especially since women weigh much less than men *record scratch sound*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33135002)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 2:58 PM
Author: honey-headed harsh new version

factor in young children

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33135034)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 2:40 PM
Author: Stirring state therapy

Gender

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33134943)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 2:49 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Stage

not a continuous variable unless you're a shitlib.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33134979)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 8:07 PM
Author: motley wine dopamine queen of the night

FB's 53 genders is close to continuous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33137360)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 8:08 PM
Author: Kink-friendly razzle-dazzle personal credit line pistol

this sits is full of autism and it upsets me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33137367)



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Date: April 22nd, 2017 8:19 PM
Author: At-the-ready Floppy Goyim

height

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3592014&forum_id=2#33137427)