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Orange County residents literally look down at Los Angeles residents of

Don't matter if you live in the Beverly Hills baby. Los Ange...
burgundy people who are hurt kitchen
  04/29/17
Can boxy short Mestizos look down on anyone, metaphorically ...
cerebral trump supporter patrolman
  04/29/17
Ouch.
Underhanded trailer park
  04/29/17
(Maf kike)
burgundy people who are hurt kitchen
  04/29/17
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Salmon hairraiser legend
  04/30/17
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Bateful den goyim
  04/30/17
(Autistic loser)
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(Jewish curly haired loser)
burgundy people who are hurt kitchen
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  05/05/17
LA trumpmo here
Underhanded trailer park
  04/29/17
(rootless degen)
jet up-to-no-good stead
  04/30/17
...
burgundy people who are hurt kitchen
  04/30/17
I've met tons of people from OC and never liked any of them.
Jade native mediation
  04/29/17
(Democrat)
burgundy people who are hurt kitchen
  04/29/17
:(
Charismatic Brethren
  04/29/17
Flame mothafucka! Manhattan/Hermosa/Redondo Beach Palos ...
Charismatic Brethren
  04/29/17
We don't claim them
burgundy people who are hurt kitchen
  04/29/17
Who the fuck is "we"? Where are you from? If yo...
Charismatic Brethren
  04/29/17
Think Huntington Beach/Costa Mesa/Irvine/Aliso Viejo
burgundy people who are hurt kitchen
  04/30/17
Risten, RA tlumpmo... (Irvine resident)
Buff azn
  04/30/17
You didn't grow up here did you? Meet me at Salt Creek I liv...
Charismatic Brethren
  04/30/17
I was born & raised in Orange County. Got out of here fo...
burgundy people who are hurt kitchen
  04/30/17
Fuck yeah. How are you dealing with the boredom?
Charismatic Brethren
  04/30/17
It goes both ways
alcoholic boiling water persian
  04/30/17
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Salmon hairraiser legend
  04/30/17
Everyone knows Los Angeles people are weird af. Orange Count...
burgundy people who are hurt kitchen
  04/30/17
THat's literally just the transplant faggots in Silver Lake ...
Salmon hairraiser legend
  04/30/17
This is true. There are parts in the valley that feel like t...
Erotic Cruise Ship Indirect Expression
  04/30/17
parts of Studio City, Burbank, Glendale, Montrose, La Cresce...
Salmon hairraiser legend
  04/30/17
La Canada is some nice place but it's surrounded by filthy L...
burgundy people who are hurt kitchen
  04/30/17
San Fernando Valley is basically a more boring version of Ri...
burgundy people who are hurt kitchen
  04/30/17
there are upscale places in the valley with gated communitie...
Erotic Cruise Ship Indirect Expression
  04/30/17
I'm surprised but it looks like la has more self employed ...
soggy citrine place of business
  04/30/17
Only certain parts of LA are directly connected to large com...
Salmon hairraiser legend
  04/30/17
Los Angeles has a bit more than twice the amount of populati...
burgundy people who are hurt kitchen
  04/30/17
The link shows percentages
soggy citrine place of business
  04/30/17
It really doesn't. I don't have strong feeling either way ab...
Underhanded trailer park
  04/30/17
The traffic in la leads me to believe that about 1/2 of Oran...
Provocative Cordovan Corner Immigrant
  04/30/17
Very wrong. There is more traffic going southbound on the 40...
burgundy people who are hurt kitchen
  04/30/17
LITERALLY
Galvanic flesh marketing idea
  04/30/17
Guy who grew up in OC here. I would say this is false. More ...
Erotic Cruise Ship Indirect Expression
  04/30/17
cr. OP is a fucking retard.
know-it-all national
  04/30/17
Well, yes TCTP is top 5 most retarded poasters here
Salmon hairraiser legend
  04/30/17
same and I agree with you.
aromatic candlestick maker center
  04/30/17
(Guy who grew up in San Clemente)
burgundy people who are hurt kitchen
  04/30/17
What do you have against Pedro's Tacos bro
Charismatic Brethren
  04/30/17
San Diego bro here, Orange County people are weirdly prole a...
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Strangely cr
Charismatic Brethren
  04/30/17
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Salmon hairraiser legend
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alcoholic boiling water persian
  05/03/17
MFCR especially the white people in OC. The Asians and Pers...
Stirring Shrine Pisswyrm
  05/05/17
Oddly specific but this sounds accurate
soggy citrine place of business
  05/05/17
And Norcal people look down on that whole region
big resort
  04/30/17
Ljl at those rice burrito eating AIDS faggots
Razzle cerise foreskin location
  04/30/17
...
alcoholic boiling water persian
  05/05/17
lol NorCal cares about SoCal more than the reverse It...
Salmon hairraiser legend
  04/30/17
...
Charismatic Brethren
  04/30/17
...
burgundy people who are hurt kitchen
  04/30/17
NorCal is "hella" shitty
Charismatic Brethren
  04/30/17
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Cheese-eating motley dragon
  04/30/17
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Cruel-hearted point
  04/30/17
Norcal people are objectively better humans than socal peopl...
copper whorehouse sex offender
  04/30/17
NorCal people are nicer , especially the folks in the Centra...
burgundy people who are hurt kitchen
  04/30/17
I find norcal people including bay area folk to be more civi...
copper whorehouse sex offender
  04/30/17
OC/LA are very different but OC people mainly complain about...
copper whorehouse sex offender
  04/30/17
Tbf la mo here and I complain about those as well
soggy citrine place of business
  04/30/17
...
cerebral trump supporter patrolman
  05/03/17
Isn't OC all chinks these days?
mind-boggling outnumbered school filthpig
  05/03/17
Only Irvine and garden grove
burgundy people who are hurt kitchen
  05/03/17
This thread is some city-data shit tier discussion. Very ...
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Date: April 29th, 2017 11:00 PM
Author: burgundy people who are hurt kitchen

Don't matter if you live in the Beverly Hills baby. Los Angeles people are extremely lib and weird af.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33194633)



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Date: April 29th, 2017 11:01 PM
Author: cerebral trump supporter patrolman

Can boxy short Mestizos look down on anyone, metaphorically or literally?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33194655)



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Date: April 29th, 2017 11:02 PM
Author: Underhanded trailer park

Ouch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33194663)



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Date: April 29th, 2017 11:02 PM
Author: burgundy people who are hurt kitchen

(Maf kike)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33194668)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 12:08 AM
Author: Salmon hairraiser legend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33195067)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 2:41 AM
Author: Bateful den goyim



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33195693)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 4:48 AM
Author: bearded dysfunction

(Autistic loser)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33195916)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 11:47 AM
Author: burgundy people who are hurt kitchen

(Jewish curly haired loser)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33196979)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 1:33 PM
Author: talented bespoke range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33197738)



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Date: May 5th, 2017 7:22 AM
Author: odious carnelian macaca



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33235912)



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Date: April 29th, 2017 11:03 PM
Author: Underhanded trailer park

LA trumpmo here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33194670)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 12:44 PM
Author: jet up-to-no-good stead

(rootless degen)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33197421)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 12:52 PM
Author: burgundy people who are hurt kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33197450)



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Date: April 29th, 2017 11:03 PM
Author: Jade native mediation

I've met tons of people from OC and never liked any of them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33194677)



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Date: April 29th, 2017 11:04 PM
Author: burgundy people who are hurt kitchen

(Democrat)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33194680)



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Date: April 29th, 2017 11:05 PM
Author: Charismatic Brethren

:(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33194683)



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Date: April 29th, 2017 11:06 PM
Author: Charismatic Brethren

Flame mothafucka!

Manhattan/Hermosa/Redondo Beach

Palos Verdes

El Segundo

Basically extensions of OC.

OP do you live here?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33194694)



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Date: April 29th, 2017 11:07 PM
Author: burgundy people who are hurt kitchen

We don't claim them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33194704)



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Date: April 29th, 2017 11:08 PM
Author: Charismatic Brethren

Who the fuck is "we"? Where are you from?

If you're from anywhere north of the el toro Y I don't want to hear it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33194712)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 12:06 AM
Author: burgundy people who are hurt kitchen

Think Huntington Beach/Costa Mesa/Irvine/Aliso Viejo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33195058)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 1:28 AM
Author: Buff azn

Risten, RA tlumpmo...

(Irvine resident)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33195467)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 4:42 AM
Author: Charismatic Brethren

You didn't grow up here did you? Meet me at Salt Creek I live in Ritz Cove let's fight

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33195910)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 11:21 AM
Author: burgundy people who are hurt kitchen

I was born & raised in Orange County. Got out of here for college. Now I'm back

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33196756)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 2:28 PM
Author: Charismatic Brethren

Fuck yeah. How are you dealing with the boredom?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33198082)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 12:10 AM
Author: alcoholic boiling water persian

It goes both ways

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33195075)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 12:10 AM
Author: Salmon hairraiser legend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33195077)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: burgundy people who are hurt kitchen

Everyone knows Los Angeles people are weird af. Orange County people have more in common with folks in the south and midwest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33195092)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Salmon hairraiser legend

THat's literally just the transplant faggots in Silver Lake

Parts of the Valley pwns OC just b/c it's a nice suburb that's actually closer to 180 parts of LA, and doesn't feel as fake and plastic as places like Irvine, while having decent public schools that is not a cesspool of ghetto nigs or on the other extreme striver factories like Irvine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33195104)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 12:16 AM
Author: Erotic Cruise Ship Indirect Expression

This is true. There are parts in the valley that feel like they have been transported from OC but are near LA. It's weird.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33195110)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 12:18 AM
Author: Salmon hairraiser legend

parts of Studio City, Burbank, Glendale, Montrose, La Crescenta, and if you have moar $$ La Canada are 180 places



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33195123)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 12:21 AM
Author: burgundy people who are hurt kitchen

La Canada is some nice place but it's surrounded by filthy Los Angeles smog. Pass!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33195150)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 12:20 AM
Author: burgundy people who are hurt kitchen

San Fernando Valley is basically a more boring version of Riverside. Bro LA County is just weird af. Bunch of rich people and bunch of poor people. Literally a third world country. But but Santa Monica is nice! And Venice has such creative folk! LJL. It's just a fucked up place with shit public schools.

Orange County is great because of its strong middle class. Public schools are great almost everywhere you go except Santa Ana and Anaheim. People here prefer to run their own small businesses rather than work at megacorp like most Los Angeles faggots do. Literally, Los Angeles people work in big corporations and very few run their own business.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33195147)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 12:22 AM
Author: Erotic Cruise Ship Indirect Expression

there are upscale places in the valley with gated communities and shit that feel like replicas of the gated communities of south OC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33195153)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 12:29 AM
Author: soggy citrine place of business

I'm surprised but it looks like la has more self employed

http://www.towncharts.com/California/Economy/Orange-County-CA-Economy-data.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33195191)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 12:33 AM
Author: Salmon hairraiser legend

Only certain parts of LA are directly connected to large companies- and especially true of areas like La Canada, La Crescenta etc where all the AZNs there have businesses in the Fashion District, while the white people generally tend to be retired boomers/people that work in local businesses or lots of white collar professionals - i.e. doctors, dentists etc over corporate, although some of them do work in DTLA.

Simply that area is too far from the center of LA's white collar big megacorps in Century City

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33195210)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 1:27 AM
Author: burgundy people who are hurt kitchen

Los Angeles has a bit more than twice the amount of population Orange County has

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33195459)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 2:25 AM
Author: soggy citrine place of business

The link shows percentages

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33195664)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 1:16 AM
Author: Underhanded trailer park

It really doesn't. I don't have strong feeling either way about OC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33195420)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: Provocative Cordovan Corner Immigrant

The traffic in la leads me to believe that about 1/2 of Orange County works in la and vice versa.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33195089)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 12:23 AM
Author: burgundy people who are hurt kitchen

Very wrong. There is more traffic going southbound on the 405 than there is traffic going northbound of the 405. Most OC resident live and work here. But there's lots of LA faggots who come work here cause LA doesn't have jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33195163)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: Galvanic flesh marketing idea

LITERALLY

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33195091)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 12:14 AM
Author: Erotic Cruise Ship Indirect Expression

Guy who grew up in OC here. I would say this is false. More like OCers don't spend any time thinking about LAmos. It's like a distant land. OC is a bubble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33195103)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 12:19 AM
Author: know-it-all national

cr. OP is a fucking retard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33195135)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 12:20 AM
Author: Salmon hairraiser legend

Well, yes TCTP is top 5 most retarded poasters here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33195142)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 1:11 AM
Author: aromatic candlestick maker center

same and I agree with you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33195406)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 11:28 AM
Author: burgundy people who are hurt kitchen

(Guy who grew up in San Clemente)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33196823)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 2:28 PM
Author: Charismatic Brethren

What do you have against Pedro's Tacos bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33198085)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 3:04 AM
Author: Razzle cerise foreskin location

San Diego bro here, Orange County people are weirdly prole and have bad taste, i think of mega churches and 50 year old dads wearing abercrombie and fitch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33195759)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 4:42 AM
Author: Charismatic Brethren

Strangely cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33195911)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 4:43 AM
Author: Salmon hairraiser legend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33195912)



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Date: May 3rd, 2017 9:14 PM
Author: alcoholic boiling water persian



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33224822)



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Date: May 5th, 2017 6:17 AM
Author: Stirring Shrine Pisswyrm

MFCR especially the white people in OC. The Asians and Persians are the same as everywhere else but the middle aged white people are the douchier and more pathetically incapable of any meaningful self reflection than any other place on earth. OC white olds cling to the delusion that a guy can stay cool forever as long he pretends to surf. And the megachurches are flame; they're there mainly to facilitate posturing during white people's divorces.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33235875)



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Date: May 5th, 2017 9:08 AM
Author: soggy citrine place of business

Oddly specific but this sounds accurate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33236162)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 3:06 AM
Author: big resort

And Norcal people look down on that whole region

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33195766)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 3:10 AM
Author: Razzle cerise foreskin location

Ljl at those rice burrito eating AIDS faggots

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33195775)



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Date: May 5th, 2017 7:57 AM
Author: alcoholic boiling water persian



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33235951)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 3:46 AM
Author: Salmon hairraiser legend

lol

NorCal cares about SoCal more than the reverse

It's like how Berkeley students think they're rivals of Stanford whereas Stanford students don't care

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33195846)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 4:44 AM
Author: Charismatic Brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33195914)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 11:20 AM
Author: burgundy people who are hurt kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33196744)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 4:45 AM
Author: Charismatic Brethren

NorCal is "hella" shitty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33195915)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 7:41 AM
Author: Cheese-eating motley dragon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33195997)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 5:18 AM
Author: Cruel-hearted point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33195928)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 12:15 PM
Author: copper whorehouse sex offender

Norcal people are objectively better humans than socal people but they're also faggot so it's kind of a wash.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33197186)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 12:42 PM
Author: burgundy people who are hurt kitchen

NorCal people are nicer , especially the folks in the Central Valley (not so much the Bay Area). But NorCal people are weird af

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33197409)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 1:32 PM
Author: copper whorehouse sex offender

I find norcal people including bay area folk to be more civic and community orientated, educated, open-minded, but smug and elitist. Socal people have more prole tendencies but aren't as our there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33197734)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 1:39 PM
Author: copper whorehouse sex offender

OC/LA are very different but OC people mainly complain about poors, homeless, and parking in re LA.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33197770)



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Date: April 30th, 2017 1:45 PM
Author: soggy citrine place of business

Tbf la mo here and I complain about those as well

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33197800)



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Date: May 3rd, 2017 7:50 PM
Author: cerebral trump supporter patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33224204)



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Date: May 3rd, 2017 8:36 PM
Author: mind-boggling outnumbered school filthpig

Isn't OC all chinks these days?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33224560)



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Date: May 3rd, 2017 9:39 PM
Author: burgundy people who are hurt kitchen

Only Irvine and garden grove

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33224968)



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Date: May 3rd, 2017 8:56 PM
Author: impressive stag film trust fund

This thread is some city-data shit tier discussion.

Very prole.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3599873&forum_id=2#33224696)