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Vox: Democrats are falling for fake news about Russia (180 read)

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/world/2017/5/19/15561842/tr...
well-lubricated round eye
  05/20/17
tldr?
Elite Disturbing Station
  05/20/17
Mensch is quite combative with the press. When I asked her t...
well-lubricated round eye
  05/20/17
CNN, NYT, and WaPo are basically as credible as right-wing c...
lemon up-to-no-good messiness
  05/20/17
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supple national roommate
  05/20/17
That's not how the Vox article ends: "So that’s the ...
Elite Disturbing Station
  05/20/17
that's what it means though. the latest russia claims litera...
lemon up-to-no-good messiness
  05/20/17
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Self-centered abode
  05/20/17
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well-lubricated round eye
  05/20/17
Only a matter of time until someone pulls a move like that p...
Metal voyeur center
  05/20/17
lol that'll be fun
lemon up-to-no-good messiness
  05/20/17
The fear is that this pollutes the party itself, derailing a...
cruel-hearted puce shrine
  05/20/17
That's a BS comparison. A better example of a GOP analog for...
Hateful Vermilion Sneaky Criminal
  05/20/17
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well-lubricated round eye
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stirring grizzly church halford
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Date: May 20th, 2017 2:32 PM
Author: well-lubricated round eye

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/world/2017/5/19/15561842/trump-russia-louise-mensch

It is seriously incredible how dumb and gullible libs are lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3620721&forum_id=2#33352212)



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Date: May 20th, 2017 2:40 PM
Author: Elite Disturbing Station

tldr?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3620721&forum_id=2#33352231)



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Date: May 20th, 2017 2:42 PM
Author: well-lubricated round eye

Mensch is quite combative with the press. When I asked her to email me for this piece, she refused and called me a “dickhead.” But she’s backed up by an array of different figures, who spend a lot of time swapping ideas on Twitter.

One of them is Schindler, the former NSA spook. A former Naval War College professor who resigned in 2014 after a scandal in which he sent a photograph of his penis to a Twitter follower, he thinks Mensch doesn’t get it right all the time. But he does think she was onto the truth about Trump and Russia “long before the MSM cared” (the two have been amiably chatting on Twitter since 2013).

“Louise has no counterintelligence background, nor does she speak Russian or understand the Russians at a professional level, and that makes her analysis hit or miss sometimes,” he told me. “That said, very few people pontificating on Kremlingate have those qualifications, so if that's disqualifying, pretty much everyone but me is out.”

Schindler’s role in the Russiasphere is essentially as a validator, using his time working on Russia at the NSA to make the theories bandied about by Mensch seem credible. Schindler peppers his speech with terms pulled from Russian spycraft — like deza, short for dezinformatsiya (disinformation), or Chekist, a term used to describe the former spies who hold significant political positions in Putin’s Russia.

This lingo has become common among the Russiasphere, a sort of status symbol to show that its members understand the real nature of the threat. Schindler and Mensch will often refer to their enemies in the media and the Trump administration using the hashtag #TeamDeza, or accuse enemies of being Chekists.

These people are feeding BS to shut-in twitter retards like WLMAS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3620721&forum_id=2#33352241)



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Date: May 20th, 2017 2:43 PM
Author: lemon up-to-no-good messiness

CNN, NYT, and WaPo are basically as credible as right-wing conspiracy theory tweetblogs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3620721&forum_id=2#33352246)



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Date: May 20th, 2017 2:44 PM
Author: supple national roommate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3620721&forum_id=2#33352255)



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Date: May 20th, 2017 2:45 PM
Author: Elite Disturbing Station

That's not how the Vox article ends:

"So that’s the key question going forward: Will the mainstreaming of the Russiasphere speed up — and birth something like a Breitbart of the left? If so, it’ll create an environment where the people most willing to say the most absurd things succeed, pulling the entire Democratic Party closer to the edge — and leaving liberals trapped in the same hall of mirrors as conservatives."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3620721&forum_id=2#33352260)



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Date: May 20th, 2017 3:56 PM
Author: lemon up-to-no-good messiness

that's what it means though. the latest russia claims literally come from some unhinged leftwing tweetblog. if the dems don't take a big step back and look at real evidence and instead keep snowballing with these less and less credible "sources", they're basically the same as crazy right wing sites like zerohedge

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3620721&forum_id=2#33352805)



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Date: May 20th, 2017 4:02 PM
Author: Self-centered abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3620721&forum_id=2#33352853)



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Date: May 20th, 2017 3:31 PM
Author: well-lubricated round eye



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3620721&forum_id=2#33352621)



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Date: May 20th, 2017 3:42 PM
Author: Metal voyeur center

Only a matter of time until someone pulls a move like that pizzagate guy did in DC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3620721&forum_id=2#33352700)



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Date: May 20th, 2017 3:58 PM
Author: lemon up-to-no-good messiness

lol that'll be fun

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3620721&forum_id=2#33352818)



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Date: May 20th, 2017 10:45 PM
Author: cruel-hearted puce shrine

The fear is that this pollutes the party itself, derailing and discrediting the legitimate investigation into Russia investigation. It also risks degrading the Democratic Party — helping elevate shameless hucksters who know nothing about policy but are willing to spread misinformation in the service of gaining power. We’ve already seen this story play out on the right, a story that ended in Trump’s election.

cr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3620721&forum_id=2#33355236)



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Date: May 20th, 2017 11:56 PM
Author: Hateful Vermilion Sneaky Criminal

That's a BS comparison. A better example of a GOP analog for the currwnt Dem zeitgeist is Karl Rove.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3620721&forum_id=2#33355811)



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Date: May 20th, 2017 11:28 PM
Author: well-lubricated round eye



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Date: May 20th, 2017 11:50 PM
Author: stirring grizzly church halford



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