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Okay so Paris agreement was really about buying carbon credits from shithole
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Date: June 1st, 2017 5:10 PM Author: thriller chad theatre countries that were never going to produce the carbon in the first place (because they are shitholes). So basically we are paying them to supposedly withhold from developing, which they will of course ignore once development becomes realistic. All so that it looks like we have 180 countries signed on. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33448510) |
Date: June 1st, 2017 5:11 PM Author: Provocative Deranged Striped Hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33448516) |
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Date: June 1st, 2017 5:11 PM Author: at-the-ready well-lubricated french chef cr & also to pad the bank accounts of corrupt euro leaders (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33448519) |
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Date: June 1st, 2017 5:18 PM Author: Sienna sickened mad cow disease marketing idea rat-faced European bureaucrats irate that trump is tightening the spigot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33448576) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 9:16 AM Author: Cerebral ceo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33453786) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 9:51 AM Author: maniacal meetinghouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33453952) |
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Date: June 1st, 2017 5:12 PM Author: Nubile stage boistinker is this true? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33448531) |
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Date: June 1st, 2017 5:13 PM Author: Motley silver market yes earl is a lawyer and this thread is legal advice (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33448536) |
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Date: June 1st, 2017 5:13 PM Author: domesticated citrine mexican stag film (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33448545) |
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Date: June 1st, 2017 5:14 PM Author: hairraiser pontificating scourge upon the earth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33448547) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 12:15 AM Author: razzmatazz splenetic juggernaut (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33452215) |
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Date: June 1st, 2017 5:13 PM Author: hairraiser pontificating scourge upon the earth That is the justification of the transfers, yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33448543) |
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Date: June 1st, 2017 5:14 PM Author: ultramarine tank It's a Ponzi scheme rife with fraud
Let's just package and sell something that cannot be seen, smelt, or measured easily!
Programs like REDD are complete garbage |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 9:23 AM Author: shaky son of senegal brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33453823) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 12:00 AM Author: Idiotic point We're probably going to hit ARE Paris targets anyway (28% decrease in emissions by 2030 or something) thanks to ARE free market principles and a shift away from cole. So we essentially ceded global authority to China for no reason whatsoever, especially considering Paris was non-binding and we'd merely "fail to meet our targets" if we'd have stayed in at worst.
I voted for Trump. God almighty he's a fucking retard. |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 12:06 AM Author: light gas station "So we essentially ceded global authority to China for no reason whatsoever"
flame |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 9:04 AM Author: Idiotic point same with the TPP - who do you think the world is going to increasingly look toward for predictable, stable behavior: the country that can't hold to an agreement from literally one year to the next, or the one that is the source of like 50% of US PhD candidates in STEM fields, that is insanely rich and large, and on the renewables + nukes front they're the trendsetters
oh also they literally make everything for everyone and currently hold the US by the balls re our debt |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 9:20 AM Author: Cerebral ceo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33453803) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 9:50 AM Author: sooty cowardly abode stain All China has to do is stop buying new US debt to cause an economic crisis in the US. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33453941) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 9:55 AM Author: Idiotic point They hold us by the balls because we need them to buy our debt constantly. If they ever stopped, hahaurfucked (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33453970) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 10:03 AM Author: domesticated citrine mexican stag film Old saying: you owe the bank $1000, they own you. You owe the bank a million, you own them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33454045) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 12:19 PM Author: Erotic balding nursing home 600 billion in military spending versus 100 billion. I think we can fend their bankers off for a while... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33455143) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 9:38 AM Author: unholy cruise ship skinny woman LOLOLOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33453871) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 12:18 PM Author: Erotic balding nursing home "who do you think the world is going to increasingly look toward for predictable, stable behavior" why the mother fuck do we care about this? Countries are not children looking for a role model. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33455131) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 12:07 AM Author: Sadistic Police Squad Selfie (guy who follows the rules to fit in) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33452141) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 9:04 AM Author: Idiotic point (guy who still supports trump) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33453718) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 9:36 AM Author: Supple misanthropic resort filthpig So you voted for him even though this is exactly what he said he'd do (repeal Paris and TPP) during the campaign? Is this a joke? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33453867) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 9:54 AM Author: Idiotic point He said a lot of shit. Figured he'd listen to Ivanka's pussy. mumble mumble fuck libs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33453965) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 9:15 AM Author: Stimulating private investor heaven Yeah, I saw some presentation on this and China has earmarked over a trillion usd towards renewables and is building a massive green energy grid larger than the entire US electricity grid. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33453777) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 9:47 AM Author: Provocative Deranged Striped Hyena Renewables will be all over the place and already are in many parts of the US. Wind JUST became profitable without subsidies this year. Over the next decade you will see PV solar pop up everywhere because it's finally affordable.
American companies are investing in battery storage for energy distribution, but all its useful for at this point is for stablizing transmission frequencies and holding power for a very short period of time.
Fossil plants will be a necessary part of the mix for at least a few more decades until battery storage technologies can catch up. There's no power when the sun is gone!
As for transportation, I don't know what we're going to do there. EVs seem alright, and will get better as batteries improve.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2016/03/29/world/29CHINAAIR-web1/29CHINAAIR-web1-master675.jpg OH CHINA, What a bastion of cleanliness! |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 9:54 AM Author: maniacal meetinghouse Yeah, it's really a shame that we can't fit in with a bunch of nigger, slant, spic, and Euro trash countries. What a tragedy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33453961) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 12:10 AM Author: Clear glittery hell It's lol that Trumpmos have gone to the only defensible position for pulling out of this, i.e. the cash transfers. But we spent like $1-3 bill last year on this? It's a drop in the bucket, even compared to our relatively small foreign aid program, much less our budget. Does that really warrant this much policy consideration? Trumpmos want it both ways: the "agreement" had no teeth and was just symbolic so doesn't matter! But Trump is 180 for pulling us out of a symbolic agreement! Oh.. that doesn't make sense.. actually it's just saving us money! 180! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33452178) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 9:10 AM Author: dashing national security agency The amount was going to be $100 billion and by 2020 would be $450 billion. Not to mention lost jobs and GDP due to the restrictions. Still just a "drop in the bucket?" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33453746) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 9:38 AM Author: Supple misanthropic resort filthpig It doesn't matter. It's a program and you can't cancel democrat programs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33453873) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 9:48 AM Author: sapphire multi-colored set doctorate This is total bullshit. US's total commitment was $3 billion LUMP SUM (of which the US already gave $1 billion from money that was already earmarked to development aid). Neither the US nor any other country committed to give $100 billion per year. That was just a meaningless fundraising goal, and most of it was supposed to come from voluntary donations from corporations and charities.
"The fund was set up in 2010 with the aspirational goal of raising money from rich countries and using it to fund projects in poor countries. By 2020, the UN hopes $100 billion will be redistributed in this way each year. (If you count only money from governments, we’re not on track to meet that goal right now; if you count investments by private corporations, the picture looks a little better.) The Green Climate Fund is meant to play a key role in facilitating those efforts, but only has attracted $10.3 billion in pledges from rich countries — $2 billion of which Trump likely won’t deliver."
https://www.undispatch.com/united-states-bailing-green-climate-fund-heres-thats-bad-idea/
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 9:58 AM Author: dashing national security agency Oh I see, so $100 billion total from other countries into the fund, not just the US. I misunderstood. Thank. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33454003) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 10:00 AM Author: sapphire multi-colored set doctorate No, you idiot. There was literally no commitment from the US for any ongoing amount of money in the Paris Agreement.
Go ahead and find where we committed to give any money on an ongoing basis to the Green Climate Fund, you moron:
https://unfccc.int/files/meetings/paris_nov_2015/application/pdf/paris_agreement_english_.pdf |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 10:03 AM Author: dashing national security agency Then who cares (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33454051) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 12:21 PM Author: sapphire multi-colored set doctorate The point is that the Paris Agreement wasn't really about monetary contributions to developing countries. It was about the greenhouse gas reduction targets. That's the only part that actually meant anything. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33455170) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 12:23 PM Author: dashing national security agency The countries that really need to either already are or were under no obligation to do so until 2030. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33455183) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 9:39 AM Author: Doobsian Theater Stage Elastic Band We need to get the rest of the world used to the idea we're not gonna go along with feel-good bullshit just to get our dicks sucked in public statements (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33453874) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 10:02 AM Author: Slate Spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33454031) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 11:53 AM Author: Clear glittery hell Got it. So Krugman was right. It's just about spite. Trump got his feelings hurt by Europeans last week. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33454890) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 12:15 PM Author: Arousing slap-happy locale haha dude you are so gay (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33455096) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 9:51 AM Author: Sexy church building It's symbolic for everyone else, but you can be assured American shitlibs will do everything they can to force compliance (for the US, only, of course.) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33453948) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 9:24 AM Author: wonderful flatulent tattoo personal credit line It was an embarrassingly bad bargain for the US. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33453826) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 9:30 AM Author: Stimulating private investor heaven We are paying them? Who is we? Western corporations or the US government? That money will ultimately go towards financing green tech infrastructure and now that the US is out, China and EU businesses will get the bulk of those contracts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33453844) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 9:36 AM Author: shaky son of senegal brunch Good, each region/country should be responsible for their own green infrastructure
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 9:46 AM Author: dashing national security agency lol you think we won't develop anything on our own? You think they wouldn't jump to buy something we developed if it was efficient and cost-saving enough? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33453907) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 9:47 AM Author: unholy cruise ship skinny woman lmao 18000000000 trolling (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33453916) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 9:56 AM Author: maniacal meetinghouse Oh no! Fewer US companies sucking on the government teet! What a tragedy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33453976) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 12:10 PM Author: bonkers party of the first part trump supporter US clean tech industry has boomed and emissions reductions have been happening without us signing onto any global agreement. Why would this change now? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33455027) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 12:14 PM Author: Impertinent ruby dysfunction gaming laptop It's almost like Obama wanted to weaken the USA... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33455084) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2017 12:16 PM Author: Arousing slap-happy locale It's bizarre how libs and cucks deny this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3633298&forum_id=2#33455103) |