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Date: June 21st, 2017 3:01 AM Author: Frum sepia stead
"Injury was largely confined to the CA1 layer of the hippocampus.": hippocampus is especially sensitive to oxygen deprivation and atrophies in hypoxic state.
"In both experimental models two types of cell change were prominent: coagulative cell change which was restricted to neurons, and edematous cell change which was largely confined to astrocytes.": neurons clump together, while a non-neuronal type of cells called astrocytes swell in hypoxia.
"Studies on cerebral microcirculation revealed a close relationship between areas of reduced flow and areas with structural damage. Cytochemical demonstration of subcellular calcium indicated an early and important redistribution of this cation, indicative for toxic calcium overload in the cytosol.": you see higher than normal levels of calcium inside cells.
It is true that the prolonged coma could make pathologic analysis difficult, but as the quoted pathologist says, an autopsy could have led to either positive information confirming a cause, or negative information to rule out botulism, etc.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607448) |
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Date: June 21st, 2017 2:40 AM Author: Pale hairless voyeur resort
it's their MO
they could have come up with a bunch of much more plausible stories than the crazy and obviously untrue story about the church/used car payment, for example, which seems like it was developed by a low-level propaganda worker who just jumbled a bunch of words together without actually understanding how western culture operates
the botulism "explanation" has that same tint of surrealism
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33607399) |
Date: June 25th, 2017 1:50 AM Author: Apoplectic Grizzly Preventive Strike
Why make up a botulism story and sleeping pill scenario if this were true?
I call bullshit.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635528) |
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Date: June 25th, 2017 1:53 AM Author: Apoplectic Grizzly Preventive Strike
I think he was oxygen deprived, but I don't think it was self-inflicted.
This whole "no autopsy to avoid embarrassment" wouldn't rule out torture or self-inflicted.
The family probably doesn't need to know more than what they already do. An autopsy 18 months later wouldn't get them any more closure than not having one at this point.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635543) |
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Date: June 25th, 2017 2:22 AM Author: Apoplectic Grizzly Preventive Strike
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_serum
"Use by country[edit]
North Korea[edit]
North Korea is alleged by retired US Army intelligence officer Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer to have used Sodium Pentothal on Otto Warmbier. Shaffer believes mental degredation was caused by overuse of the compound. North Korea blamed the condition on use of a sleeping pill and botulism"
That would explain the rationale for toxicity and brain chemistry that they were afraid would be uncovered. Also explains Warmbier's zombie like appearance at court.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3653869&forum_id=2#33635630) |
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