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Forget calculus, algebra I needs to be retired as a college requirement. [LAT]

How necessary is intermediate algebra, a high school-level c...
laughsome low-t spot
  07/02/17
half the college curriculum needs to go
salmon range
  11/04/17
"intermediate" algebra sounds a lot like HS Algebr...
Mauve house
  07/02/17
http://www.smc.edu/AcademicPrograms/Mathematics/Documents/Co...
laughsome low-t spot
  07/02/17
Look at all of that patriarchy.
Mauve house
  07/02/17
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Appetizing Primrose Messiness
  07/18/17
Damn i can't remember how to do some of this. I'm gonna be u...
racy sick half-breed chapel
  07/18/17
But gender studies is a must take course, right?
Bistre tripping factory reset button mediation
  07/02/17
keep talking shit about gender theory
Insecure sneaky criminal nowag
  01/11/18
Doesn't stats use algebra too? What about the big push for e...
Embarrassed to the bone area
  07/02/17
Anyone going to a California public school is never going to...
Bistre tripping factory reset button mediation
  07/02/17
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Stirring pearly property
  11/08/17
This is why we need a "vocational track".
Soul-stirring Walnut Philosopher-king
  07/02/17
This is why Idiocracy was a 180 as fuck movie.
Bistre tripping factory reset button mediation
  07/02/17
Good luck with that in an age of automation, bro. Gazprom ha...
Bistre tripping factory reset button mediation
  07/02/17
I knew shit was going to get bad when they stopped teaching ...
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  07/02/17
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  07/02/17
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  07/02/17
i LOL'd
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  07/18/17
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In the computer age, who needs cursive.
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  01/11/18
For shitliberal arts kids who will take only one math course...
magenta mischievous alpha
  07/02/17
You generally cant get a liberal arts degree without 1 math ...
Bistre tripping factory reset button mediation
  07/02/17
Guess you're right. It's just so basic to most of us that it...
magenta mischievous alpha
  07/02/17
If you can't do algebra you aren't doing shit.
laughsome low-t spot
  07/02/17
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Glittery ceo parlor
  11/08/17
They wouldn't be smart enough for stats, either. You think t...
lemon circlehead
  07/18/17
lmao most people at my school took algebra in middle school ...
Abnormal Party Of The First Part
  07/02/17
i had algebra in 8th grade and calc BC in HS and I feel only...
Startled bateful toilet seat
  07/02/17
Don't be shy, the phrase "extremely average" shows...
laughsome low-t spot
  07/02/17
Hey bro how'd your math degree from UT work out for you? You...
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  07/02/17
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I flat out told my high school algebra teacher that I was ne...
sexy carmine new version
  07/02/17
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-california-communit...
laughsome low-t spot
  07/18/17
Algebra legitimately arises in ordinary professional and sem...
lemon circlehead
  07/18/17
Twist: they all should be doing vocational training
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Cheese-eating Wrinkle
  01/11/18
can't remember the last time algebra or calculus was useful ...
Ultramarine arousing piazza
  07/18/17
You've never calculated accrual of interest over time or ask...
lemon circlehead
  07/18/17
they have web calculators for that
Ultramarine arousing piazza
  07/18/17
Dumbs wouldn't even know how to frame the issue and ask the ...
lemon circlehead
  07/18/17
how are they going to do their chemistry and physics classes...
jet-lagged senate
  07/18/17
Tools of the cishetero patriarchy.
lemon circlehead
  07/18/17
"Back in the 1950s, Chuck Berry recorded 'School Days,'...
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  07/30/17
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  11/04/17
Now listening to chuck berry all morning thank
Stirring pearly property
  11/08/17
Good. A college degree will become a stigma.
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  07/30/17
Makes sense. College is basically HS at this point. We need ...
Umber Odious Main People
  07/30/17
That's not David Lat
High-end Fantasy-prone Trust Fund
  07/30/17
Teaching a pig to sing exasperates you and annoys the pig. G...
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  07/30/17
Lol, it makes me mad that this shit is not on the SAT. It's ...
Shimmering box office
  07/30/17
"A good high school algebra course prepares you to do v...
Ultramarine arousing piazza
  08/10/17
"Pre-algebra is the culmination of the math that averag...
Ultramarine arousing piazza
  11/04/17
"I never use one of algebra's most famous formulas, the...
Ultramarine arousing piazza
  11/04/17
Almost all the "math" I run across is not really e...
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  11/04/17
Depends on whether you subscribe to the classic definition o...
internet-worthy idiotic lodge
  11/04/17
According to this book, applied math basically falls into th...
Ultramarine arousing piazza
  11/19/17
I have a math degree so I am as big a partisan of mathematic...
internet-worthy idiotic lodge
  11/04/17
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supple disturbing university
  11/04/17
Then they should drop algebra to do more literacy.
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  11/04/17
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supple disturbing university
  11/04/17
why not throw out all hard science while we're at it, probab...
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  11/04/17
I don't see whats wrong with someone who goes to college wan...
internet-worthy idiotic lodge
  11/04/17
so we're letting junior high kids pick their majors and care...
Grizzly principal's office
  11/04/17
If college was about people only studying what they might us...
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  11/04/17
Might be more useful to them in terms of getting a job than ...
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  11/04/17
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I think the Germans do education very well with their system...
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supple disturbing university
  11/04/17
Germans respect blue collar work, dumbass.
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  11/08/17
The idea of general ed requirements in a degree would seem q...
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  11/04/17
he's right about rote memorization
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  11/08/17
If you’re learning math via rote memorization you’re doing i...
Stirring pearly property
  11/08/17
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  11/08/17
People would be better off learning things like personal fin...
Ultramarine arousing piazza
  11/08/17
Those wanting to review their pre-algebra may want to check ...
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  01/11/18
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  01/11/18
SUN'S UP, A LITTLE AFTER TWELVE MAKE BREAKFAST FOR MYSELF ...
Ultramarine arousing piazza
  01/11/18
what's the answer to the polynomial simplification in the ar...
Duck-like corner toaster
  01/11/18
[5(x-3)]/[x^2(y+6)], I think
Curious twinkling uncleanness dragon
  01/11/18
Libs won’t be happy until all real learning is canned in fav...
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  01/11/18
"Libs" "happy"
Ultramarine arousing piazza
  01/11/18
Math is one of the fundamental keys to understanding the wor...
Red godawful rigpig
  01/11/18
yep
Ultramarine arousing piazza
  01/11/18
I hated linear algebra and multivariable calculus, but its a...
Electric Gold Hall Coldplay Fan
  01/11/18
yep sounds pretty practical
Ultramarine arousing piazza
  01/11/18
For many, college needs to be retired as a requirement.
lemon circlehead
  04/20/18


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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:06 AM
Author: laughsome low-t spot

How necessary is intermediate algebra, a high school-level course on factoring trinomials, graphing exponential functions and memorizing formulas that most non-math or science students will rarely use in everyday life or for the rest of college?

http://www.latimes.com/local/education/la-me-intermediate-algebra-qa-20170630-htmlstory.html

"Diversity" leading to dumbing down of life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687803)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 5:48 AM
Author: salmon range

half the college curriculum needs to go

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601502)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:13 AM
Author: Mauve house

"intermediate" algebra sounds a lot like HS Algebra I.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687806)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:15 AM
Author: laughsome low-t spot

http://www.smc.edu/AcademicPrograms/Mathematics/Documents/Course_Documents/M20_Final_Rev.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687807)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:39 AM
Author: Mauve house

Look at all of that patriarchy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687825)



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Date: July 18th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: Appetizing Primrose Messiness



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Date: July 18th, 2017 1:57 AM
Author: racy sick half-breed chapel

Damn i can't remember how to do some of this. I'm gonna be useless by the time my kids are taking this shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33799943)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:36 AM
Author: Bistre tripping factory reset button mediation

But gender studies is a must take course, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687820)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 8:03 AM
Author: Insecure sneaky criminal nowag

keep talking shit about gender theory

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35131178)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:47 AM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone area

Doesn't stats use algebra too? What about the big push for every minority to be "coding"? If you can't do basic algebra, you don't have a prayer of being able to code an app.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687830)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:53 AM
Author: Bistre tripping factory reset button mediation

Anyone going to a California public school is never going to do CS in the first place. It's all Mexicans now. They just need classes in custodial studies and security guard certification prep.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687832)



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Date: November 8th, 2017 10:09 AM
Author: Stirring pearly property



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:54 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Walnut Philosopher-king

This is why we need a "vocational track".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687833)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:54 AM
Author: Bistre tripping factory reset button mediation

This is why Idiocracy was a 180 as fuck movie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687834)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:58 AM
Author: Bistre tripping factory reset button mediation

Good luck with that in an age of automation, bro. Gazprom has a new undersea welding robot that's going to put 99% of its underwater welders out of a job. Underwater welding was like a $100 an hour gig. Every remotely decent vocational gig is going to a robot in the next 30 years.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687839)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:56 AM
Author: Bistre tripping factory reset button mediation

I knew shit was going to get bad when they stopped teaching kids cursive so now we have a whole generation that cant even sign their own names with a freakin pen properly. Kids who couldnt bother to learn cursive cant be bothered to learn quadratic equations. Shit is a slippery slope. Meanwhile in China they come out of HS knowing more math than ARE math majors. LJL at America's future.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687837)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:57 AM
Author: laughsome low-t spot

DESCRIBE russian cursive

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Date: July 2nd, 2017 8:12 AM
Author: Mauve house

http://i.imgur.com/OxRbnYU.jpg

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Date: July 2nd, 2017 9:11 AM
Author: Startled bateful toilet seat

i LOL'd

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Date: July 2nd, 2017 9:12 AM
Author: laughsome low-t spot



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Date: July 18th, 2017 3:21 AM
Author: Nofapping Pale Site People Who Are Hurt



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:46 AM
Author: opaque bawdyhouse

180

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Date: January 11th, 2018 4:54 AM
Author: Cheese-eating Wrinkle



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Date: January 11th, 2018 4:57 AM
Author: Curious twinkling uncleanness dragon

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35130836)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 7:46 AM
Author: flushed theatre french chef



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Date: January 11th, 2018 1:48 PM
Author: Violent mewling temple famous landscape painting

In the computer age, who needs cursive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35132756)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:58 AM
Author: magenta mischievous alpha

For shitliberal arts kids who will take only one math course, an equally rigorous stats course would be a better alternative, I think. It can really lend a lot of insight into life, and it might actually better prepare them to see though some of the bs they'll be served up in other classes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687840)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 8:00 AM
Author: Bistre tripping factory reset button mediation

You generally cant get a liberal arts degree without 1 math course (usually Calc I) and stats. Stats is a requirement even at most TTT colleges. You cant do your senior thesis is most majors without stats and usually econometrics on top of stats 101. This is why doing away with Algebra I is retarded. You cant do stats 101 without Algebra I.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687842)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 8:05 AM
Author: magenta mischievous alpha

Guess you're right. It's just so basic to most of us that it's hard to believe the some kids need to taught it in college

Edit: OTOH, don't most of them have this under their belt, but they're too dumb to place into calc or even precalc, so they get relegated to repeating a high school course.

Most ttt schools I'm familiar with don't require stats for non social science majors

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687844)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 8:04 AM
Author: laughsome low-t spot

If you can't do algebra you aren't doing shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687843)



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Date: November 8th, 2017 10:29 AM
Author: Glittery ceo parlor



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Date: July 18th, 2017 1:27 AM
Author: lemon circlehead

They wouldn't be smart enough for stats, either. You think they'll be able to grasp basic conditional probability?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33799840)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 9:00 AM
Author: Abnormal Party Of The First Part

lmao most people at my school took algebra in middle school

sad!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687921)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 9:15 AM
Author: Startled bateful toilet seat

i had algebra in 8th grade and calc BC in HS and I feel only extremely average in my MAFF skills

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687956)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 9:16 AM
Author: laughsome low-t spot

Don't be shy, the phrase "extremely average" shows you are a mathematical fool. HTH.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687960)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 9:18 AM
Author: Motley gunner telephone

Hey bro how'd your math degree from UT work out for you? You're probably at some hedge fund or something right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687965)



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Date: July 18th, 2017 2:14 AM
Author: heady resort mexican

lmao brutal

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Date: July 18th, 2017 3:06 AM
Author: gay bisexual stead trump supporter



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Date: November 8th, 2017 10:11 AM
Author: Stirring pearly property

lmao

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Date: January 11th, 2018 7:48 AM
Author: khaki meetinghouse water buffalo



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 9:46 AM
Author: sexy carmine new version

I flat out told my high school algebra teacher that I was never going to use this shit so why were they making me learn it.

Today, in my white collar non-STEM office job, I regularly have to solve for X and use basic algebra.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33688030)



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Date: July 18th, 2017 12:49 AM
Author: laughsome low-t spot

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-california-community-colleges-algebra-20170717-story.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33799570)



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Date: July 18th, 2017 1:25 AM
Author: lemon circlehead

Algebra legitimately arises in ordinary professional and semi-professional life (e.g., solving for an unknown, working with interest rates).

If you can't do basic algebra (which is what they're really talking about), then the degree shouldn't be called a college degree of any sort.

It also happens that algebra requires the ability to engage in formal, abstract thought, which is precisely one of the things we expect a "college" graduate to be able to do.

If you can't do that, what you're learning is either worthless or should be called vocational training.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33799830)



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Date: July 18th, 2017 3:16 AM
Author: Deranged dark tanning salon bbw

Twist: they all should be doing vocational training

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33800121)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 4:55 AM
Author: Cheese-eating Wrinkle



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Date: July 18th, 2017 1:27 AM
Author: Ultramarine arousing piazza

can't remember the last time algebra or calculus was useful to me. better to learn stuff like personal finance and business, the legal system, healthcare, auto mechanics.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33799842)



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Date: July 18th, 2017 1:32 AM
Author: lemon circlehead

You've never calculated accrual of interest over time or asked what rate you'll need to reach a goal? You've never solved for an unknown?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33799877)



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Date: July 18th, 2017 1:43 AM
Author: Ultramarine arousing piazza

they have web calculators for that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33799926)



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Date: July 18th, 2017 2:25 AM
Author: lemon circlehead

Dumbs wouldn't even know how to frame the issue and ask the question.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33800024)



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Date: July 18th, 2017 3:11 AM
Author: jet-lagged senate

how are they going to do their chemistry and physics classes without basic algebra?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33800112)



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Date: July 18th, 2017 3:39 AM
Author: lemon circlehead

Tools of the cishetero patriarchy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33800147)



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Date: July 30th, 2017 8:57 PM
Author: Ultramarine arousing piazza

"Back in the 1950s, Chuck Berry recorded 'School Days,' a song about the life of a typical high school student. It included the lines 'American history, practical math, you studyin' hard and hopin' to pass.' Practical math back then was a bedrock course in American high schools. You can still find courses in practical math today, but mostly in vocational or trade schools."

"What happened to practical math? The one-word answer is Sputnik. The threat from advanced technology developed by the Soviet Union created a fear of a missile gap, and the powers that be decided that a concerted effort should be made to push engineering, science, and math. Engineering and science use advanced math, and algebra is the language of advanced math. In an attempt to respond to the technological challenge of Sputnik, practical math got phased out, and algebra got phased in."

-The Smart Guide to Practical Math, by Jim Stein (2015)

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Date: July 30th, 2017 9:48 PM
Author: Aqua nibblets



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:15 AM
Author: Mind-boggling chartreuse travel guidebook jap



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Date: November 8th, 2017 10:13 AM
Author: Stirring pearly property

Now listening to chuck berry all morning thank

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Date: July 30th, 2017 9:50 PM
Author: Concupiscible at-the-ready school cafeteria prole

Good. A college degree will become a stigma.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33887479)



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Date: July 30th, 2017 9:57 PM
Author: Umber Odious Main People

Makes sense. College is basically HS at this point. We need to cater to the lowest common denominator. Unfortunately.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33887508)



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Date: July 30th, 2017 10:06 PM
Author: High-end Fantasy-prone Trust Fund

That's not David Lat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33887554)



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Date: July 30th, 2017 10:42 PM
Author: ruddy nighttime depressive office

Teaching a pig to sing exasperates you and annoys the pig. Good riddance, dumbs only slow down the smart kids who want to learn. And like I have said before there is a huge gap between being able to "solve for x" on a test and being able to identify and formulate a real life problem in algebraic terms.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33887846)



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Date: July 30th, 2017 10:46 PM
Author: Shimmering box office

Lol, it makes me mad that this shit is not on the SAT. It's basically a bunch of middle school level word problems, so you're ONE WRONG ARITHMETIC ERROR away from a 740.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33887888)



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Date: August 10th, 2017 1:08 PM
Author: Ultramarine arousing piazza

"A good high school algebra course prepares you to do very well on the SAT test so that you can get into the college of your choice. It also helps you deal with problems involving trains headed toward each other at different speeds and their subsequent fates."

"And just to be as direct as possible about the shortcomings of traditional algebra course content, it's quite typical that even the better students aren't able to make basic financing decisions later. They can solve lots of goofy artificial problems about trains, but they can't tell when changes in interest rates mean that they should think about a mortgage refinance, and they believe amazing and fantastically contradictory probability results."

-Everyday Math for Dummies, by Charles Seiter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33957084)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:00 AM
Author: Ultramarine arousing piazza

"Pre-algebra is the culmination of the math that average people really use."

-The Complete Idiot's Guide to Pre-Algebra, by Szczepanski and Kositsky

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601204)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:02 AM
Author: Ultramarine arousing piazza

"I never use one of algebra's most famous formulas, the quadratic formula, except when I'm teaching class. You certainly can find ways to use algebra and higher math in your everyday life if you try hard enough, but unless you're in a career that uses numbers, you can probably get away with avoiding it."

-ibid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601209)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:26 AM
Author: internet-worthy idiotic lodge

Almost all the "math" I run across is not really even math, its just arithmetic. Stuff like calculating the present value of future payments.

The most complicated math I have EVER encountered as a lawyer are the various formulas for valuing options (e.g. Black-Scholes PDEs).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601303)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:32 AM
Author: supple disturbing university



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601313)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:35 AM
Author: internet-worthy idiotic lodge

Depends on whether you subscribe to the classic definition of a college education or regard it as more like four years of training for the modern job market.

That classic education used to involve Latin/Greek and stuff like rhetoric and philosophy and I don't think they are requirements anymore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601321)



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Date: November 19th, 2017 12:19 PM
Author: Ultramarine arousing piazza

According to this book, applied math basically falls into three categories:

1. basic arithmetic, used routinely everyday, usually with a 4-function calculator

2. vocational math for skilled trades like electricians and construction work

3. the math used in scientific and technical fields

There arguably could be fourth category for business, financial and investing math.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34723229)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:21 AM
Author: internet-worthy idiotic lodge

I have a math degree so I am as big a partisan of mathematics and mathematical education as anyone but I don't really see the point of making algebra a compulsory subject for college.

Why make people who will very likely never ever use it study it? Wouldn't they be better off studying something that they might use?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601296)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:25 AM
Author: supple disturbing university



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601301)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:29 AM
Author: internet-worthy idiotic lodge

Then they should drop algebra to do more literacy.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601307)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:43 AM
Author: supple disturbing university



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601339)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:33 AM
Author: Grizzly principal's office

why not throw out all hard science while we're at it, probably less than 2% of high school grads use chemistry or physics or bio

and why teach literature, just keep all english education to composition

and who "uses" history anyways

you learn things in high school not just b/c they're valuable but b/c we value them as a culture, or b/c it's important to "teach kids how to think" (e.g. scientifically or mathematically), or b/c they're necessary to move onto higher level work in that discipline, and it's valuable to teach kids those things to give them a chance to proceed to higher-level work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601318)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:37 AM
Author: internet-worthy idiotic lodge

I don't see whats wrong with someone who goes to college wanting to be say, an English teacher, not having to study any STEM subjects.

Just as if you want to be a mathematician why should you be forced to do anything other than mathematics? Why be forced to do some BS liberal arts subjects as fillers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601325)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:44 AM
Author: Grizzly principal's office

so we're letting junior high kids pick their majors and careers now?

you didn't read my post. "usefulness" isn't the only reason we teach kids things. idgaf if a mathematician knows the details of the battle of hastings or remembers much shakespeare but he should be culturally-aware and should be taught to express himself effectively. and idgaf if an english prof knows how to do matrix algebra but he should be forced to do math beyond what he might find "immediately useful" to learn to think mathematically and analytically, and god forbid we should expose him as a middle school student to valuable knowledge that he might enjoy and want to continue with.

exposure to new areas of knowledge and testing kids' intellectual limits is an important part of pre-college ed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601340)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 8:10 AM
Author: Red godawful rigpig

If college was about people only studying what they might use it would be two semesters max.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35131196)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:36 AM
Author: anal point ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601323)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:38 AM
Author: internet-worthy idiotic lodge

Might be more useful to them in terms of getting a job than wasting four years on "communications", "gender theory" or "business studies".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601329)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:39 AM
Author: anal point ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601332)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:41 AM
Author: internet-worthy idiotic lodge

I think the Germans do education very well with their system of technical tertiary education. Some of the more technical trades do require a decent brain.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601336)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:41 AM
Author: supple disturbing university



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601337)



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Date: November 8th, 2017 10:14 AM
Author: stimulating electric furnace jewess

Germans respect blue collar work, dumbass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34633579)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 5:35 AM
Author: Deranged dark tanning salon bbw

The idea of general ed requirements in a degree would seem quite odd in most countries. The broad part of your education should be over after 18.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601484)



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Date: November 8th, 2017 10:10 AM
Author: Tan Institution Fortuitous Meteor

he's right about rote memorization

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34633558)



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Date: November 8th, 2017 10:16 AM
Author: Stirring pearly property

If you’re learning math via rote memorization you’re doing it wrong. You learn math by solving problems. Rote memorization is for biology.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34633593)



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Date: November 8th, 2017 10:18 AM
Author: Tan Institution Fortuitous Meteor

Cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34633603)



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Date: November 8th, 2017 11:55 AM
Author: Ultramarine arousing piazza

People would be better off learning things like personal finance, the legal system, health care, auto repair, home maintenance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34634448)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 4:34 AM
Author: Ultramarine arousing piazza

Those wanting to review their pre-algebra may want to check out Math Doesn't Suck: How to Survive Middle School Math without Losing Your Mind or Breaking a Nail, by Danica McKellar. The author is an actress who I haven't heard of but she's been in some TV shows. The book is aimed at tween girls and is written in a chatty, informal way that some people might find helpful. Pre-algebra is basically fractions, decimals, and percents, and some related topics like unit conversions, proportions, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35130808)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 4:36 AM
Author: laughsome low-t spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35130812)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 4:46 AM
Author: Ultramarine arousing piazza

SUN'S UP, A LITTLE AFTER TWELVE

MAKE BREAKFAST FOR MYSELF

LEAVE THE WORK FOR SOMEONE ELSE

PEOPLE SAY, THEY SAY THAT IT'S JUST A PHASE

THEY TELL ME TO ACT MY AGE, WELL I AAAAAAAMMM!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35130825)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 4:47 AM
Author: Duck-like corner toaster

what's the answer to the polynomial simplification in the article?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35130828)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 8:14 AM
Author: Curious twinkling uncleanness dragon

[5(x-3)]/[x^2(y+6)], I think

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35131209)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 7:59 AM
Author: Spruce Razzle Kitchen

Libs won’t be happy until all real learning is canned in favor of indoctrination and tranny/minority studies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35131165)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 1:41 PM
Author: Ultramarine arousing piazza

"Libs"

"happy"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35132700)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 8:08 AM
Author: Red godawful rigpig

Math is one of the fundamental keys to understanding the world.

Most people also don't need to know about the Golgi Apparatus or inert gasses in their everyday lives either. Should we cut biology and chemistry too?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35131188)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 1:39 PM
Author: Ultramarine arousing piazza

yep

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35132684)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 1:53 PM
Author: Electric Gold Hall Coldplay Fan

I hated linear algebra and multivariable calculus, but its actually pretty practical for statistics, machine learning, things like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35132783)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 2:04 PM
Author: Ultramarine arousing piazza

yep sounds pretty practical

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35132906)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 10:45 PM
Author: lemon circlehead

For many, college needs to be retired as a requirement.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35886039)