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Forget calculus, algebra I needs to be retired as a college requirement. [LAT]

How necessary is intermediate algebra, a high school-level c...
mentally impaired parlor
  07/02/17
half the college curriculum needs to go
diverse chapel twinkling uncleanness
  11/04/17
"intermediate" algebra sounds a lot like HS Algebr...
geriatric bateful yarmulke
  07/02/17
http://www.smc.edu/AcademicPrograms/Mathematics/Documents/Co...
mentally impaired parlor
  07/02/17
Look at all of that patriarchy.
geriatric bateful yarmulke
  07/02/17
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arousing maize hospital
  07/18/17
Damn i can't remember how to do some of this. I'm gonna be u...
costumed temple sneaky criminal
  07/18/17
But gender studies is a must take course, right?
Aromatic Area
  07/02/17
keep talking shit about gender theory
Fragrant circlehead
  01/11/18
Doesn't stats use algebra too? What about the big push for e...
pink racy volcanic crater heaven
  07/02/17
Anyone going to a California public school is never going to...
Aromatic Area
  07/02/17
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Coral cheese-eating lodge
  11/08/17
This is why we need a "vocational track".
mint indirect expression
  07/02/17
This is why Idiocracy was a 180 as fuck movie.
Aromatic Area
  07/02/17
Good luck with that in an age of automation, bro. Gazprom ha...
Aromatic Area
  07/02/17
I knew shit was going to get bad when they stopped teaching ...
Aromatic Area
  07/02/17
DESCRIBE russian cursive
mentally impaired parlor
  07/02/17
http://i.imgur.com/OxRbnYU.jpg
geriatric bateful yarmulke
  07/02/17
i LOL'd
supple metal kitchen
  07/02/17
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mentally impaired parlor
  07/02/17
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outnumbered gas station
  07/18/17
180
White fiercely-loyal office
  11/04/17
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Spectacular Bull Headed Lettuce
  01/11/18
lmao
exhilarant faggot firefighter
  01/11/18
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Laughsome property wagecucks
  01/11/18
In the computer age, who needs cursive.
Anal Zippy Shitlib
  01/11/18
For shitliberal arts kids who will take only one math course...
aphrodisiac whorehouse mad cow disease
  07/02/17
You generally cant get a liberal arts degree without 1 math ...
Aromatic Area
  07/02/17
Guess you're right. It's just so basic to most of us that it...
aphrodisiac whorehouse mad cow disease
  07/02/17
If you can't do algebra you aren't doing shit.
mentally impaired parlor
  07/02/17
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razzle-dazzle stag film roommate
  11/08/17
They wouldn't be smart enough for stats, either. You think t...
Galvanic federal spot
  07/18/17
lmao most people at my school took algebra in middle school ...
black hominid
  07/02/17
i had algebra in 8th grade and calc BC in HS and I feel only...
supple metal kitchen
  07/02/17
Don't be shy, the phrase "extremely average" shows...
mentally impaired parlor
  07/02/17
Hey bro how'd your math degree from UT work out for you? You...
Angry learning disabled indian lodge potus
  07/02/17
lmao brutal
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  07/18/17
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  07/18/17
lmao
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  11/08/17
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I flat out told my high school algebra teacher that I was ne...
french citrine stage pervert
  07/02/17
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-california-communit...
mentally impaired parlor
  07/18/17
Algebra legitimately arises in ordinary professional and sem...
Galvanic federal spot
  07/18/17
Twist: they all should be doing vocational training
emerald titillating mad-dog skullcap
  07/18/17
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Spectacular Bull Headed Lettuce
  01/11/18
can't remember the last time algebra or calculus was useful ...
Milky plaza preventive strike
  07/18/17
You've never calculated accrual of interest over time or ask...
Galvanic federal spot
  07/18/17
they have web calculators for that
Milky plaza preventive strike
  07/18/17
Dumbs wouldn't even know how to frame the issue and ask the ...
Galvanic federal spot
  07/18/17
how are they going to do their chemistry and physics classes...
glassy mischievous messiness mental disorder
  07/18/17
Tools of the cishetero patriarchy.
Galvanic federal spot
  07/18/17
"Back in the 1950s, Chuck Berry recorded 'School Days,'...
Milky plaza preventive strike
  07/30/17
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erotic dashing parlour
  07/30/17
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Insanely creepy fuchsia mood garrison
  11/04/17
Now listening to chuck berry all morning thank
Coral cheese-eating lodge
  11/08/17
Good. A college degree will become a stigma.
Bossy regret coldplay fan
  07/30/17
Makes sense. College is basically HS at this point. We need ...
fluffy bat-shit-crazy organic girlfriend nowag
  07/30/17
That's not David Lat
Stimulating Party Of The First Part Point
  07/30/17
Teaching a pig to sing exasperates you and annoys the pig. G...
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  07/30/17
Lol, it makes me mad that this shit is not on the SAT. It's ...
honey-headed multi-billionaire
  07/30/17
"A good high school algebra course prepares you to do v...
Milky plaza preventive strike
  08/10/17
"Pre-algebra is the culmination of the math that averag...
Milky plaza preventive strike
  11/04/17
"I never use one of algebra's most famous formulas, the...
Milky plaza preventive strike
  11/04/17
Almost all the "math" I run across is not really e...
Lime Stirring Telephone Range
  11/04/17
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Lake Heady Queen Of The Night Box Office
  11/04/17
Depends on whether you subscribe to the classic definition o...
Lime Stirring Telephone Range
  11/04/17
According to this book, applied math basically falls into th...
Milky plaza preventive strike
  11/19/17
I have a math degree so I am as big a partisan of mathematic...
Lime Stirring Telephone Range
  11/04/17
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Lake Heady Queen Of The Night Box Office
  11/04/17
Then they should drop algebra to do more literacy.
Lime Stirring Telephone Range
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Lake Heady Queen Of The Night Box Office
  11/04/17
why not throw out all hard science while we're at it, probab...
Glittery Light Locus Boistinker
  11/04/17
I don't see whats wrong with someone who goes to college wan...
Lime Stirring Telephone Range
  11/04/17
so we're letting junior high kids pick their majors and care...
Glittery Light Locus Boistinker
  11/04/17
If college was about people only studying what they might us...
startled selfie nursing home
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tripping principal's office
  11/04/17
Might be more useful to them in terms of getting a job than ...
Lime Stirring Telephone Range
  11/04/17
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tripping principal's office
  11/04/17
I think the Germans do education very well with their system...
Lime Stirring Telephone Range
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Lake Heady Queen Of The Night Box Office
  11/04/17
Germans respect blue collar work, dumbass.
Duck-like Elite Business Firm
  11/08/17
The idea of general ed requirements in a degree would seem q...
emerald titillating mad-dog skullcap
  11/04/17
he's right about rote memorization
Electric smoky stage
  11/08/17
If you’re learning math via rote memorization you’re doing i...
Coral cheese-eating lodge
  11/08/17
Cr
Electric smoky stage
  11/08/17
People would be better off learning things like personal fin...
Milky plaza preventive strike
  11/08/17
Those wanting to review their pre-algebra may want to check ...
Milky plaza preventive strike
  01/11/18
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mentally impaired parlor
  01/11/18
SUN'S UP, A LITTLE AFTER TWELVE MAKE BREAKFAST FOR MYSELF ...
Milky plaza preventive strike
  01/11/18
what's the answer to the polynomial simplification in the ar...
Swollen hall
  01/11/18
[5(x-3)]/[x^2(y+6)], I think
exhilarant faggot firefighter
  01/11/18
Libs won’t be happy until all real learning is canned in fav...
Hyperventilating hell gunner
  01/11/18
"Libs" "happy"
Milky plaza preventive strike
  01/11/18
Math is one of the fundamental keys to understanding the wor...
startled selfie nursing home
  01/11/18
yep
Milky plaza preventive strike
  01/11/18
I hated linear algebra and multivariable calculus, but its a...
Submissive talented doctorate stead
  01/11/18
yep sounds pretty practical
Milky plaza preventive strike
  01/11/18
For many, college needs to be retired as a requirement.
Galvanic federal spot
  04/20/18


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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:06 AM
Author: mentally impaired parlor

How necessary is intermediate algebra, a high school-level course on factoring trinomials, graphing exponential functions and memorizing formulas that most non-math or science students will rarely use in everyday life or for the rest of college?

http://www.latimes.com/local/education/la-me-intermediate-algebra-qa-20170630-htmlstory.html

"Diversity" leading to dumbing down of life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687803)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 5:48 AM
Author: diverse chapel twinkling uncleanness

half the college curriculum needs to go

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601502)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:13 AM
Author: geriatric bateful yarmulke

"intermediate" algebra sounds a lot like HS Algebra I.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687806)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:15 AM
Author: mentally impaired parlor

http://www.smc.edu/AcademicPrograms/Mathematics/Documents/Course_Documents/M20_Final_Rev.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687807)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:39 AM
Author: geriatric bateful yarmulke

Look at all of that patriarchy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687825)



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Date: July 18th, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: arousing maize hospital



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Date: July 18th, 2017 1:57 AM
Author: costumed temple sneaky criminal

Damn i can't remember how to do some of this. I'm gonna be useless by the time my kids are taking this shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33799943)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:36 AM
Author: Aromatic Area

But gender studies is a must take course, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687820)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 8:03 AM
Author: Fragrant circlehead

keep talking shit about gender theory

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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:47 AM
Author: pink racy volcanic crater heaven

Doesn't stats use algebra too? What about the big push for every minority to be "coding"? If you can't do basic algebra, you don't have a prayer of being able to code an app.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687830)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:53 AM
Author: Aromatic Area

Anyone going to a California public school is never going to do CS in the first place. It's all Mexicans now. They just need classes in custodial studies and security guard certification prep.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687832)



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Date: November 8th, 2017 10:09 AM
Author: Coral cheese-eating lodge



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:54 AM
Author: mint indirect expression

This is why we need a "vocational track".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687833)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:54 AM
Author: Aromatic Area

This is why Idiocracy was a 180 as fuck movie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687834)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:58 AM
Author: Aromatic Area

Good luck with that in an age of automation, bro. Gazprom has a new undersea welding robot that's going to put 99% of its underwater welders out of a job. Underwater welding was like a $100 an hour gig. Every remotely decent vocational gig is going to a robot in the next 30 years.



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:56 AM
Author: Aromatic Area

I knew shit was going to get bad when they stopped teaching kids cursive so now we have a whole generation that cant even sign their own names with a freakin pen properly. Kids who couldnt bother to learn cursive cant be bothered to learn quadratic equations. Shit is a slippery slope. Meanwhile in China they come out of HS knowing more math than ARE math majors. LJL at America's future.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687837)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:57 AM
Author: mentally impaired parlor

DESCRIBE russian cursive

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Date: July 2nd, 2017 8:12 AM
Author: geriatric bateful yarmulke

http://i.imgur.com/OxRbnYU.jpg

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Date: July 2nd, 2017 9:11 AM
Author: supple metal kitchen

i LOL'd

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Date: July 2nd, 2017 9:12 AM
Author: mentally impaired parlor



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Date: July 18th, 2017 3:21 AM
Author: outnumbered gas station



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:46 AM
Author: White fiercely-loyal office

180

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Date: January 11th, 2018 4:54 AM
Author: Spectacular Bull Headed Lettuce



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Date: January 11th, 2018 4:57 AM
Author: exhilarant faggot firefighter

lmao

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Date: January 11th, 2018 7:46 AM
Author: Laughsome property wagecucks



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Date: January 11th, 2018 1:48 PM
Author: Anal Zippy Shitlib

In the computer age, who needs cursive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35132756)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 7:58 AM
Author: aphrodisiac whorehouse mad cow disease

For shitliberal arts kids who will take only one math course, an equally rigorous stats course would be a better alternative, I think. It can really lend a lot of insight into life, and it might actually better prepare them to see though some of the bs they'll be served up in other classes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687840)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 8:00 AM
Author: Aromatic Area

You generally cant get a liberal arts degree without 1 math course (usually Calc I) and stats. Stats is a requirement even at most TTT colleges. You cant do your senior thesis is most majors without stats and usually econometrics on top of stats 101. This is why doing away with Algebra I is retarded. You cant do stats 101 without Algebra I.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687842)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 8:05 AM
Author: aphrodisiac whorehouse mad cow disease

Guess you're right. It's just so basic to most of us that it's hard to believe the some kids need to taught it in college

Edit: OTOH, don't most of them have this under their belt, but they're too dumb to place into calc or even precalc, so they get relegated to repeating a high school course.

Most ttt schools I'm familiar with don't require stats for non social science majors

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687844)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 8:04 AM
Author: mentally impaired parlor

If you can't do algebra you aren't doing shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687843)



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Date: November 8th, 2017 10:29 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle stag film roommate



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Date: July 18th, 2017 1:27 AM
Author: Galvanic federal spot

They wouldn't be smart enough for stats, either. You think they'll be able to grasp basic conditional probability?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33799840)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 9:00 AM
Author: black hominid

lmao most people at my school took algebra in middle school

sad!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687921)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 9:15 AM
Author: supple metal kitchen

i had algebra in 8th grade and calc BC in HS and I feel only extremely average in my MAFF skills

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687956)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 9:16 AM
Author: mentally impaired parlor

Don't be shy, the phrase "extremely average" shows you are a mathematical fool. HTH.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687960)



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 9:18 AM
Author: Angry learning disabled indian lodge potus

Hey bro how'd your math degree from UT work out for you? You're probably at some hedge fund or something right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33687965)



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Date: July 18th, 2017 2:14 AM
Author: Misanthropic travel guidebook field

lmao brutal

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Date: July 18th, 2017 3:06 AM
Author: Green sweet tailpipe psychic



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Date: November 8th, 2017 10:11 AM
Author: Coral cheese-eating lodge

lmao

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Date: January 11th, 2018 7:48 AM
Author: Navy Main People Orchestra Pit



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Date: July 2nd, 2017 9:46 AM
Author: french citrine stage pervert

I flat out told my high school algebra teacher that I was never going to use this shit so why were they making me learn it.

Today, in my white collar non-STEM office job, I regularly have to solve for X and use basic algebra.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33688030)



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Date: July 18th, 2017 12:49 AM
Author: mentally impaired parlor

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-california-community-colleges-algebra-20170717-story.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33799570)



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Date: July 18th, 2017 1:25 AM
Author: Galvanic federal spot

Algebra legitimately arises in ordinary professional and semi-professional life (e.g., solving for an unknown, working with interest rates).

If you can't do basic algebra (which is what they're really talking about), then the degree shouldn't be called a college degree of any sort.

It also happens that algebra requires the ability to engage in formal, abstract thought, which is precisely one of the things we expect a "college" graduate to be able to do.

If you can't do that, what you're learning is either worthless or should be called vocational training.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33799830)



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Date: July 18th, 2017 3:16 AM
Author: emerald titillating mad-dog skullcap

Twist: they all should be doing vocational training

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33800121)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 4:55 AM
Author: Spectacular Bull Headed Lettuce



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Date: July 18th, 2017 1:27 AM
Author: Milky plaza preventive strike

can't remember the last time algebra or calculus was useful to me. better to learn stuff like personal finance and business, the legal system, healthcare, auto mechanics.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33799842)



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Date: July 18th, 2017 1:32 AM
Author: Galvanic federal spot

You've never calculated accrual of interest over time or asked what rate you'll need to reach a goal? You've never solved for an unknown?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33799877)



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Date: July 18th, 2017 1:43 AM
Author: Milky plaza preventive strike

they have web calculators for that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33799926)



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Date: July 18th, 2017 2:25 AM
Author: Galvanic federal spot

Dumbs wouldn't even know how to frame the issue and ask the question.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33800024)



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Date: July 18th, 2017 3:11 AM
Author: glassy mischievous messiness mental disorder

how are they going to do their chemistry and physics classes without basic algebra?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33800112)



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Date: July 18th, 2017 3:39 AM
Author: Galvanic federal spot

Tools of the cishetero patriarchy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33800147)



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Date: July 30th, 2017 8:57 PM
Author: Milky plaza preventive strike

"Back in the 1950s, Chuck Berry recorded 'School Days,' a song about the life of a typical high school student. It included the lines 'American history, practical math, you studyin' hard and hopin' to pass.' Practical math back then was a bedrock course in American high schools. You can still find courses in practical math today, but mostly in vocational or trade schools."

"What happened to practical math? The one-word answer is Sputnik. The threat from advanced technology developed by the Soviet Union created a fear of a missile gap, and the powers that be decided that a concerted effort should be made to push engineering, science, and math. Engineering and science use advanced math, and algebra is the language of advanced math. In an attempt to respond to the technological challenge of Sputnik, practical math got phased out, and algebra got phased in."

-The Smart Guide to Practical Math, by Jim Stein (2015)

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Date: July 30th, 2017 9:48 PM
Author: erotic dashing parlour



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:15 AM
Author: Insanely creepy fuchsia mood garrison



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Date: November 8th, 2017 10:13 AM
Author: Coral cheese-eating lodge

Now listening to chuck berry all morning thank

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Date: July 30th, 2017 9:50 PM
Author: Bossy regret coldplay fan

Good. A college degree will become a stigma.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33887479)



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Date: July 30th, 2017 9:57 PM
Author: fluffy bat-shit-crazy organic girlfriend nowag

Makes sense. College is basically HS at this point. We need to cater to the lowest common denominator. Unfortunately.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33887508)



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Date: July 30th, 2017 10:06 PM
Author: Stimulating Party Of The First Part Point

That's not David Lat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33887554)



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Date: July 30th, 2017 10:42 PM
Author: vivacious jet institution dopamine

Teaching a pig to sing exasperates you and annoys the pig. Good riddance, dumbs only slow down the smart kids who want to learn. And like I have said before there is a huge gap between being able to "solve for x" on a test and being able to identify and formulate a real life problem in algebraic terms.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33887846)



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Date: July 30th, 2017 10:46 PM
Author: honey-headed multi-billionaire

Lol, it makes me mad that this shit is not on the SAT. It's basically a bunch of middle school level word problems, so you're ONE WRONG ARITHMETIC ERROR away from a 740.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33887888)



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Date: August 10th, 2017 1:08 PM
Author: Milky plaza preventive strike

"A good high school algebra course prepares you to do very well on the SAT test so that you can get into the college of your choice. It also helps you deal with problems involving trains headed toward each other at different speeds and their subsequent fates."

"And just to be as direct as possible about the shortcomings of traditional algebra course content, it's quite typical that even the better students aren't able to make basic financing decisions later. They can solve lots of goofy artificial problems about trains, but they can't tell when changes in interest rates mean that they should think about a mortgage refinance, and they believe amazing and fantastically contradictory probability results."

-Everyday Math for Dummies, by Charles Seiter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#33957084)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:00 AM
Author: Milky plaza preventive strike

"Pre-algebra is the culmination of the math that average people really use."

-The Complete Idiot's Guide to Pre-Algebra, by Szczepanski and Kositsky

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601204)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:02 AM
Author: Milky plaza preventive strike

"I never use one of algebra's most famous formulas, the quadratic formula, except when I'm teaching class. You certainly can find ways to use algebra and higher math in your everyday life if you try hard enough, but unless you're in a career that uses numbers, you can probably get away with avoiding it."

-ibid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601209)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:26 AM
Author: Lime Stirring Telephone Range

Almost all the "math" I run across is not really even math, its just arithmetic. Stuff like calculating the present value of future payments.

The most complicated math I have EVER encountered as a lawyer are the various formulas for valuing options (e.g. Black-Scholes PDEs).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601303)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:32 AM
Author: Lake Heady Queen Of The Night Box Office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601313)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:35 AM
Author: Lime Stirring Telephone Range

Depends on whether you subscribe to the classic definition of a college education or regard it as more like four years of training for the modern job market.

That classic education used to involve Latin/Greek and stuff like rhetoric and philosophy and I don't think they are requirements anymore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601321)



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Date: November 19th, 2017 12:19 PM
Author: Milky plaza preventive strike

According to this book, applied math basically falls into three categories:

1. basic arithmetic, used routinely everyday, usually with a 4-function calculator

2. vocational math for skilled trades like electricians and construction work

3. the math used in scientific and technical fields

There arguably could be fourth category for business, financial and investing math.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34723229)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:21 AM
Author: Lime Stirring Telephone Range

I have a math degree so I am as big a partisan of mathematics and mathematical education as anyone but I don't really see the point of making algebra a compulsory subject for college.

Why make people who will very likely never ever use it study it? Wouldn't they be better off studying something that they might use?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601296)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:25 AM
Author: Lake Heady Queen Of The Night Box Office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601301)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:29 AM
Author: Lime Stirring Telephone Range

Then they should drop algebra to do more literacy.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601307)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:43 AM
Author: Lake Heady Queen Of The Night Box Office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601339)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:33 AM
Author: Glittery Light Locus Boistinker

why not throw out all hard science while we're at it, probably less than 2% of high school grads use chemistry or physics or bio

and why teach literature, just keep all english education to composition

and who "uses" history anyways

you learn things in high school not just b/c they're valuable but b/c we value them as a culture, or b/c it's important to "teach kids how to think" (e.g. scientifically or mathematically), or b/c they're necessary to move onto higher level work in that discipline, and it's valuable to teach kids those things to give them a chance to proceed to higher-level work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601318)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:37 AM
Author: Lime Stirring Telephone Range

I don't see whats wrong with someone who goes to college wanting to be say, an English teacher, not having to study any STEM subjects.

Just as if you want to be a mathematician why should you be forced to do anything other than mathematics? Why be forced to do some BS liberal arts subjects as fillers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601325)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:44 AM
Author: Glittery Light Locus Boistinker

so we're letting junior high kids pick their majors and careers now?

you didn't read my post. "usefulness" isn't the only reason we teach kids things. idgaf if a mathematician knows the details of the battle of hastings or remembers much shakespeare but he should be culturally-aware and should be taught to express himself effectively. and idgaf if an english prof knows how to do matrix algebra but he should be forced to do math beyond what he might find "immediately useful" to learn to think mathematically and analytically, and god forbid we should expose him as a middle school student to valuable knowledge that he might enjoy and want to continue with.

exposure to new areas of knowledge and testing kids' intellectual limits is an important part of pre-college ed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601340)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 8:10 AM
Author: startled selfie nursing home

If college was about people only studying what they might use it would be two semesters max.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35131196)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:36 AM
Author: tripping principal's office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601323)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:38 AM
Author: Lime Stirring Telephone Range

Might be more useful to them in terms of getting a job than wasting four years on "communications", "gender theory" or "business studies".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601329)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:39 AM
Author: tripping principal's office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601332)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:41 AM
Author: Lime Stirring Telephone Range

I think the Germans do education very well with their system of technical tertiary education. Some of the more technical trades do require a decent brain.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601336)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 3:41 AM
Author: Lake Heady Queen Of The Night Box Office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601337)



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Date: November 8th, 2017 10:14 AM
Author: Duck-like Elite Business Firm

Germans respect blue collar work, dumbass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34633579)



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Date: November 4th, 2017 5:35 AM
Author: emerald titillating mad-dog skullcap

The idea of general ed requirements in a degree would seem quite odd in most countries. The broad part of your education should be over after 18.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34601484)



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Date: November 8th, 2017 10:10 AM
Author: Electric smoky stage

he's right about rote memorization

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34633558)



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Date: November 8th, 2017 10:16 AM
Author: Coral cheese-eating lodge

If you’re learning math via rote memorization you’re doing it wrong. You learn math by solving problems. Rote memorization is for biology.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34633593)



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Date: November 8th, 2017 10:18 AM
Author: Electric smoky stage

Cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34633603)



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Date: November 8th, 2017 11:55 AM
Author: Milky plaza preventive strike

People would be better off learning things like personal finance, the legal system, health care, auto repair, home maintenance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#34634448)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 4:34 AM
Author: Milky plaza preventive strike

Those wanting to review their pre-algebra may want to check out Math Doesn't Suck: How to Survive Middle School Math without Losing Your Mind or Breaking a Nail, by Danica McKellar. The author is an actress who I haven't heard of but she's been in some TV shows. The book is aimed at tween girls and is written in a chatty, informal way that some people might find helpful. Pre-algebra is basically fractions, decimals, and percents, and some related topics like unit conversions, proportions, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35130808)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 4:36 AM
Author: mentally impaired parlor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35130812)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 4:46 AM
Author: Milky plaza preventive strike

SUN'S UP, A LITTLE AFTER TWELVE

MAKE BREAKFAST FOR MYSELF

LEAVE THE WORK FOR SOMEONE ELSE

PEOPLE SAY, THEY SAY THAT IT'S JUST A PHASE

THEY TELL ME TO ACT MY AGE, WELL I AAAAAAAMMM!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35130825)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 4:47 AM
Author: Swollen hall

what's the answer to the polynomial simplification in the article?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35130828)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 8:14 AM
Author: exhilarant faggot firefighter

[5(x-3)]/[x^2(y+6)], I think

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35131209)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 7:59 AM
Author: Hyperventilating hell gunner

Libs won’t be happy until all real learning is canned in favor of indoctrination and tranny/minority studies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35131165)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 1:41 PM
Author: Milky plaza preventive strike

"Libs"

"happy"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35132700)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 8:08 AM
Author: startled selfie nursing home

Math is one of the fundamental keys to understanding the world.

Most people also don't need to know about the Golgi Apparatus or inert gasses in their everyday lives either. Should we cut biology and chemistry too?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35131188)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 1:39 PM
Author: Milky plaza preventive strike

yep

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35132684)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 1:53 PM
Author: Submissive talented doctorate stead

I hated linear algebra and multivariable calculus, but its actually pretty practical for statistics, machine learning, things like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35132783)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 2:04 PM
Author: Milky plaza preventive strike

yep sounds pretty practical

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35132906)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 10:45 PM
Author: Galvanic federal spot

For many, college needs to be retired as a requirement.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3663788&forum_id=2#35886039)