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transactional work SUCKS

I am a biglaw shitigator that has gotten sucked into an M&am...
geriatric puppy hospital
  07/19/17
yeah im a huge fan. tons of downtime to just chill
bonkers chapel
  07/19/17
no that's terrible. instead of billing 8 hours and go home y...
geriatric puppy hospital
  07/19/17
Why wouldn't you bill for all that time?
Painfully honest volcanic crater
  07/19/17
bc i'm not working? i'm at home sitting around with my dogs ...
geriatric puppy hospital
  07/19/17
Don't be a fag have a beer, you can still do the work
Crawly exciting office
  07/19/17
And bill while waiting to work.
Painfully honest volcanic crater
  07/19/17
u can't do that. is that what transnational folks do? like b...
geriatric puppy hospital
  07/19/17
Yes, if you're truly unable to do anything because you have ...
Crawly exciting office
  07/19/17
i can hang out, watch tv, etc. doesn't seem right to bill fo...
geriatric puppy hospital
  07/19/17
OFS
Bateful demanding psychic keepsake machete
  07/19/17
what do you put in the billing entry? "waiting for work...
geriatric puppy hospital
  07/19/17
It's akin to driving to a hearing while listening to some 18...
Painfully honest volcanic crater
  07/19/17
Attn to correspondence and comprehensive support of deal mat...
cowardly comical jew
  07/19/17
That sounds like some serious shit, like you're on the Trann...
Painfully honest volcanic crater
  07/19/17
when I was a junior i did some doc review after a few beers ...
geriatric puppy hospital
  07/19/17
Yeah, that sounds WAY better than tranny work
appetizing feces
  07/19/17
what
Vigorous trailer park karate
  07/19/17
in litigation i rarely ever work past 7 or 8 pm. maybe twice...
geriatric puppy hospital
  07/19/17
Weird flame
Ruby Hell Fortuitous Meteor
  07/19/17
?
geriatric puppy hospital
  07/19/17
Lol ya it's so much worse than having 75 open Westlaw tabs a...
Fishy doobsian roommate philosopher-king
  07/19/17
man fuck that. just pull somebody else's brief on ecf pacer ...
geriatric puppy hospital
  07/19/17
Are you low IQ?
Ruby Hell Fortuitous Meteor
  07/19/17
That is entirely different than the type of transactional BS...
Vigorous trailer park karate
  07/19/17
Oh the EXIT OPTIONS of shitigation
Bateful demanding psychic keepsake machete
  07/19/17
you're right about that. not sure it justifies the years of ...
geriatric puppy hospital
  07/19/17
Shitigation is death
Bateful demanding psychic keepsake machete
  07/19/17
specialized litigation has exit options, at least. lower pay...
geriatric puppy hospital
  07/19/17
false
Orchid Floppy Kitchen
  07/19/17
Nah, true
Vigorous trailer park karate
  07/19/17
I know associates who have gone in House in my field and I'v...
geriatric puppy hospital
  07/19/17
just buy refundable airline tickets and don't have friends.
Orchid Floppy Kitchen
  07/19/17
lol, cr but it's better than everything else
Orchid Floppy Kitchen
  07/19/17
Also, do transactional lawyer is ever actually have to writ...
geriatric puppy hospital
  07/19/17
A contract is like a narrative, addressing the obligations o...
Bearded Soul-stirring Address
  07/19/17
In emails explaining stuff
Fishy doobsian roommate philosopher-king
  07/19/17
Yea, when you go inhouse. Different audience.
outnumbered mildly autistic sneaky criminal
  07/19/17
...
Clear cracking incel sandwich
  07/20/17
Have we all come to terms with the fact that calishitlawguru...
excitant nursing home
  07/20/17
Cq
Medicated Abode
  07/20/17
Biglaw transactional work sucks because you are just brought...
Curious parlor circlehead
  07/20/17


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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:40 PM
Author: geriatric puppy hospital

I am a biglaw shitigator that has gotten sucked into an M&A "deal" this week. I can't believe how much it blows! Sit around all day with nothing to do then the client dumps the latest draft of whatever agreement we have so that we can "turn" it overnight. Then it takes literally 2 hours to do edits that would take 5 minutes on a brief, because you have to go through some sort of daisy chain of emails and calls to do it. And you have to sit around all night just waiting for the next person to respond to email, call, whatever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813516)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:42 PM
Author: bonkers chapel

yeah im a huge fan. tons of downtime to just chill

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813534)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:43 PM
Author: geriatric puppy hospital

no that's terrible. instead of billing 8 hours and go home you have to be on call all. fucking. night.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813544)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:45 PM
Author: Painfully honest volcanic crater

Why wouldn't you bill for all that time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813562)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:47 PM
Author: geriatric puppy hospital

bc i'm not working? i'm at home sitting around with my dogs but unable to drink beer because some random bullshit tasks will come in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813579)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:48 PM
Author: Crawly exciting office

Don't be a fag have a beer, you can still do the work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813593)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:49 PM
Author: Painfully honest volcanic crater

And bill while waiting to work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813601)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:51 PM
Author: geriatric puppy hospital

u can't do that. is that what transnational folks do? like bill hours and hours whenever they *might* have some bullshit task come in?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813608)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:51 PM
Author: Crawly exciting office

Yes, if you're truly unable to do anything because you have to wait for work, that should be billed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813612)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:52 PM
Author: geriatric puppy hospital

i can hang out, watch tv, etc. doesn't seem right to bill for that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813620)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:55 PM
Author: Bateful demanding psychic keepsake machete

OFS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813641)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:56 PM
Author: geriatric puppy hospital

what do you put in the billing entry? "waiting for work"??? i've only billed for "waiting" time once, and it is when the client directed me to stand by and wait to make a filing that had already been prepared. so i went to the bar and drank beer waiting for the "ok." but that was a special circumstance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813648)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 11:12 PM
Author: Painfully honest volcanic crater

It's akin to driving to a hearing while listening to some 180 podcasts.

As for what to write in the time entry, just flow from whatever task you just completed or work on next. You know this nigger gsme.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813775)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 11:13 PM
Author: cowardly comical jew

Attn to correspondence and comprehensive support of deal matters (6.5); continued diligence and analysis related to same (3.2)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813785)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 11:17 PM
Author: Painfully honest volcanic crater

That sounds like some serious shit, like you're on the Tranny Night's Watch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813801)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:50 PM
Author: geriatric puppy hospital

when I was a junior i did some doc review after a few beers and produced something that shouldn't have been produced and the assistant GC alled me and reamed me out saying that the GC had "flayed his fucking skin back over it". LJL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813603)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 11:17 PM
Author: appetizing feces

Yeah, that sounds WAY better than tranny work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813803)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:46 PM
Author: Vigorous trailer park karate

what

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813575)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:47 PM
Author: geriatric puppy hospital

in litigation i rarely ever work past 7 or 8 pm. maybe twice a month. it's nice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813587)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:48 PM
Author: Ruby Hell Fortuitous Meteor

Weird flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813594)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:49 PM
Author: geriatric puppy hospital

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813597)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:43 PM
Author: Fishy doobsian roommate philosopher-king

Lol ya it's so much worse than having 75 open Westlaw tabs and volumes of evidence open trying desperately to think of how it will all come together in a brief

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813552)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:48 PM
Author: geriatric puppy hospital

man fuck that. just pull somebody else's brief on ecf pacer from a similar case where the same issues were involved and pull all the cites from their brief.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813591)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:48 PM
Author: Ruby Hell Fortuitous Meteor

Are you low IQ?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813592)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:58 PM
Author: Vigorous trailer park karate

That is entirely different than the type of transactional BS OP is complaining about. The situation you described is procrastination and incompetence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813670)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:51 PM
Author: Bateful demanding psychic keepsake machete

Oh the EXIT OPTIONS of shitigation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813607)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:52 PM
Author: geriatric puppy hospital

you're right about that. not sure it justifies the years of hell to be transnational though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813616)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:54 PM
Author: Bateful demanding psychic keepsake machete

Shitigation is death

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813638)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:57 PM
Author: geriatric puppy hospital

specialized litigation has exit options, at least. lower paying than big law to be sure, but you can still exit and not have to work a the firm till you die.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813662)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:59 PM
Author: Orchid Floppy Kitchen

false

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813674)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 11:00 PM
Author: Vigorous trailer park karate

Nah, true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813683)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 11:01 PM
Author: geriatric puppy hospital

I know associates who have gone in House in my field and I've had offers to go in House. Salary is sub-200, but it's an exit option nonetheless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813693)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:58 PM
Author: Orchid Floppy Kitchen

just buy refundable airline tickets and don't have friends.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813672)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:58 PM
Author: Orchid Floppy Kitchen

lol, cr

but it's better than everything else

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813665)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 11:07 PM
Author: geriatric puppy hospital

Also, do transactional lawyer is ever actually have to write anything in narrative format? Are writing skills required at all?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813743)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 11:14 PM
Author: Bearded Soul-stirring Address

A contract is like a narrative, addressing the obligations of the parties

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813791)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 11:16 PM
Author: Fishy doobsian roommate philosopher-king

In emails explaining stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813797)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 11:19 PM
Author: outnumbered mildly autistic sneaky criminal

Yea, when you go inhouse. Different audience.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813821)



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Date: July 20th, 2017 11:59 AM
Author: Clear cracking incel sandwich



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33816401)



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Date: July 20th, 2017 12:25 PM
Author: excitant nursing home

Have we all come to terms with the fact that calishitlawguru pwns the fuck out of all of this shit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33816546)



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Date: July 20th, 2017 4:07 PM
Author: Medicated Abode

Cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33818215)



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Date: July 20th, 2017 4:11 PM
Author: Curious parlor circlehead

Biglaw transactional work sucks because you are just brought in after all the major deal points are decided upon to just paper the deal, with everything being a fire drill.

Working for smaller entrepreneurial clients (who are usually rich as fuk) is much more interesting, as they look at you as more of an advisor, and bring you in for advice, both legal and business, from day 1 of a transaction and for any important decision.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33818254)