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transactional work SUCKS

I am a biglaw shitigator that has gotten sucked into an M&am...
cobalt self-absorbed office azn
  07/19/17
yeah im a huge fan. tons of downtime to just chill
free-loading splenetic spot
  07/19/17
no that's terrible. instead of billing 8 hours and go home y...
cobalt self-absorbed office azn
  07/19/17
Why wouldn't you bill for all that time?
Magenta Arousing Trailer Park Sneaky Criminal
  07/19/17
bc i'm not working? i'm at home sitting around with my dogs ...
cobalt self-absorbed office azn
  07/19/17
Don't be a fag have a beer, you can still do the work
brindle excitant patrolman lettuce
  07/19/17
And bill while waiting to work.
Magenta Arousing Trailer Park Sneaky Criminal
  07/19/17
u can't do that. is that what transnational folks do? like b...
cobalt self-absorbed office azn
  07/19/17
Yes, if you're truly unable to do anything because you have ...
brindle excitant patrolman lettuce
  07/19/17
i can hang out, watch tv, etc. doesn't seem right to bill fo...
cobalt self-absorbed office azn
  07/19/17
OFS
know-it-all pistol
  07/19/17
what do you put in the billing entry? "waiting for work...
cobalt self-absorbed office azn
  07/19/17
It's akin to driving to a hearing while listening to some 18...
Magenta Arousing Trailer Park Sneaky Criminal
  07/19/17
Attn to correspondence and comprehensive support of deal mat...
house-broken address
  07/19/17
That sounds like some serious shit, like you're on the Trann...
Magenta Arousing Trailer Park Sneaky Criminal
  07/19/17
when I was a junior i did some doc review after a few beers ...
cobalt self-absorbed office azn
  07/19/17
Yeah, that sounds WAY better than tranny work
concupiscible casino associate
  07/19/17
what
cruel-hearted demanding striped hyena famous landscape painting
  07/19/17
in litigation i rarely ever work past 7 or 8 pm. maybe twice...
cobalt self-absorbed office azn
  07/19/17
Weird flame
Racy circlehead sweet tailpipe
  07/19/17
?
cobalt self-absorbed office azn
  07/19/17
Lol ya it's so much worse than having 75 open Westlaw tabs a...
Wonderful angry lodge half-breed
  07/19/17
man fuck that. just pull somebody else's brief on ecf pacer ...
cobalt self-absorbed office azn
  07/19/17
Are you low IQ?
Racy circlehead sweet tailpipe
  07/19/17
That is entirely different than the type of transactional BS...
cruel-hearted demanding striped hyena famous landscape painting
  07/19/17
Oh the EXIT OPTIONS of shitigation
know-it-all pistol
  07/19/17
you're right about that. not sure it justifies the years of ...
cobalt self-absorbed office azn
  07/19/17
Shitigation is death
know-it-all pistol
  07/19/17
specialized litigation has exit options, at least. lower pay...
cobalt self-absorbed office azn
  07/19/17
false
Mahogany Church
  07/19/17
Nah, true
cruel-hearted demanding striped hyena famous landscape painting
  07/19/17
I know associates who have gone in House in my field and I'v...
cobalt self-absorbed office azn
  07/19/17
just buy refundable airline tickets and don't have friends.
Mahogany Church
  07/19/17
lol, cr but it's better than everything else
Mahogany Church
  07/19/17
Also, do transactional lawyer is ever actually have to writ...
cobalt self-absorbed office azn
  07/19/17
A contract is like a narrative, addressing the obligations o...
Beady-eyed Stage
  07/19/17
In emails explaining stuff
Wonderful angry lodge half-breed
  07/19/17
Yea, when you go inhouse. Different audience.
flushed black woman range
  07/19/17
...
Aromatic Native
  07/20/17
Have we all come to terms with the fact that calishitlawguru...
Sick skinny woman messiness
  07/20/17
Cq
supple aqua principal's office clown
  07/20/17
Biglaw transactional work sucks because you are just brought...
spectacular new version
  07/20/17


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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:40 PM
Author: cobalt self-absorbed office azn

I am a biglaw shitigator that has gotten sucked into an M&A "deal" this week. I can't believe how much it blows! Sit around all day with nothing to do then the client dumps the latest draft of whatever agreement we have so that we can "turn" it overnight. Then it takes literally 2 hours to do edits that would take 5 minutes on a brief, because you have to go through some sort of daisy chain of emails and calls to do it. And you have to sit around all night just waiting for the next person to respond to email, call, whatever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813516)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:42 PM
Author: free-loading splenetic spot

yeah im a huge fan. tons of downtime to just chill

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813534)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:43 PM
Author: cobalt self-absorbed office azn

no that's terrible. instead of billing 8 hours and go home you have to be on call all. fucking. night.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813544)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:45 PM
Author: Magenta Arousing Trailer Park Sneaky Criminal

Why wouldn't you bill for all that time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813562)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:47 PM
Author: cobalt self-absorbed office azn

bc i'm not working? i'm at home sitting around with my dogs but unable to drink beer because some random bullshit tasks will come in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813579)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:48 PM
Author: brindle excitant patrolman lettuce

Don't be a fag have a beer, you can still do the work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813593)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:49 PM
Author: Magenta Arousing Trailer Park Sneaky Criminal

And bill while waiting to work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813601)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:51 PM
Author: cobalt self-absorbed office azn

u can't do that. is that what transnational folks do? like bill hours and hours whenever they *might* have some bullshit task come in?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813608)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:51 PM
Author: brindle excitant patrolman lettuce

Yes, if you're truly unable to do anything because you have to wait for work, that should be billed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813612)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:52 PM
Author: cobalt self-absorbed office azn

i can hang out, watch tv, etc. doesn't seem right to bill for that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813620)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:55 PM
Author: know-it-all pistol

OFS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813641)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:56 PM
Author: cobalt self-absorbed office azn

what do you put in the billing entry? "waiting for work"??? i've only billed for "waiting" time once, and it is when the client directed me to stand by and wait to make a filing that had already been prepared. so i went to the bar and drank beer waiting for the "ok." but that was a special circumstance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813648)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 11:12 PM
Author: Magenta Arousing Trailer Park Sneaky Criminal

It's akin to driving to a hearing while listening to some 180 podcasts.

As for what to write in the time entry, just flow from whatever task you just completed or work on next. You know this nigger gsme.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813775)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 11:13 PM
Author: house-broken address

Attn to correspondence and comprehensive support of deal matters (6.5); continued diligence and analysis related to same (3.2)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813785)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 11:17 PM
Author: Magenta Arousing Trailer Park Sneaky Criminal

That sounds like some serious shit, like you're on the Tranny Night's Watch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813801)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:50 PM
Author: cobalt self-absorbed office azn

when I was a junior i did some doc review after a few beers and produced something that shouldn't have been produced and the assistant GC alled me and reamed me out saying that the GC had "flayed his fucking skin back over it". LJL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813603)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 11:17 PM
Author: concupiscible casino associate

Yeah, that sounds WAY better than tranny work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813803)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:46 PM
Author: cruel-hearted demanding striped hyena famous landscape painting

what

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813575)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:47 PM
Author: cobalt self-absorbed office azn

in litigation i rarely ever work past 7 or 8 pm. maybe twice a month. it's nice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813587)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:48 PM
Author: Racy circlehead sweet tailpipe

Weird flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813594)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:49 PM
Author: cobalt self-absorbed office azn

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813597)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:43 PM
Author: Wonderful angry lodge half-breed

Lol ya it's so much worse than having 75 open Westlaw tabs and volumes of evidence open trying desperately to think of how it will all come together in a brief

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813552)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:48 PM
Author: cobalt self-absorbed office azn

man fuck that. just pull somebody else's brief on ecf pacer from a similar case where the same issues were involved and pull all the cites from their brief.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813591)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:48 PM
Author: Racy circlehead sweet tailpipe

Are you low IQ?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813592)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:58 PM
Author: cruel-hearted demanding striped hyena famous landscape painting

That is entirely different than the type of transactional BS OP is complaining about. The situation you described is procrastination and incompetence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813670)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:51 PM
Author: know-it-all pistol

Oh the EXIT OPTIONS of shitigation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813607)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:52 PM
Author: cobalt self-absorbed office azn

you're right about that. not sure it justifies the years of hell to be transnational though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813616)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:54 PM
Author: know-it-all pistol

Shitigation is death

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813638)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:57 PM
Author: cobalt self-absorbed office azn

specialized litigation has exit options, at least. lower paying than big law to be sure, but you can still exit and not have to work a the firm till you die.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813662)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:59 PM
Author: Mahogany Church

false

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813674)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 11:00 PM
Author: cruel-hearted demanding striped hyena famous landscape painting

Nah, true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813683)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 11:01 PM
Author: cobalt self-absorbed office azn

I know associates who have gone in House in my field and I've had offers to go in House. Salary is sub-200, but it's an exit option nonetheless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813693)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:58 PM
Author: Mahogany Church

just buy refundable airline tickets and don't have friends.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813672)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:58 PM
Author: Mahogany Church

lol, cr

but it's better than everything else

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813665)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 11:07 PM
Author: cobalt self-absorbed office azn

Also, do transactional lawyer is ever actually have to write anything in narrative format? Are writing skills required at all?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813743)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 11:14 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Stage

A contract is like a narrative, addressing the obligations of the parties

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813791)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 11:16 PM
Author: Wonderful angry lodge half-breed

In emails explaining stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813797)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 11:19 PM
Author: flushed black woman range

Yea, when you go inhouse. Different audience.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813821)



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Date: July 20th, 2017 11:59 AM
Author: Aromatic Native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33816401)



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Date: July 20th, 2017 12:25 PM
Author: Sick skinny woman messiness

Have we all come to terms with the fact that calishitlawguru pwns the fuck out of all of this shit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33816546)



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Date: July 20th, 2017 4:07 PM
Author: supple aqua principal's office clown

Cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33818215)



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Date: July 20th, 2017 4:11 PM
Author: spectacular new version

Biglaw transactional work sucks because you are just brought in after all the major deal points are decided upon to just paper the deal, with everything being a fire drill.

Working for smaller entrepreneurial clients (who are usually rich as fuk) is much more interesting, as they look at you as more of an advisor, and bring you in for advice, both legal and business, from day 1 of a transaction and for any important decision.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33818254)