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In bipartisan show of respect for Trump, Congress waters down Russian sanctions

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/22/politics/congress-deal-russia-...
Bull headed stirring generalized bond school cafeteria
  07/22/17
Many respect him, but the Neocons screening the corrupt Sena...
Massive Razzle-dazzle Turdskin
  07/23/17
I hope the Russians use their kompromat to force him to veto...
cyan dragon volcanic crater
  07/23/17
lol what domestic political capital? link?
mind-boggling up-to-no-good lodge jap
  07/23/17
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Bull headed stirring generalized bond school cafeteria
  07/23/17
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cyan dragon volcanic crater
  07/23/17
The US Congress, most especially the Senate, is a manically ...
Massive Razzle-dazzle Turdskin
  07/23/17
It passed 98-2
cyan dragon volcanic crater
  07/23/17
Lol, tragic, but entirely pre-programmed. The US is a far m...
Massive Razzle-dazzle Turdskin
  07/23/17
Edit:
painfully honest impertinent corn cake temple
  07/23/17
Can anyone explain why this is a good thing?
flesh duck-like box office
  07/23/17
Because it not only sanctions Russia but ties the retard's h...
cyan dragon volcanic crater
  07/23/17
The message: The US will make no effort to avert nuclear war...
painfully honest impertinent corn cake temple
  07/23/17
Do u think Congress should have approved the "impenetra...
cyan dragon volcanic crater
  07/23/17
(responsive)
painfully honest impertinent corn cake temple
  07/23/17
Just curious about how open u want to be. Can u answer?
cyan dragon volcanic crater
  07/23/17
once you address the relevant and substantive point in this ...
painfully honest impertinent corn cake temple
  07/23/17
Which was?
cyan dragon volcanic crater
  07/23/17
Which treaty?
Massive Razzle-dazzle Turdskin
  07/23/17
We agreed with Gorbachev NATO not one inch to the east of un...
painfully honest impertinent corn cake temple
  07/23/17
Yes, bad all around.
Massive Razzle-dazzle Turdskin
  07/23/17
NATO expansion promises are a point of debate, but it was st...
Supple Piazza Useless Brakes
  07/24/17
It is a very bad thing for 98% of the US people.
Massive Razzle-dazzle Turdskin
  07/23/17
Do you know what this is u foreign worm? https://m.imgur...
cyan dragon volcanic crater
  07/23/17
So? As I said, Russia is also criminal, just less systematic...
Massive Razzle-dazzle Turdskin
  07/23/17
Do we throw lawyers out of windows and throw political activ...
cyan dragon volcanic crater
  07/23/17
I already said that the US is more sophisticated.
Massive Razzle-dazzle Turdskin
  07/23/17
Putin has never killed or ordered anyone killed and no one i...
Underhanded Range
  07/23/17
Lol
Arousing azure meetinghouse
  04/07/18
tbf, killing most of are lawyers, banksters, and political c...
pungent federal whorehouse multi-billionaire
  07/24/17
No, we just run them out of their jobs, harass them with the...
Supple Piazza Useless Brakes
  07/24/17
Trump is DONE now.
irradiated private investor
  07/23/17
Describe the coming process of 'doing' him.
Massive Razzle-dazzle Turdskin
  07/23/17
...
painfully honest impertinent corn cake temple
  07/23/17
He's a jew cuck. He'll be here for 8 years
anal salmon gaping really tough guy
  07/23/17
He might as well just hand over the keys now to criminal Kus...
Massive Razzle-dazzle Turdskin
  07/23/17
this kind of thing is a sign of a decaying empire, as the id...
White Tanning Salon
  07/23/17
And the window of violence, the time period during which a p...
Massive Razzle-dazzle Turdskin
  07/23/17
We have great relations with Germany, Sweden, Norway, Englan...
cyan dragon volcanic crater
  07/23/17
given our declining position, we should be steadily building...
White Tanning Salon
  07/23/17
...
painfully honest impertinent corn cake temple
  07/23/17
That's nice. Can you answer my question? And do you thin...
cyan dragon volcanic crater
  07/23/17
your question being whether russia or the US would "ben...
White Tanning Salon
  07/23/17
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painfully honest impertinent corn cake temple
  07/23/17
Look at how glibly u dismiss the comments about the nature o...
cyan dragon volcanic crater
  07/23/17
i treat it as seriously as it deserves to be treated. the i...
White Tanning Salon
  07/23/17
Youre as dishonest as you are shallow. I've been bashing Rus...
cyan dragon volcanic crater
  07/23/17
my "ideas" are pretty much mainline traditional di...
White Tanning Salon
  07/23/17
You seem to think that Russia is in the driver's seat. You a...
cyan dragon volcanic crater
  07/23/17
there's that short-termism again. you are confusing their p...
White Tanning Salon
  07/23/17
You realize we're not the only western country that has prob...
cyan dragon volcanic crater
  07/23/17
the proposed sanctions against russia are not specific respo...
White Tanning Salon
  07/23/17
There is so much stupidity and flat out disinformation in th...
cyan dragon volcanic crater
  07/23/17
Helping your Baltic friends with what? Russia has made zero ...
Underhanded Range
  07/23/17
Yeah I'm sure your GRU and FSB sub humans aren't trying to d...
cyan dragon volcanic crater
  07/23/17
Non responsive. These "countries" have fewer peopl...
Underhanded Range
  07/23/17
Until we start putting missiles and missile defense systems ...
cyan dragon volcanic crater
  07/23/17
At which point Vlad vaporizes Washington DC and the world ce...
Underhanded Range
  07/23/17
Lool ty
cyan dragon volcanic crater
  07/23/17
why should we outsource our russia policy to what some theor...
White Tanning Salon
  07/24/17
amazed you responded to wlmas so calmly and for so long, ble...
Vivacious fear-inspiring psychic
  07/24/17
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Beta abode
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Supple Piazza Useless Brakes
  07/24/17
He deserves some sort of medal
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Supple Piazza Useless Brakes
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comical potus
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aphrodisiac hot philosopher-king twinkling uncleanness
  07/25/17
Btw try to use fewer words for your contentless one-note nec...
cyan dragon volcanic crater
  07/23/17
why would an actual gay person use the word "faggot&quo...
Hilarious ebony stead indirect expression
  07/23/17
a 98-2 vote is a sign of a decaying empire?
pea-brained theater
  07/24/17
Most of Americans oppose it, 98% of senate votes in favor. T...
violent pistol newt
  07/23/17
Most Americans support increased sanctions.
Bull headed stirring generalized bond school cafeteria
  07/23/17
Fuck off you Russian cunt.
cyan dragon volcanic crater
  07/23/17
Putin is going to respond to this very simply. He is going t...
Underhanded Range
  07/23/17
petrodollar won this thread
aphrodisiac hot philosopher-king twinkling uncleanness
  07/23/17
obviously
comical potus
  07/23/17
one of the most brutal gapings in modern xo times
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aphrodisiac hot philosopher-king twinkling uncleanness
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Supple Piazza Useless Brakes
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Jesus christ WLMAS is a dullard
khaki bonkers area
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painfully honest impertinent corn cake temple
  07/24/17
(47-yo pedo)
cyan dragon volcanic crater
  07/24/17
His regurgitation of talking points from twitter is endless.
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aphrodisiac hot philosopher-king twinkling uncleanness
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WLMAS really sums up the problem with AA. This guy is an ab...
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Date: July 22nd, 2017 8:52 PM
Author: Bull headed stirring generalized bond school cafeteria

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/22/politics/congress-deal-russia-sanctions/index.html

Lol nope! Nobody respects this man.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33833390)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 9:57 PM
Author: Massive Razzle-dazzle Turdskin

Many respect him, but the Neocons screening the corrupt Senate hate him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33839911)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 7:44 PM
Author: cyan dragon volcanic crater

I hope the Russians use their kompromat to force him to veto and deplete his domestic political capital

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33839042)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 10:54 PM
Author: mind-boggling up-to-no-good lodge jap

lol what domestic political capital? link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33840349)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 7:57 PM
Author: Bull headed stirring generalized bond school cafeteria



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33839128)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 8:37 PM
Author: cyan dragon volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33839427)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 9:00 PM
Author: Massive Razzle-dazzle Turdskin

The US Congress, most especially the Senate, is a manically Jewry-screened, Jewry-financed, Jewry-threatened, and Jewry-rewarded assembly from hell. There is nothing democratic about simply purchasing seats and 'untouchable' Jewry thugs mobbing and killing any candidacy they dislike.

Their prime concern is not whether Trump is President or not, but only that their ongoing war on Russia can continue to be developed. Trump should openly shame Congress for this in full view of the people. Then he should bypass them. The US Senate is rotten to the core.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33839581)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 9:03 PM
Author: cyan dragon volcanic crater

It passed 98-2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33839601)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 9:10 PM
Author: Massive Razzle-dazzle Turdskin

Lol, tragic, but entirely pre-programmed.

The US is a far more criminal entity than even Russia.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33839634)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 9:16 PM
Author: painfully honest impertinent corn cake temple

Edit:

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33839667)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 9:13 PM
Author: flesh duck-like box office

Can anyone explain why this is a good thing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33839653)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 9:18 PM
Author: cyan dragon volcanic crater

Because it not only sanctions Russia but ties the retard's hands by depriving him of the ability to reduce them in the future, an unprecedented rebuke of the executive branch that sends an important message to America's enemies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33839685)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 9:27 PM
Author: painfully honest impertinent corn cake temple

The message: The US will make no effort to avert nuclear war. The US expects it will get everything and anything above and beyond it's treaty promises.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33839763)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 9:36 PM
Author: cyan dragon volcanic crater

Do u think Congress should have approved the "impenetrable cyber security force" Trump discussed with the tsarlet?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33839814)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 9:37 PM
Author: painfully honest impertinent corn cake temple

(responsive)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33839820)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 9:38 PM
Author: cyan dragon volcanic crater

Just curious about how open u want to be. Can u answer?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33839833)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 9:39 PM
Author: painfully honest impertinent corn cake temple

once you address the relevant and substantive point in this subthread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33839836)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 10:14 PM
Author: cyan dragon volcanic crater

Which was?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33840026)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 9:48 PM
Author: Massive Razzle-dazzle Turdskin

Which treaty?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33839881)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 9:51 PM
Author: painfully honest impertinent corn cake temple

We agreed with Gorbachev NATO not one inch to the east of unified Germany, now we are looking at NATO into ulkraine, through which Russia has been invaded twice kinda bigly

WE just up and left arms control 2001- inducing new round of nuclear weapons development

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33839891)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 9:54 PM
Author: Massive Razzle-dazzle Turdskin

Yes, bad all around.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33839903)



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Date: July 24th, 2017 12:38 PM
Author: Supple Piazza Useless Brakes

NATO expansion promises are a point of debate, but it was stupid of Clinton to do so and certainly destabilized the region more than it would have been otherwise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33843198)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 9:18 PM
Author: Massive Razzle-dazzle Turdskin

It is a very bad thing for 98% of the US people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33839688)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 9:19 PM
Author: cyan dragon volcanic crater

Do you know what this is u foreign worm?

https://m.imgur.com/2lSLFM1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33839698)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 9:25 PM
Author: Massive Razzle-dazzle Turdskin

So? As I said, Russia is also criminal, just less systematically and sophisticatedly so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33839752)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 9:38 PM
Author: cyan dragon volcanic crater

Do we throw lawyers out of windows and throw political activists into gulags and mental institutions? That entire country is a criminal syndicate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33839828)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 9:39 PM
Author: Massive Razzle-dazzle Turdskin

I already said that the US is more sophisticated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33839838)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 11:12 PM
Author: Underhanded Range

Putin has never killed or ordered anyone killed and no one is rotting in mental hospitals though all libs should.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33840440)



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Date: April 7th, 2018 11:48 PM
Author: Arousing azure meetinghouse

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#35789303)



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Date: July 24th, 2017 2:29 AM
Author: pungent federal whorehouse multi-billionaire

tbf, killing most of are lawyers, banksters, and political class could only be a good thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33841388)



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Date: July 24th, 2017 12:40 PM
Author: Supple Piazza Useless Brakes

No, we just run them out of their jobs, harass them with the IRS, and encourage violence against them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33843205)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 9:14 PM
Author: irradiated private investor

Trump is DONE now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33839659)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 9:31 PM
Author: Massive Razzle-dazzle Turdskin

Describe the coming process of 'doing' him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33839793)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 9:32 PM
Author: painfully honest impertinent corn cake temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33839794)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 9:38 PM
Author: anal salmon gaping really tough guy

He's a jew cuck. He'll be here for 8 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33839834)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 9:42 PM
Author: Massive Razzle-dazzle Turdskin

He might as well just hand over the keys now to criminal Kushner of the Tribe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33839850)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 9:56 PM
Author: White Tanning Salon

this kind of thing is a sign of a decaying empire, as the idea of a "national interest" disintegrates, and everything becomes a function of internal squabbling between domestic factions.

obviously it would be better for the US to build strategic alliances with a country like russia rather than treating it like a wayward child to be spanked and scolded, but high-level strategy becomes difficult in an empire in decline, because those are long-term plans, and during the decay process, the political "time horizon" contracts down to months or weeks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33839907)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 10:02 PM
Author: Massive Razzle-dazzle Turdskin

And the window of violence, the time period during which a power both sees decline and still has the most military power, is right now wide open for the US regime. A huge global danger one way or another.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33839932)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 10:10 PM
Author: cyan dragon volcanic crater

We have great relations with Germany, Sweden, Norway, England, France, Australia, the rest of Europe and Israel. Who needs good relations more, Russia or us?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33839998)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 10:18 PM
Author: White Tanning Salon

given our declining position, we should be steadily building alliances with russia in anticipation of future challenges related to the rise of china. instead, due to america's political infighting, we're going to alienate them both. sort of like how the sassanids were so wound up about the byzantines that they became completely blinded to the emergent threat of islam. policy toward the byzantines preoccupied the sassanid court to the exclusion of all else, and became a proxy element of internal palace intrigues. it didn't end well for them. myopia rarely does.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33840053)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 10:22 PM
Author: painfully honest impertinent corn cake temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33840084)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 10:29 PM
Author: cyan dragon volcanic crater

That's nice. Can you answer my question?

And do you think we should care about things like Magnitsky's lawyer oops falling out of a window? And the fact that it is a kakistocracy run by the worst elements of the security services? With "leaders" that the country's treasury to install themselves in power permanently? Why do u think the US should trust a corrupt mafia state like that? Do u want us to encourage the.Baltics to act like the subhumans to the east? You're a glib stupid faggot who deserves to be exiled to Russia

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33840151)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 10:38 PM
Author: White Tanning Salon

your question being whether russia or the US would "benefit more" from improved relations? russia would benefit more economically in the medium-term, while the US would be building a longer-term strategic alliance with a large eurasian power.

"And do you think we should care about things like Magnitsky's lawyer oops falling out of a window? "

nope. that reflects a fundamental misunderstanding of great power relations. that, once again, is the "naughty schoolchild" model of foreign relations, which is only useful in the context of a larger power chastening its vassal. russia is not a US vassal, though. so the model is fundamentally inapplicable and painfully dumb.

the rest of your comment is a decreasingly-hinged rant which goes back to my original point about decaying empires pulling things like foreign relations into the domestic orbit as part of the general process of implosion. you only pretend to care about "russia" at all because you believe that doing so will "stick it" to your domestic political enemies. when that becomes the prevailing model of governance, it's a sign of profound trouble.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33840213)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 10:39 PM
Author: painfully honest impertinent corn cake temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33840221)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 10:47 PM
Author: cyan dragon volcanic crater

Look at how glibly u dismiss the comments about the nature of Russia's government and leaders. Why not just say , no, I don't care that Russia is a kakistocracy run by the worst elements of the security state and corrupt oligarchs who throw lawyers out of windows?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33840292)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 10:49 PM
Author: White Tanning Salon

i treat it as seriously as it deserves to be treated. the internal governance of russia is not an american concern. the only reason anyone pretends otherwise is as a function of american domestic politics, which - as i noted - is the wrong way to approach foreign relations to begin with.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33840312)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 10:58 PM
Author: cyan dragon volcanic crater

Youre as dishonest as you are shallow. I've been bashing Russia for a lot longer than Trump has been in offivce , you're just too stupid to defend your profoundly unAmerican "ideas" on the merits so you impute partisanship and bad faith to people who express concerns about these things. But as long as you acknowledge that your ideas are on the fringe of educated discourse that's okay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33840367)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 11:03 PM
Author: White Tanning Salon

my "ideas" are pretty much mainline traditional diplomatic strategy. as a twilight empire, we engaged in quite a few unsustainable indulgences, including the bizarre sort of neocon-neoliberalism which led to pointless shit like the kosovo war, iraq, etc.

russia-bashing is largely an extension of that. the relevant question is, what type of relations with russia would be most beneficial for US security? "sanctions and hostility" is objectively the wrong answer, because both of those things are pointless and counterproductive with regard to american security goals.

i suspect you know this intuitively, but cannot admit it due to the current structure of the ideology into which you are embedded.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33840398)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 11:06 PM
Author: cyan dragon volcanic crater

You seem to think that Russia is in the driver's seat. You are either an enormous pussy or a terrible negotiator or both. They need us more than we need them. Keep flicking your clitdick to the idea of American decline. Go to Russia for a few weeks and revisit your priors dummy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33840416)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 11:10 PM
Author: White Tanning Salon

there's that short-termism again. you are confusing their position at one particular moment in time with their overall position ACROSS time. russia controls a fair chunk of eurasia and is a large nuclear power.

the burden is upon those who want to have POOR relations with russia; not the other way around. because the american benefits of good relations are obvious. you have to make the case that bad relations would benefit america more than we would lose from the absence of good relations. that's a basic national interest calculation - and i have not seen any credible case made that poor relations are in america's best interests.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33840430)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 11:15 PM
Author: cyan dragon volcanic crater

You realize we're not the only western country that has problems with that corrupt Mafia state, which exports oil and CP and malware and disinformation and nothing else of use, and which does not share any of our values? Do u think making nice with that kleptocracy is worth angering Great Britain and Germany and Australia and our Baltic friends? You pdon't seem to care very much about our relationships with other advanced democracies, but you are very solicitous of autocratic shitholes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33840457)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 11:24 PM
Author: White Tanning Salon

the proposed sanctions against russia are not specific responses to particular biltarial disputes; they are like poorly-directed scattergun blasts. that's why germany, for example, is saying that it won't even try to enforce some of those proposed sanctions on its end - because to do so would be pointless for them.

there is nothing in the improvement of american relations with russia that "great britain" or any other ally could legitimately be angry about, because such a thing is fundamentally not their concern. the disposition of the baltics is not our concern, either, any more than russia ought to have a say in whatever we do in northern mexico (for example).

but of course, people who support sanctions on russia don't even care about that, because if they actually cared about "the baltics," they would want the US to have closer relations with russia, and therefore more leverage to make specific requests within the context of those relations. when you've already frozen yourself out, you eliminate your own space to maneuver.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33840507)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 11:32 PM
Author: cyan dragon volcanic crater

There is so much stupidity and flat out disinformation in this post that it isn't worth a response. But briefly, Germany is all about sanctions but wants a safe harbor for German energy companies. The idea that we would be helping our Baltic friends by cozying up to Russia is just fucking bizarre. The average Latvian or Lithuanian would spit in your dumb face if u said that to them. And LOL at you suggesting that other advanced democracies that are wary of Russian influence wouldn't feel betrayed. Their hair has been on fire since this compromised Kremlin stooge got elected president. You think we're the ones intercepting all those communications between Trumpcucks and Russians? The GCHQ and ASD have leaked most of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33840566)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 11:34 PM
Author: Underhanded Range

Helping your Baltic friends with what? Russia has made zero territorial claims on the Baltics. The borders are settled by treaty. Only 1 Baltic country has a sizeable Russian population. The other 2 dont even have that to worry about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33840585)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 11:36 PM
Author: cyan dragon volcanic crater

Yeah I'm sure your GRU and FSB sub humans aren't trying to destabilize those countries

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33840599)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 11:38 PM
Author: Underhanded Range

Non responsive. These "countries" have fewer people in them than live in Brooklyn. There is nothing to destabilize. They are literally irrelevant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33840604)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 11:41 PM
Author: cyan dragon volcanic crater

Until we start putting missiles and missile defense systems on every inch of land from the Gulf of Finland to the Black Sea lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33840621)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: Underhanded Range

At which point Vlad vaporizes Washington DC and the world celebrates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33840658)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 11:49 PM
Author: cyan dragon volcanic crater

Lool ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33840677)



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Date: July 24th, 2017 12:09 AM
Author: White Tanning Salon

why should we outsource our russia policy to what some theoretical guy in lithuania thinks? "the baltics" are no more a proper US interest than haiti or something is a russian interest. i'm sure you recall how much trouble it created when russia got involved with cuba.

you seem to begin with your conclusion ("fuck russia") and look for means of supporting that conclusion. i'm starting with an open-ended question ("what will advance america's national interests?") and proceeding from there. i start with large-scale factors like the balance of power between the largest nations, since those factors are the most momentous, and work my way down.

you are clearly motivated by some kind of personal animus against putin and russia, but that's not how a serious nation should conduct its foreign policy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33840781)



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Date: July 24th, 2017 2:44 AM
Author: Vivacious fear-inspiring psychic

amazed you responded to wlmas so calmly and for so long, bless you hemidemi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33841409)



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Date: July 24th, 2017 12:43 PM
Author: Beta abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33843226)



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Date: July 24th, 2017 12:47 PM
Author: Supple Piazza Useless Brakes



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33843253)



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Date: July 24th, 2017 1:37 PM
Author: sinister umber coffee pot boiling water

He deserves some sort of medal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33843579)



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Date: July 24th, 2017 2:35 PM
Author: Supple Piazza Useless Brakes



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33844059)



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Date: July 24th, 2017 8:05 PM
Author: comical potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33846608)



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Date: July 25th, 2017 6:21 PM
Author: aphrodisiac hot philosopher-king twinkling uncleanness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33853922)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 10:13 PM
Author: cyan dragon volcanic crater

Btw try to use fewer words for your contentless one-note neckbeard "thoughts." You can't mask the simplicity and shallowness of your thinking with overwrought prose, faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33840016)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 10:14 PM
Author: Hilarious ebony stead indirect expression

why would an actual gay person use the word "faggot" in a hateful way? Just seems weird

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33840031)



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Date: July 24th, 2017 9:45 AM
Author: pea-brained theater

a 98-2 vote is a sign of a decaying empire?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33842047)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 10:22 PM
Author: violent pistol newt

Most of Americans oppose it, 98% of senate votes in favor. Tomorrow we will lecture the world some more about democracy. Nothing to see here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33840080)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 10:24 PM
Author: Bull headed stirring generalized bond school cafeteria

Most Americans support increased sanctions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33840095)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 11:42 PM
Author: cyan dragon volcanic crater

Fuck off you Russian cunt.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33840628)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 10:56 PM
Author: Underhanded Range

Putin is going to respond to this very simply. He is going to nationalize Exxon's assets in Russia. TY for the free money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33840358)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 11:09 PM
Author: aphrodisiac hot philosopher-king twinkling uncleanness

petrodollar won this thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33840425)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 11:11 PM
Author: comical potus

obviously

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33840436)



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 11:44 PM
Author: cracking blue parlour ape

one of the most brutal gapings in modern xo times

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33840641)



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Date: July 24th, 2017 12:02 AM
Author: Beta abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33840751)



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Date: July 24th, 2017 1:32 AM
Author: sepia gaming laptop friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33841173)



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Date: July 24th, 2017 2:30 AM
Author: comical potus

I'm also impressed with his patience, first in bothering to engage with wlmas at all, and then sticking to the arguments and winning the points while wlmas was just flinging poop like a hysterical monkey in every post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33841390)



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Date: July 24th, 2017 2:44 AM
Author: Vivacious fear-inspiring psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33841410)



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Date: July 24th, 2017 4:13 AM
Author: cracking blue parlour ape



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33841520)



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Date: July 24th, 2017 12:36 PM
Author: aphrodisiac hot philosopher-king twinkling uncleanness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33843190)



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Date: July 24th, 2017 12:43 PM
Author: Supple Piazza Useless Brakes



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33843233)



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Date: July 24th, 2017 2:35 AM
Author: khaki bonkers area

Jesus christ WLMAS is a dullard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33841400)



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Date: July 24th, 2017 2:37 AM
Author: painfully honest impertinent corn cake temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33841402)



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Date: July 24th, 2017 8:57 AM
Author: cyan dragon volcanic crater

(47-yo pedo)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33841799)



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Date: July 24th, 2017 12:41 PM
Author: Supple Piazza Useless Brakes

His regurgitation of talking points from twitter is endless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33843218)



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Date: July 24th, 2017 12:59 PM
Author: twinkling partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33843314)



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Date: July 25th, 2017 2:49 AM
Author: aphrodisiac hot philosopher-king twinkling uncleanness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33849343)



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Date: July 30th, 2017 6:15 PM
Author: Hilarious ebony stead indirect expression



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33886376)



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Date: July 24th, 2017 12:55 PM
Author: Hilarious ebony stead indirect expression

WLMAS really sums up the problem with AA. This guy is an absolute moron yet he thinks his opinion matters because he's AA'd his way into schools and jobs. I bet bosses and professors had to listen to his idiocy because he's black. He really doesn't know his place in the world and it's a problem

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33843294)



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Date: July 24th, 2017 1:00 PM
Author: Supple Piazza Useless Brakes

It's not even about knowing your place, it's about the inability to understand a debate, formulate an original thought, and express it in a given medium.

This thread has shown he's incapable of any of those things.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33843322)



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Date: July 24th, 2017 7:38 PM
Author: khaki bonkers area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33846394)



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Date: July 27th, 2017 10:12 AM
Author: Hilarious ebony stead indirect expression



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33865892)



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Date: July 24th, 2017 7:37 PM
Author: Hilarious ebony stead indirect expression



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33846380)



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Date: July 28th, 2017 1:29 AM
Author: comical potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33872128)



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Date: July 30th, 2017 9:03 PM
Author: aphrodisiac hot philosopher-king twinkling uncleanness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33887290)



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Date: August 2nd, 2017 8:53 AM
Author: comical potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33901920)



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Date: August 6th, 2017 11:29 PM
Author: comical potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3682197&forum_id=2#33933173)