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Date: July 25th, 2017 5:47 AM Author: arousing double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#33849512) |
Date: July 25th, 2017 6:03 AM Author: Stubborn knife base t14? if so you'd have to really fuck up to fail (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#33849518) |
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Date: July 26th, 2017 2:08 AM Author: arousing double fault yes T14 but i didn't study (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#33857193) |
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Date: July 28th, 2018 1:02 PM Author: bearded newt kitchen Stanford: 96 percent UC Berkeley: 89 percent UCLA: 88 percent USC: 88 percent UC Irvine: 83 percent UC Davis: 79 percent Santa Clara: 79 percent San Diego: 78 percent Loyola (LA): 73 percent ABA STATEWIDE AVERAGE: 70 PERCENT Pepperdine: 65 percent California Western: 65 percent Chapman: 64 percent McGeorge: 62 percent UC Hastings: 61 percent Southwestern: 57 percent Western State: 56 percent San Francisco: 54 percent Golden Gate: 51 percent La Verne: 41 percent Whittier: 38 percent Thomas Jefferson: 30 percent |
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Date: July 25th, 2017 6:16 AM Author: nighttime appetizing sandwich did they retard it down this year or next year (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#33849527) |
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Date: July 26th, 2017 2:37 AM Author: arousing double fault it's 2 days not 3 but the content/subjects tested didn't change.
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Date: July 26th, 2017 3:27 AM Author: nighttime appetizing sandwich https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/13/business/dealbook/california-bar-exam.html (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#33857398) |
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Date: July 26th, 2017 3:30 AM Author: arousing double fault (MFE) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#33857400) |
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Date: July 26th, 2017 3:43 AM Author: fear-inspiring big dog poop love of her life wtf, it's only 2 days now? weak shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#33857419) |
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Date: July 26th, 2017 3:59 AM Author: arousing double fault from what i understand they just went from 6 state law essays to 5 and 2 PTs to 1 and put them all on the same day instead of spreading PTs and essays out.
doesn't really seem *that* soft batch. why the fuck would you ever need more than ONE PT?
edit: i'm wrong apparently old format was both tuesday and thursday = three state essays in the morning and one THREE HOUR PT in afternoon.
that's the dumbest fucking thing i've ever heard. who in their right mind could grade a fucking THREE HOUR PT w/o blowing their fucking brains out?
that said i'd be pissed too if i went through that fucking bullshit and passed only to see them switch from warrior mode to beginner a few years later. pretty sure the substance is the same but that's some endurance test bullshit. even texas's 3 day exam only does a half day on tuesday. |
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Date: July 25th, 2017 6:18 AM Author: exciting grizzly juggernaut brethren You're gonna pass. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#33849532) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:49 PM Author: exciting grizzly juggernaut brethren see, I knew you would (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#34714785) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:53 PM Author: arousing double fault yeah thanks man. it didn't feel like it was gonna happen for a few days there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#34714803) |
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Date: July 25th, 2017 8:21 AM Author: federal coiffed church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#33849693) |
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Date: July 25th, 2017 8:27 AM Author: exhilarant hall Well it will be a slow fail then, because it takes three days. Sort of like falling into a black hole while time almost stops. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#33849706) |
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Date: July 25th, 2017 9:10 AM Author: Hyperactive diverse plaza two days now. kids today don't earn it like we had to earn it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#33849825) |
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Date: July 25th, 2017 9:42 AM Author: exhilarant hall (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#33850007) |
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Date: July 26th, 2017 1:46 AM Author: arousing double fault n00b (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#33857114) |
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Date: July 26th, 2017 1:52 AM Author: arousing double fault i had a really great/lucky draw on the mix of essay questions. Got one essay where about 75% was on topics I'd worked on recently, drafting substantial motions or memos (i'm already practicing in another jurisdiction) and had similar luck on multiple subparts (25% or 35% of a question) that were similar, i could recite the authorities by name if i wanted to and could state the issue, rule, etc. in Wright & Miller-esque language.
more important, i had a great draw in terms of subjects i'm not very good NOT being part of any essay and my bad subjects including one of the few ares i was decent at or being combined with something i'm strong in. |
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Date: July 26th, 2017 2:07 AM Author: arousing double fault oh and then the performance test, which i thought was closed universe but was really only semi-closed universe (the instructions explicitly say to use the materials but also your general knowledge of substantive law) was on my favorite topic from law school and the thing i wrote my journal note on. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#33857192) |
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Date: July 26th, 2017 2:08 AM Author: arousing double fault feeling pretty good bros, but now i'm worried i'll jinx it.
didn't open a book until july 10. studied fairly diligently for about 8 days. |
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Date: July 26th, 2017 2:10 AM Author: exciting grizzly juggernaut brethren you're gonna be just fine
now go to bed and be fresh for tomorrow |
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Date: July 26th, 2017 2:36 AM Author: arousing double fault this is the third bar i've taken and for all of them i don't think i've gotten a wink of sleep beyond maybe 4 hours cumulative from the time i got to my hotel on monday until after i turned in my last essay/scantron on wednesday or thursday (3 day bar). even on the two before when i was fairly prepared and studied (decently).
i'll try and sleep in about two hours, but don't have high hopes. just the nature of the assignment, for me apparently. |
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Date: July 26th, 2017 2:42 AM Author: Light puppy You'll pass dude. If you've been practicing at a high level for a few years your general knowledge can really help you coast to a passing score (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#33857304) |
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Date: July 26th, 2017 2:53 AM Author: arousing double fault i really think it helps for trying to BS the essays. even if you don't have a great memorization of the black letter law you can tell from a issue and how it's presented in the fact pattern where they're going or at least the general idea they're trying to steer you towards.
after writing enough briefs you can just throw buzzwords back: fiduciary duty, duty of loyalty, substantial hardship, implicit good faith and fair dealing, etc etc etc. |
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Date: July 26th, 2017 2:37 AM Author: mustard magical mental disorder Lol@the thought that there are still lolschool students who post here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#33857286) |
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Date: July 26th, 2017 2:38 AM Author: arousing double fault (RC n00b)
not in LS. poaster/lurker since the old days (but not as far back as the PR days).
admitted in 2 jurisdictions but my firm wants me admitted in cali. |
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Date: July 26th, 2017 2:40 AM Author: mustard magical mental disorder I'll see you in court! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#33857296) |
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Date: July 26th, 2017 2:55 AM Author: arousing double fault not if i see you first, admiral. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#33857348) |
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Date: July 26th, 2017 2:52 AM Author: supple jade forum macaca "Mr. Hart, would you recite the facts of Hawkins versus McGee?" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#33857334) |
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Date: July 26th, 2017 2:54 AM Author: arousing double fault rented it from blockbuster back in the day, the summer b/w college and 1L but i fell asleep after 35 min. :-/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#33857343) |
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Date: July 26th, 2017 2:55 AM Author: exciting grizzly juggernaut brethren what's the movie? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#33857349) |
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Date: July 26th, 2017 3:09 AM Author: arousing double fault the paper chase (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#33857375) |
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Date: July 26th, 2017 5:02 AM Author: supple jade forum macaca "It's going to cost you a fortune to xerox that Bell." "Maybe I'm not going to xerox it." "What does that mean, maybe you're not gonna xerox it?" "This is a great outline, fantastic. If yours doesn't stack up you won't get a chance to look at it." "Bell's going to have his outline xeroxed just like the rest of us." "Maybe Bell is, and maybe Bell isn't." "The outline is a tool, Bell, a tool, not an end in itself." "I'm going to publish that outline." "The casebook's already been published Bell." "My outline is better than the casebook. Anyway it's going to be longer. I think you're all a bunch of pimps." "You're on a suicide course Bell." "I don't have to sit here and be insulted. One more word out of you Anderson and I'll lock your head in your attache case. How is your outline coming?" "Well I have not yet reached the stage where my outline is reducible to a single word, yet at 50 pages if I may pat myself on the back it's clean and concise." "How about you Kevin?" "It's coming." "Can you tell us how far?" "It'll be ready in four weeks, before exams." "I don't think Kevin has an outline. I think the pimp is holding out on us." "If you ever say pimp in front of me again-" "Pimp" "Jesus!" "You want to know about my outline? It's 800 pages long and it's fantastic. But you'll never see it Ford. Hart is the only one I'm gonna let see it. He's the only one of you who isn't a pimp. I was gonna let you see it Ford but I changed my mind. And as far as the robot pimp goes I was never gonna let that pimp see it anyway." "Get out! You get out of my study group!" "It's a pleasure you pimp." |
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Date: July 26th, 2017 3:22 AM Author: arousing double fault lulzy feature of the whole experience: i'm taking the test in anaheim. the test is at the anaheim convention center (also the convention center is undergoing massive construction work on like 3/4 of the bld so that's a nightmare) which is like 500 ft from the disney parks.
thus, my hotel is completely overrun with beleaguered looking midwestern prole parents and their obese kids screaming "M-I-C K-E-Y ..." and playing in the elevators when i'm trying to get down from my room to the stupid testing center.
i want to murder them all. |
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Date: July 26th, 2017 3:31 AM Author: nighttime appetizing sandwich let proles have some fun in the summer bro jfc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#33857403) |
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Date: July 26th, 2017 3:39 AM Author: arousing double fault stop.
obviously i don't begrudge proles their $200 a head summer theme park "fun." it's just grating as fuck in the morning with my unique circumstance.
let a guy who's having a shitty two weeks because he's taking the fucking bar exam blow off a little steam bro jfc. |
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Date: July 26th, 2017 3:43 AM Author: nighttime appetizing sandwich graduate degree elite in the most prosperous state decries his air conditioned conditions (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#33857421) |
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Date: July 26th, 2017 3:44 AM Author: fear-inspiring big dog poop love of her life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#33857424) |
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Date: July 26th, 2017 3:41 AM Author: arousing double fault lol FMA i keep forgetting that when it's 12 am for me it's 4 am in civilization.
fuck u night crew |
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Date: July 26th, 2017 3:44 AM Author: fear-inspiring big dog poop love of her life California by itself is the 5th largest economy in the world. fuck the east coast. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#33857425) |
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Date: July 26th, 2017 3:46 AM Author: Bistre Talented Sex Offender Market youll be fine.
back when i took the bar it was bar threads all day everyday here so there was a lot of support. too bad there isnt any here.
anyway, if you do your studying, youll knock it out of the park. its not hard, you just have to grind |
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Date: July 26th, 2017 4:00 AM Author: arousing double fault i already didn't grind. i studied for maybe two weeks. but i've passed the bar in two other jur's already and got a pretty lucky draw on the essays so we'll see. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#33857440) |
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Date: July 26th, 2017 5:06 AM Author: Fighting menage filthpig Race? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#33857506) |
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Date: July 29th, 2017 1:30 PM Author: arousing double fault risten, risten ... chill rite bro hear... i rika ronald yay rump a'rong time! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#33879896) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2017 4:52 AM Author: Pale hairless corn cake brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#33901622) |
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Date: November 6th, 2017 7:46 PM Author: arousing double fault have like two weeks or a little less to go before results FMA (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#34620362) |
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Date: November 6th, 2017 8:46 PM Author: Ruby glittery locus Where will you go when it's time to check results (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#34620720) |
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Date: November 6th, 2017 9:27 PM Author: arousing double fault idk whatever website it is i'm supposed to go to i guess. haven't looked at that shit since i flew home. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#34620974) |
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Date: November 6th, 2017 8:50 PM Author: Razzle mad cow disease do u have a jerb? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#34620756) |
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Date: November 6th, 2017 9:27 PM Author: arousing double fault yes i'm already an atty working in another jurisdiction (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#34620977) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 9:52 PM Author: arousing double fault passed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#34714197) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 9:52 PM Author: Aphrodisiac public bath new version Congrats brother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#34714201) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 9:52 PM Author: sienna sound barrier 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#34714206) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 9:54 PM Author: Laughsome Telephone Grats what will u do (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#34714218) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:41 PM Author: arousing double fault start making appearances in cali on my firms cases i guess. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#34714753) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 9:54 PM Author: Bateful Spot Roast Beef 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#34714225) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 9:55 PM Author: Thriller flickering foreskin sup fellow cali barmo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#34714226) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 9:57 PM Author: exciting grizzly juggernaut brethren (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#34714242) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 9:58 PM Author: Swashbuckling black woman stain 180! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#34714262) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:41 PM Author: claret persian grats breh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#34714757) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:54 PM Author: Ruby glittery locus Congrats! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#34714804) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 12:06 AM Author: Aquamarine provocative athletic conference boistinker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#34714861) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 9:52 PM Author: 180 Bbw Round Eye lol @ bar-takers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#34714202) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 9:55 PM Author: Vivacious Khaki Kitty Cat Temple congrats.
i was happy my state had the performance test.
i didn't even prepare for it. know for a fact i knocked it out of the park. that's one thing i can do very well. |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:41 PM Author: arousing double fault performances test was probably key. i made up law on 2 of the 5 substantive essays. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#34714756) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:42 PM Author: Transparent jet-lagged philosopher-king scourge upon the earth barbri ? |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:47 PM Author: arousing double fault nah just bought a cali CMR off ebay. did ~50 practice MBE questions total. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#34714777) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:50 PM Author: Transparent jet-lagged philosopher-king scourge upon the earth weird flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#34714788) |
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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:54 PM Author: arousing double fault working full time in another jx, man. don't see the point of setting up this flame five months ago. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#34714809) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 12:53 AM Author: arousing double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#34715031) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:19 AM Author: supple jade forum macaca It would help if the bar exam covered the law of the state, but that would make too much sense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#34715101) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:32 AM Author: arousing double fault there seemed to be a bunch of cali distinctions on civ pro/evidence/etc. when i was reading barbri. but i mostly skipped over them/just went with federal rule on essays. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#34715145) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:35 AM Author: Sickened Gold Set Doctorate You basically have to learn civ pro and family law for each state. If you're a transactional attorney the bar is fucking worthless. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#34715159) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 3:23 AM Author: Pale hairless corn cake brunch states whose civ pro rules don't replicate FRCP are TTTTTT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#34715496) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 5:48 PM Author: arousing double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#34719069) |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 7:34 PM Author: bearded newt kitchen Stanford: 96 percent UC Berkeley: 89 percent UCLA: 88 percent USC: 88 percent UC Irvine: 83 percent UC Davis: 79 percent Santa Clara: 79 percent San Diego: 78 percent Loyola (LA): 73 percent ABA STATEWIDE AVERAGE: 70 PERCENT Pepperdine: 65 percent California Western: 65 percent Chapman: 64 percent McGeorge: 62 percent UC Hastings: 61 percent Southwestern: 57 percent Western State: 56 percent San Francisco: 54 percent Golden Gate: 51 percent La Verne: 41 percent Whittier: 38 percent Thomas Jefferson: 30 percent |
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Date: December 27th, 2017 7:36 PM Author: Laughsome Telephone Ljl at chilmata (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#35021185) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 5:37 PM Author: arousing double fault reminder for bros who are stressing about the bar (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#36432056) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2018 8:21 PM Author: arousing double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#36477327) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2018 8:24 PM Author: Fuchsia Wonderful Station What were you averaging on question setsb (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#36477350) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2018 8:30 PM Author: arousing double fault i literally didn't do any practice MBE's other than what was available for free online--one set of questions per subject.
then around midnight the day before the MBE i broke down and spent like ~$100 for a set of questions from the NCBE, but i didn't end up doing that many of them, but reviewing them during the break helped.
the last bar exam i did before California i think my average was something like:
Crim: 85% Torts: 80% Evidence: 80% Con Law: 75% Contracts: 70% Real Property: 30% |
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Date: July 22nd, 2018 8:34 PM Author: Fuchsia Wonderful Station Lol what is this flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#36477407) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2018 8:39 PM Author: arousing double fault this is 100% NOT FLAME brother.
i literally didn't even know they'd added civ pro to the MBE until like 3 days before i took the test, although it probably ended up helping me since i do lit, thus the 12(b)(6), summary judgment, directed verdict type questions were very easy for me. |
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Date: July 22nd, 2018 8:46 PM Author: razzmatazz principal's office amazing if true (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#36477488) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2018 8:47 PM Author: Fuchsia Wonderful Station Tbf I was averaging in the sixties when I first started studying, so I guess if you kill the essays it’s possible. Most bros try to kill the MBE though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#36477495) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2018 8:52 PM Author: arousing double fault i crushed three of the essays and probably did passable on the other two. i absolutely fucking crushed the performance test.
if i had to guess at how i did on the MBE i'd say i was probably in the mid to high 60% range. i think they say 68.5% right on the MBE correlates exactly to the scaled 144 cut score. i would guess that i passed by the skin of my teeth, but who knows? |
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Date: July 28th, 2018 11:47 AM Author: racy range idea he suggested Please explain, with specificity, how you crushed the PT. Think I screwed it up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#36512874) |
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Date: July 28th, 2018 1:16 PM Author: Fuchsia Wonderful Station How did you screw up? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#36513163) |
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Date: July 28th, 2018 1:27 PM Author: racy range idea he suggested I mean I wrote an intro paragraph as you would in a brief. Then three paragraphs under each heading. First was sort of intro, second was distinguishing or analogizinf the case, third was conclusion. Feel like I needed way more headings and analysis. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#36513211) |
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Date: July 28th, 2018 1:29 PM Author: Fuchsia Wonderful Station Eh I did two headings only lol. I feel like it would have been easy for graders to follow though. What more headings would you need? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#36513224) |
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Date: July 28th, 2018 10:48 PM Author: racy range idea he suggested Saw people saying a heading for moral turpitude definition heading for clear and convincing then the conduct itself. Idk. Feel like I didn’t write nearly enough. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#36515202) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2018 9:55 PM Author: arousing double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#36477890) |
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Date: July 24th, 2018 8:51 AM Author: razzmatazz principal's office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#36486134) |
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Date: September 14th, 2018 7:07 PM Author: arousing double fault promised self i'd fill out the moral character application by this sunday at the latest but omfg i don't wanna do this shit rn (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#36810169) |
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Date: September 14th, 2018 7:10 PM Author: Fuchsia Wonderful Station How long does it take to hear back? Do you have to collect shit from your employers and school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3684239&forum_id=2#36810183) |