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Date: August 8th, 2017 4:43 PM Author: Vengeful unholy school Asking for a friend. Google, amazon, apple, ??? Where else. Regulatory and government stuff. Not corporate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33943899) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 5:07 PM Author: Bearded garrison kitty cat Not google/amazon/apple. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33944034) |
Date: August 8th, 2017 4:44 PM Author: cracking unhinged hospital those are literally some of the worst companies to work for (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33943910) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 4:45 PM Author: Cerebral lodge personal credit line those places suck dick. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33943920) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 4:52 PM Author: Vengeful unholy school Why? I thought they care great lifestyle etc. Where would you recommend? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33943953) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 4:52 PM Author: Irradiated effete corn cake Any particular area (e.g., banking, energy, etc)? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33943955) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 4:58 PM Author: Fighting orchid headpube legend Cellular telephone company, e.g., Verizon. Any big electric utility or holding company, e.g, Duke. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33943981) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 5:06 PM Author: Vengeful unholy school What's good about big utility companies? Don't they have low pay? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33944023) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 5:04 PM Author: Vivacious philosopher-king genital piercing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33944013) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 5:07 PM Author: Vengeful unholy school How do you get a job at those companies? Need connections? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33944027) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 5:15 PM Author: Vivacious philosopher-king genital piercing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33944075) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 5:08 PM Author: Bearded garrison kitty cat Amazon does not pay anywhere near $250K for counsel level attorneys. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33944039) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 5:14 PM Author: Vivacious philosopher-king genital piercing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33944070) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 5:16 PM Author: Bearded garrison kitty cat At counsel level? I know three dudes who work there all making less than $200k. They must have really wanted you.
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Date: August 8th, 2017 5:18 PM Author: Vivacious philosopher-king genital piercing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33944099) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 5:23 PM Author: Bearded garrison kitty cat All three are technically part of corp. legal but are parked at subsidiary companies. Maybe that has something to do with it. Neither of them has a highly impressive background - TII/III school, regional midlaw, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33944118) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 5:28 PM Author: Idiotic rigor factory reset button This has everything to do with it lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33944144) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 5:36 PM Author: impertinent indian lodge wrinkle haha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33944189) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 7:54 PM Author: bossy amber private investor That sounds like a ton of money. Why would you turn it down, are they working biglaw hours? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33945084) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 8:18 PM Author: Vivacious philosopher-king genital piercing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33945240) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 5:37 PM Author: Exhilarant Light Partner This is not correct, friend. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33944199) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 7:30 PM Author: Cruel-hearted azure abode quadroon This is very correct friend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33944940) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 5:38 PM Author: Low-t Love Of Her Life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33944205) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 8:32 PM Author: cracking unhinged hospital (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33945322) |
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Date: August 9th, 2017 12:08 AM Author: stirring location (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33946927) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 5:38 PM Author: Low-t Love Of Her Life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33944207) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 5:43 PM Author: salmon mind-boggling national security agency milk Lol, i couldn't wait a full 90 min (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33944238) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 7:31 PM Author: costumed spectacular jewess (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33944949) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 5:09 PM Author: Bearded garrison kitty cat What year level is your friend? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33944041) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 5:31 PM Author: Idiotic rigor factory reset button Non-tech/non-finance F500. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33944158) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 5:37 PM Author: Exhilarant Light Partner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33944195) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 5:37 PM Author: Hyperactive Submissive Den Really Tough Guy Best answer: most trade associations
Places I know happy lawyers:BlackRock, Cap Group, TRowe, Vanguard, Fidelity, Dimensional, etc.
Kinder Morgan, InBev, Cargill
also know guys at Broadridge and DTC who swear by financial services back office companies. |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 5:53 PM Author: salmon mind-boggling national security agency milk Financial services back office is chill but doesn't go anywhere. The other places are decent if you're the institutional investing side or alternative assets, but not retail. Coordinating 15c letters for fidelity and vanguard's mutual funds is pretty awful.
Honestly I think if you want to do financial services, working in a family office or outsourced CIO type place is the way to go...not cutthroat or volatile like a hedge fund that can go belly up easily but also not cookie cutter like you're in an army of 1000 lawyers at state street or whatever who never advance. |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 5:58 PM Author: Irradiated effete corn cake At large financial institutions it's all about getting the right rabbi. The problem is that you don't know if u have a shitty mgr or not until you're a few months in. Although, large institutions allow for moving within the company, which is nice. The key to getting the right comp etc is to have them do a buy back by presenting an offer from a competitor. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33944348) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 7:27 PM Author: Hyperactive Submissive Den Really Tough Guy In the funds space I'm most familiar with the product side and some regulatory work. I agree that dealing with investors is suboptimal.
I still think trades are the best if you're in a good industry. |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 8:32 PM Author: cracking unhinged hospital surprisingly cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33945326) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 9:04 PM Author: Electric fear-inspiring rigpig regret Fidelity/vanguard/etc have a lot of terrible roles you'd need to avoid, but culturally respect lawyers so if you end up coordinating M&A, facing the regulators on difficult issues etc. that type of role can have great pay and reasonable hours. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33945563) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 9:09 PM Author: Hyperactive Submissive Den Really Tough Guy What are the ones you'd regard as terrible? I don't know any unhappy (good) lawyers at the fund shops. There are TTTs who wander into crappy legal roles, but I don't really think they should count for this purpose. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33945602) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 7:46 PM Author: Galvanic Magenta Doctorate Sneaky Criminal why didnt you expand on trade associations? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33945050) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 8:59 PM Author: Hyperactive Submissive Den Really Tough Guy I went on at length about them in some semi-recent thread where a poaster was bemoaning the job market in DC. What ya wanna know? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33945512) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 9:08 PM Author: Vengeful unholy school How is the pay? What jobs are you talking about? GC? Other? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33945598) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 9:32 PM Author: Hyperactive Submissive Den Really Tough Guy I'm a weird specialty-mo. Did ~5 years BigLaw, ~2yrs BigFed, ~3 yrs BigLobbying, and now I am BigFinancialServices. Made my year-equivalent BigLaw base with no bonus at the trade. Kept the base and got more bonus moving in-house.
I was very happy at my trade association plying my specialty. It's an interesting hybrid role. The real lobbyists viewed me as their technical guy. The real technical people at the member firms and law firms viewed me as their connected industry and regulator guy. Everyone viewed me as a hub of information for our specialty within the industry. You'll do a LOT of speaking and need extremely good soft skills for a law geek.
The industry itself matters a great deal. In financial services the Investment Company Institute (registered funds), American Bankers, Chamber of Commerce, American Life Insurance Council, and a few others are good for lawyers. SIFMA (representing the brokers) less so. I don't think you could get me to the Managed Funds Association (representing the hedge funds) for 50% more money.
The most important part is how visible the lawyers at trades are. Everyone in your niche will know you (for better or worse). You'll get offers to go back to firms (as a partner, with the understanding that you'll use your industry contacts to generate business. I would really have needed to stay longer to feel confident I could make that work.), to regulatory boutiques, and, best of all, to your member companies. If there is a member you really like, based in a city you would like to move to, just cozy up and bide your time. And you should have enough contact with the members that you'll know their people and culture well, making that in-house move much lower risk. |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 9:43 PM Author: Snowy Vibrant Station Ty. Sounds like your industry pays more than mine. I am fairly certain none of the industry association lawyers are making more than 175k. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33945840) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 7:30 PM Author: Cruel-hearted azure abode quadroon high money, high stress: financial services, tech low money, low stress: F500 corporate in house lottery: startups |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 7:40 PM Author: Talking Masturbator What's the best industry if you want to go biz side? Startups? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33945009) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 7:45 PM Author: bossy amber private investor nutella, you said in the other thread that defense contracting is a bad industry--why? The aggressiveness of finance without the pay? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33945040) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 7:54 PM Author: salmon mind-boggling national security agency milk My husband works in the defense industry on the engineering side. It is basically a govt job with the amount of red tape and inefficiencies that exists. There are boomer engineers there who don't use email and don't know certain software and they have pensions and will never be fired. Meanwhile, the younger people don't have pensions. Also the pay sucks and promotions highly politicized and not based on merit. I can't imagine lawyers there make great money. It is certainly a chill job though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33945083) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 7:54 PM Author: Vengeful unholy school I think it's feast or famine. When the govt money dries up it dries up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33945086) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 8:00 PM Author: salmon mind-boggling national security agency milk The govt will dole out contracts evenly to make sure the big ones won't have issues. Northrop got the b-21 stealth bomber so somebody else will get the next big thing. It's also easy to move to a competitor if you have the right security clearance (SCI) so it's a very stable industry overall. That's how my husband is getting promotions since he can't do it just by getting his 3-5% every year when new hires are getting more money than him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33945120) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 8:42 PM Author: bossy amber private investor ty. And yeah it sucks when companies make you leave, but I've seen people in all sorts of industries profit by switching to competitors for every promotion. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33945390) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 8:21 PM Author: underhanded theatre prob middle market emerging company (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33945264) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 8:53 PM Author: Electric fear-inspiring rigpig regret Most conservative industriesas ranked by: http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2014/11/20/which_industries_are_the_most_liberal_and_most_conservative.html , with a skew toward O&G if you prefer Texas and toward finance if you prefer NYC. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33945476) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 9:12 PM Author: carmine naked hall degenerate Private equity fund of one with IA and IC registration exemption and 8 investment exits (5 blind pool) and equity to give (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33945621) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 9:13 PM Author: know-it-all jap shrine IMHO a medium sized company that does something cool and you can rise into GC and cop lots of DAT STOCK. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33945630) |
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Date: August 8th, 2017 11:43 PM Author: flesh ratface the best in house job i ever heard of was at a bigoil. 40 hour week, good pay, negotiating international deals, hiring the biggest of big law. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3695625&forum_id=2#33946802) |
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