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Date: August 9th, 2017 11:33 AM Author: Irradiated tantric toilet seat gunner
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Weird how a roughly 15 point IQ gap survived through desegregation, voting rights for blacks, massive amounts of new federal programs for the poor, affirmative action, "Diversity" campaigns designed to raise the status of African Americans etc. Wonder why that could be? My hypothesis is that there was an offsetting massive increase in the nebulous forces of institutional racism. Gotta be that.
Thoughts, xo?
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Date: August 9th, 2017 10:12 PM Author: ruby crackhouse
Even yo nigga "Shitlaw" Steve Sailer admits that comparing *net worth* instead of income shrinks this disparity and points to a regression to mean theory as the explanation.
http://isteve.blogspot.com/2014/03/2008-sat-scores-by-race-by-income.html?m=1
Also I'm not sure how motivated I would be to gun for those extra 150 points if I knew I was already getting into my state flagship without them. Comparing that group to the group who gets shit on the most other than poor Asians in college admissions is clearly apples and oranges. I've never been able to get a satisfactory answer on how selection bias might alter this stat since poor blacks can still get into college with very low scores and poor whites can't. But it does underscore a basic truth that focusing all our resources on giving extra boosts to rich black people seems like a dumb way to address the issue, albeit a good way to maximize tuition paid.
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Date: August 9th, 2017 11:57 AM Author: Sienna rigor site
idk i'm not a proponent of the argument, but its something like, iq as a measurement is flawed, iq tests are flawed (which i think we can all agree with), how do you properly sample across races, cultural differences can account for a lot of the disparity, and the favorite shitlib line that "race is a fiction" ("Richwine’s first mistake was related to race. He assumes that any differences in IQ documented between races are an indication, at least in part, of contrasting racial genetics. As others have commented, his entire enterprise is doomed from the start because, while human diversity is real, race is a fiction. Human beings don’t come in a set number of biologically distinct categories. Racial designations are historical inventions that vary across countries and over time in the United States. There are some genetic markers that vary by region, such as sickle cell anemia, but none that systematically vary by the invented categories we know as race. Race is a figment of the imagination." - http://www.politico.com/story/2013/08/jason-richwine-race-iq-genetics-095765)
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Date: August 9th, 2017 11:59 AM Author: Vibrant Brilliant Abode Faggot Firefighter
Japanese in 1908: living in feudalism with medieval weaponry and society
Japanese in 2018: Sex robots, bullet trains, Nintendo Switches, and virtual reality anime porn
Africans in 1908: live in mud huts
Africans in 2018: live in mud huts with AIDS
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Date: August 9th, 2017 12:11 PM Author: 180 fluffy yarmulke
Chinese will start genetically modifying for IQ and IQ in the Americas will sink to Brazil level. World will be:
Asia, really smart
Americas: dumbish
Europe/ME: dumb
Africa: sos
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Date: August 9th, 2017 7:24 PM Author: Sapphire comical home
people overestimate the difficulty of getting to AGI. my basic thinking aligns with this article:
http://lesswrong.com/lw/md2/the_brain_as_a_universal_learning_machine/
the strong progress in many domains through deep learning systems (model-free reinforcement learning, vision, audio recognition etc) seems to validate the view the learning algorithms the brain uses are probably not very complex. DeepMind's latest RL algorithm beats humans at 40 out of 57 Atari games. transfer learning and model-based RL are still unresolved problems, but the capabilities of existing algorithms are still extremely impressive considering where we were just a few years ago.
i increasingly believe Shane Legg's predicted date of around 2026 is not going to be very far off.
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Date: August 12th, 2017 2:02 AM Author: hairraiser library
As someone who has worked extensively in machine learning / statistics - I would say it's the opposite - rather that people underestimate the difficulty of getting AGI.
You also have to look at how much the tech world relies and will continue to rely on the hype of AI for selling its products - every customer service chat bot is being marketed as an "AI" now as one simple example. So on one level the incentives are greatly skewed towards overhyping the progress we've made towards AGI.
The average person, even the average "technologist" who keeps up closely with all this while not formerly trained in math / ai, doesn't realize how separate AGI is from marginal improvements in some deep learning application or reinforcement learning task of a computer playing GO or whatever game. So an advance was made in RL that now the deepmind algorithm DESTROYS everyone at GO when it only won ~80% of games a few years ago (nevermind the specific numbers) - what does that really get us in terms of AGI?
The problem with AGI is not with some performance metrics on an algorithm that's just not quite good enough yet, the problem with AGI is that it's an insanely complex problem that we don't even understand yet how to structure and how it would fully work.
So when we see advancements in "AI", for example a new deep learning algorithm has substantially improved its image classification / performance accuracy, for the short term this is a big deal b/c it gets us machines that can mimic narrow human tasks with great performance that closely resembles (or even beats) human performance. So we will first see an explosion of "AI" products that are extremely good at doing those narrow tasks - but taking that and generalizing it to some fully functioning AGI is not only a long ways off, but a completely different type and structure of problem to solve than "increase this algorithm's performance on GO or audio classification or whatever.
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Date: August 9th, 2017 1:16 PM Author: stirring lime travel guidebook
Here is a study that looked at kids adopted by "advantaged white families"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Transracial_Adoption_Study#Results
Advantaged White parent Average IQ when child is 17 = 115
Average IQ at 17 of white non-adopted kids = 109
Average IQ at 17 of white adopted kids = 106
Average IQ at 17 of mulatto adopted kids = 99
Average IQ at 17 of black adopted kids = 89
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Date: August 9th, 2017 1:53 PM Author: stirring lime travel guidebook
it's asian/"indigenous", and looks to have been a mix of injuns, latinos, low IQ vietnamese, and koreans
"Asian and indigenous American children came from Minnesota as well as from Korea, Vietnam, Canada and Ecuador."
The average IQ of these different groups vary by huge amounts (koreans 105ish, viet mid 90s, american indians low 90s, latinos in the high 80s to low 90s)
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Date: August 9th, 2017 6:10 PM Author: spectacular dilemma
In reality iq is probably closer to 80% genetic. 10 points for a large pop is huge. Particularly when it's probably the most important factor in a nations success. However, focusing only on IQ only tells a small slice of the story.
Hbd research shows a whole host of other outcomes are predicated on your genes, eg there are genes for delayed gratification, violence, empathy etc. That's to say nothing of how various groups have learned overtime to implicitly favor others who have tells hinting at similar lineage.
That said, it shouldn't be a basis to discriminate against individuals.
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Date: August 9th, 2017 2:24 PM Author: Self-centered confused party of the first part kitty
"which include not studying or taking school seriously"
Shouldn't be a problem.
https://files.catbox.moe/p5kcbb.png
No school learnin' needed.
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