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How much can you negotiate on in-house salary if you don't need to leave firm?

If you are approached by a client for an in-house position, ...
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hyperventilating racy mad cow disease
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Lmao unless you have some ridiculously nuanced expertise, or...
Ruddy death wish
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Why is in-house salary so terrible
soul-stirring cruise ship
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In terms of corp jobs, mid-high $100s is a pretty good outco...
mischievous impertinent really tough guy
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Yikes
Zippy brunch
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Why are the only options in the legal market 350k at a law f...
hyperventilating racy mad cow disease
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There are... you probably move down to a smaller firm with s...
cracking electric furnace
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Plenty of in house jobs paying $200-$250k+ for mid levels.
Dashing old irish cottage
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Like what? The only ones I know of are in tech and finance.
beady-eyed judgmental stead
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soul-stirring cruise ship
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Tech and finance are two huge industries with thousands of j...
Dashing old irish cottage
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This is accurate for big companies. If you max out your sala...
aphrodisiac center therapy
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Ty
hyperventilating racy mad cow disease
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Does the "buy back" strategy let you get around th...
hyperventilating racy mad cow disease
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Yeah kind of, In effect you're just forcing them to promote ...
Ruddy death wish
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Not sure how buy-backs work elsewhere, but its not unusual a...
aphrodisiac center therapy
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Yep. Try for a signing bonus. I finnagled $50k that way
Milky Arousing Round Eye Piazza
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Unless you're a partner being recruited specifically for a c...
Dashing old irish cottage
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I've heard of people negotiating effectively in this situati...
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Date: August 15th, 2017 3:33 PM
Author: hyperventilating racy mad cow disease

If you are approached by a client for an in-house position, how much leeway (if any) is normal on salary? Do they generally stick close to what they have paid others in the same position (I.e., what you see on glassdoor)?

Asking for a friend.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3701909&forum_id=2#33994893)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 3:39 PM
Author: hyperventilating racy mad cow disease



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Date: August 15th, 2017 3:52 PM
Author: hyperventilating racy mad cow disease



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Date: August 15th, 2017 4:08 PM
Author: hyperventilating racy mad cow disease



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Date: August 15th, 2017 4:11 PM
Author: Ruddy death wish

Lmao unless you have some ridiculously nuanced expertise, or you're at the deputy GC level or above, you have very little leverage. Even if they offer at the bottom of the pay band, you're only going to be able to negotiate up 10-20k MAX

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Date: August 15th, 2017 4:37 PM
Author: soul-stirring cruise ship

Why is in-house salary so terrible

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Date: August 15th, 2017 4:42 PM
Author: mischievous impertinent really tough guy

In terms of corp jobs, mid-high $100s is a pretty good outcome.

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Date: August 15th, 2017 4:48 PM
Author: Zippy brunch

Yikes

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Date: August 15th, 2017 5:19 PM
Author: hyperventilating racy mad cow disease

Why are the only options in the legal market 350k at a law firm or 150k in house? Why aren't there options in the middle? This seems very inefficient.

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Date: August 15th, 2017 5:51 PM
Author: cracking electric furnace

There are... you probably move down to a smaller firm with slight better QOL for less money. Senior associates in tertiary cities probably make like $200-$250k with decent chances of making partner.

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Date: August 15th, 2017 6:14 PM
Author: Dashing old irish cottage

Plenty of in house jobs paying $200-$250k+ for mid levels.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3701909&forum_id=2#33996311)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 6:29 PM
Author: beady-eyed judgmental stead

Like what? The only ones I know of are in tech and finance.

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Date: August 15th, 2017 6:33 PM
Author: beady-eyed judgmental stead



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Date: August 15th, 2017 8:13 PM
Author: soul-stirring cruise ship



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Date: August 15th, 2017 8:27 PM
Author: Dashing old irish cottage

Tech and finance are two huge industries with thousands of jobs.

Outside of that, I know people who work in random in house companies like Toyota, Mattel, various pharma companies, etc who have $200k in house jobs. Entertainment studio type jobs and insurance industry jobs pay poorly as an industry so avoid those.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3701909&forum_id=2#33997407)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 4:41 PM
Author: aphrodisiac center therapy

This is accurate for big companies. If you max out your salary demands, you can try for a sign-on bonus (but it's generally not a lot). Passing the salary band would require approvals to bump your title, etc, which is a real pain in the ass to get approvals for.

Also raises vary by company, some ppl get a small 2% bump every year while others get like a 10% bump every other year, etc. If you want to do it right, you need to do the buy-back -- get an offer from a competitor and have your company match.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3701909&forum_id=2#33995552)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 5:15 PM
Author: hyperventilating racy mad cow disease

Ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3701909&forum_id=2#33995850)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 5:16 PM
Author: hyperventilating racy mad cow disease

Does the "buy back" strategy let you get around their procedural rules for exceeding the salary bands?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3701909&forum_id=2#33995860)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 5:38 PM
Author: Ruddy death wish

Yeah kind of, In effect you're just forcing them to promote you. They'll put you in a different band before they make one off exceptions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3701909&forum_id=2#33996061)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 5:47 PM
Author: aphrodisiac center therapy

Not sure how buy-backs work elsewhere, but its not unusual at my place. Some complain that it's unfair to the loyal employees, but it's like, senior mgt has obviously showed you the play book -- just follow it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3701909&forum_id=2#33996113)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 6:22 PM
Author: Milky Arousing Round Eye Piazza

Yep. Try for a signing bonus. I finnagled $50k that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3701909&forum_id=2#33996379)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 4:41 PM
Author: Dashing old irish cottage

Unless you're a partner being recruited specifically for a c-suite (or similarly senior) position, you have little leverage. There are hundreds of other biglaw associates willing to work for less money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3701909&forum_id=2#33995550)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 4:46 PM
Author: orchid territorial church

I've heard of people negotiating effectively in this situation by threatening to go in-house to a competitor (assumes you have some specific valuable institutional knowledge / experience).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3701909&forum_id=2#33995595)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 5:35 PM
Author: hyperventilating racy mad cow disease



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Date: August 15th, 2017 9:06 PM
Author: soul-stirring cruise ship



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