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People use the term "six figure salary" wrongly

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Never heard the phrases low- or mid-six-figures, dummy?
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Date: August 21st, 2017 9:51 AM
Author: Canary fantasy-prone place of business

If you make $150k-$200k you are no better than the $80-99k people. Whenever anyone brags that they're making "six figures", they're using technicalities and not understanding what the phrase is really supposed to imply in terms of quality of life.

A real six figure salary needs to start with a 4 or higher as the first number. Those making a real six figure salary are making $400k to $700k.



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Date: August 21st, 2017 9:52 AM
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Date: August 21st, 2017 9:52 AM
Author: Canary fantasy-prone place of business

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Date: August 21st, 2017 4:39 PM
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 2:40 AM
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Date: August 21st, 2017 3:37 PM
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Date: August 21st, 2017 11:20 PM
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Date: August 27th, 2017 11:11 AM
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Date: August 21st, 2017 3:37 PM
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Date: August 21st, 2017 3:43 PM
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Date: August 21st, 2017 4:23 PM
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Date: August 21st, 2017 4:30 PM
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Date: August 21st, 2017 7:56 PM
Author: Elite meetinghouse

I don't get it

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Date: August 21st, 2017 8:48 PM
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Date: August 27th, 2017 11:17 AM
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Date: August 21st, 2017 9:53 AM
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Date: August 21st, 2017 9:53 AM
Author: gold weed whacker

Never heard the phrases low- or mid-six-figures, dummy?

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Date: August 21st, 2017 9:56 AM
Author: Canary fantasy-prone place of business

No one talks like this when bragging.

Usually it's the guy in a dive bar or girl at brunch who is stating "well at least i'm making SIX FIGURES".

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Date: August 21st, 2017 10:09 AM
Author: gold weed whacker

And yet you know exactly what they mean, and so does everyone else. If they were making $400k they wouldn't just call it "six figures" if they're trying to brag.

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Date: August 21st, 2017 11:15 AM
Author: Canary fantasy-prone place of business

not really...

so what should someone making $400k say?

just "i make $400k"? lol

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Date: August 21st, 2017 11:16 AM
Author: charismatic background story

"Almost half a mill

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Date: August 21st, 2017 11:18 AM
Author: Canary fantasy-prone place of business

how about $700k

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Date: August 21st, 2017 11:20 AM
Author: charismatic background story

Three quarters a mill

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Date: August 21st, 2017 11:20 AM
Author: Canary fantasy-prone place of business

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Date: August 21st, 2017 11:18 AM
Author: thirsty circlehead people who are hurt

if i made 400k, id say i make a shit ton of money. i automatically assume anyone who refers to 'six figures' is in the lower end of six figures since they find the distinction meaningful

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Date: August 21st, 2017 11:20 AM
Author: gold weed whacker

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Date: August 21st, 2017 11:24 AM
Author: carmine beady-eyed brethren



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Date: August 21st, 2017 11:29 AM
Author: Charcoal concupiscible laser beams coffee pot

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Date: August 21st, 2017 11:33 AM
Author: charismatic background story

"i'm doing ok"

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Date: August 21st, 2017 11:37 AM
Author: Red Soggy Principal's Office

lol, cr.

it's like how nobody who went to Harvard Law says they went to a Tier 1 or T14. They say HYS.

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Date: August 21st, 2017 8:43 PM
Author: Swollen appetizing azn

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Making six figures is only something you boast about if you're just over $100,000

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Date: August 21st, 2017 3:43 PM
Author: Effete quadroon

well into six figures

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Date: August 21st, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: Canary fantasy-prone place of business

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Date: August 21st, 2017 8:44 PM
Author: Swollen appetizing azn

I'd just say I make a good income if I had to say something. Let them figure out what that might be.

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Date: August 27th, 2017 11:09 AM
Author: Wild potus

Vulgar. Do people actually do this?

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Date: August 21st, 2017 10:01 AM
Author: Crawly Plaza

no way man, I just got into six figures a couple years ago and It'll be forever before I get to the 2s.

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Date: August 21st, 2017 10:08 AM
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Date: August 21st, 2017 11:14 AM
Author: charismatic background story

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Date: August 21st, 2017 11:15 AM
Author: Territorial learning disabled pervert box office

did you grow up wealthy? that's the only way someone who makes 400k would whine about being "poor" all the time.

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Date: August 21st, 2017 11:16 AM
Author: charismatic background story

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My dad made 30k

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Date: August 21st, 2017 11:18 AM
Author: Territorial learning disabled pervert box office

how tf are you so entitled.

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Date: August 21st, 2017 11:20 AM
Author: charismatic background story

I think you mistake shit ppl spew on xo for truth

Also, in SF houses cost 2 mill, so 400k really isn't that much

It's like 100k in flyover

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3707446&forum_id=2#34036938)



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Date: August 21st, 2017 11:25 AM
Author: carmine beady-eyed brethren

You can pretty easily afford a house for 100k in flyover

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3707446&forum_id=2#34036971)



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Date: August 21st, 2017 11:26 AM
Author: thirsty circlehead people who are hurt

a pretty nice house with a backyard and a ton of space

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3707446&forum_id=2#34036974)



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Date: August 21st, 2017 11:26 AM
Author: Crawly Plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3707446&forum_id=2#34036976)



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Date: August 21st, 2017 11:32 AM
Author: Territorial learning disabled pervert box office

no one is forcing you to live in the finest neighborhood in palo alto, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3707446&forum_id=2#34037018)



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Date: August 21st, 2017 11:33 AM
Author: charismatic background story

lol brother, palo alto houses are $4-5 million, not 2. i could never afford to live there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3707446&forum_id=2#34037024)



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Date: August 21st, 2017 11:44 AM
Author: Multi-colored state

Cr phase is "on par with or greater than a six figure salary in Hastings, Nebraska"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3707446&forum_id=2#34037122)



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Date: August 21st, 2017 3:32 PM
Author: chrome embarrassed to the bone lodge

cr phrase is "fuck off faggot"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3707446&forum_id=2#34038794)



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Date: August 21st, 2017 3:38 PM
Author: Multi-colored state

I usually go to "Nigger!!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3707446&forum_id=2#34038837)



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Date: August 21st, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: chrome embarrassed to the bone lodge

das rasis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3707446&forum_id=2#34038847)



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Date: August 21st, 2017 11:20 PM
Author: vibrant mauve menage gay wizard

(koolaid man)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3707446&forum_id=2#34042297)



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Date: August 21st, 2017 7:41 PM
Author: startling rambunctious heaven boltzmann

lol at wrongly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3707446&forum_id=2#34040531)



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Date: August 24th, 2017 10:55 PM
Author: mildly autistic well-lubricated location



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3707446&forum_id=2#34063362)



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Date: August 27th, 2017 11:17 AM
Author: dashing mother dopamine

So what do you say if you make over $700k?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3707446&forum_id=2#34077504)