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Date: August 22nd, 2017 10:20 PM Author: Buck-toothed Wagecucks Incel its so bad I actual fantasize about being a lawyer during the day just so I don't have to make another 40 cold calls (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34049287) |
Date: August 22nd, 2017 10:28 PM Author: Buck-toothed Wagecucks Incel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34049353) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 10:34 PM Author: electric unhinged locus chad Dude nothing is worse than law (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34049403) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 10:36 PM Author: Buck-toothed Wagecucks Incel I really think that's wrong, especially if you're cold calling all day and nobody's hear of you before. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34049409) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 11:19 PM Author: Marvelous property These guys are sheltered and have no idea how shitty other jobs can be
Law is shitty.cold calling is far shittiet |
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Date: August 23rd, 2017 12:45 PM Author: Brilliant idiot locale (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34052429) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 10:36 PM Author: charismatic location (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34049410) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2017 1:50 PM Author: crimson adventurous jew Cold calls are pretty shitty. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34052794) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 10:36 PM Author: Magical digit ratio yeah man the cold calls wear on you real fast. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34049412) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 10:36 PM Author: Buck-toothed Wagecucks Incel did you do sales?
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 10:44 PM Author: Magical digit ratio gave it a brief shot. was really good at it. but the office environment was toxic and i didn't want to be on 10 hours of cold calls a week with constant micromanaging. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34049466) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 10:47 PM Author: Buck-toothed Wagecucks Incel now what do you do (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34049492) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 10:50 PM Author: Magical digit ratio work over 50 hours per week at irregular times and want to killself. ljl. but at a job that's pretty much the opposite of sales, in that it's all research/analysis type stuff. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34049527) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 10:50 PM Author: Buck-toothed Wagecucks Incel that sounds like a dream (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34049540) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 10:52 PM Author: Magical digit ratio it's not. it's a shitton of work. horrible hours. brutal deadlines and turnaround times. rampant passive aggressiveness by co-workers.
you don't at all get to work at your own pace, put it that way. |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 10:53 PM Author: Buck-toothed Wagecucks Incel pay?
would you rather be doing sales? |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 10:55 PM Author: Magical digit ratio it's better than the sales job i tried previously, i guess, because no constant cold calling. pay is garbage based on the amount of work. roughly 60k. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34049603) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 11:01 PM Author: Buck-toothed Wagecucks Incel life is difficult breh. let's kill ourselves :) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34049656) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 11:04 PM Author: dashing aggressive trailer park 'work over 50 hours'
so you work 50-60 boo hoo |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 11:15 PM Author: Magical digit ratio working b/w 50-60 hrs per week -- which is ALL work btw, no bullshitting, no breaks, all torture -- for 60k, just to pay back $800/m in students loans, and shell out more than $200/m in shitty health insurance with a $5k deductible, to subsidize free healthcare for the able-bodied who refuse to work, yeah, it sucks and i'm going to bitch about it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34049799) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 11:21 PM Author: glittery elite dysfunction water buffalo dude you could be on welfare doing hard drugs and watching cartoons all day depending on something as capricious and unfeeling as the government for money have some perspective (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34049863) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2017 12:46 PM Author: Brilliant idiot locale (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34052436) |
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Date: October 16th, 2017 4:35 PM Author: glittery elite dysfunction water buffalo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34456848) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2017 11:58 AM Author: Cowardly double fault "Subsidize free health-care for the able-bodied who refuse to work"
Link to all these "Able-bodied" Adults who just REFUSE to work so they can get free Healthcare?
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Date: August 23rd, 2017 9:48 PM Author: Magical digit ratio lol, i can think of a ton just off the top of my head. 90% of the street a friend of mine lives on, for starters. they all smoke and deal weed, and play basketball.
a bunch of other proles i know who are living in family members' houses and spend the day just sleeping and watching tv.
you're insane if you don't think there's an epidemic of people abusing the system. they're the smart ones, though. why work for peanuts just to spend the little you make paying for benefits for others? be the person getting the benefits. |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 10:38 PM Author: charismatic location combine the fields and do recruiting for a TTT law school, like John Marshall.
you could cold call college seniors around the country. Ask Doobs for a list of contacts |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 10:39 PM Author: Buck-toothed Wagecucks Incel no, I'm never cold calling agian. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34049434) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 10:39 PM Author: thriller address You gotta fill that funnel, hoss. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34049432) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 10:39 PM Author: Buck-toothed Wagecucks Incel I want to vomit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34049437) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 10:41 PM Author: Spectacular church building I've done sales and law. Sales was way worse. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34049449) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 10:42 PM Author: Buck-toothed Wagecucks Incel yup
were you cold calling? |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 10:49 PM Author: Spectacular church building Yep. Made me want to kill self (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34049518) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 10:51 PM Author: Buck-toothed Wagecucks Incel what do you do now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34049544) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 10:52 PM Author: Spectacular church building Biglaw partner. Made partner last year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34049564) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 10:53 PM Author: Buck-toothed Wagecucks Incel lol, fuck man. that stings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34049576) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 11:06 PM Author: Spectacular church building Counterpoint: I'm old (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34049720) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 11:07 PM Author: Buck-toothed Wagecucks Incel 40s? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34049733) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 11:10 PM Author: Spectacular church building Drop the s (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34049760) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 11:12 PM Author: Buck-toothed Wagecucks Incel ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34049772) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 10:51 PM Author: mahogany home french chef why not work in luxury retail or sell automobiles if you're doing sales? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34049548) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 10:51 PM Author: Buck-toothed Wagecucks Incel <><><>MONSTERFACE<><><> (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34049551) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 10:56 PM Author: Floppy faggot firefighter jewess Cold calling is pretty whatever. But pushing a deal through with a shitty product and duping another human sucks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34049608) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 10:56 PM Author: vigorous violent skinny woman how many yrs out of college? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34049611) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 10:58 PM Author: Floppy faggot firefighter jewess You take so much shit and make $45k the first year, but if you can survive, you can make a decent amount of money by bouncing around every two years or so. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34049631) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 11:00 PM Author: glittery elite dysfunction water buffalo cr this is what i do (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34049646) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 11:08 PM Author: vigorous violent skinny woman maybe but you have to be ok with the life of being a salesman, and have the non-aspie character that it takes to stand out/enjoy it and be one of the handful of people that make it out of stage one
it's basically banking with a lot less money and no really good exit opps. which is to say banking without the benefits of banking. |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 11:13 PM Author: glittery elite dysfunction water buffalo you end up getting laid 40-50x more than a banker does (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34049782) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 11:16 PM Author: vigorous violent skinny woman lolno that's b/c that person would be a chad, which is why he'd do well in sales too
if not chad, ><><><><><NOSALES><><><><>< and ><><><><><NOSEX><><><><>< |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 11:20 PM Author: glittery elite dysfunction water buffalo also you're constantly travelling (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34049851) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 11:01 PM Author: Buck-toothed Wagecucks Incel 5ish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34049667) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 11:26 PM Author: emerald stead deer antler (32 year old) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34049895) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 11:06 PM Author: Cracking Fuchsia Hominid Whorehouse If you're an all-star you can pull 250k in sales though. It's meant for top tier talent. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34049717) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2017 11:08 PM Author: Buck-toothed Wagecucks Incel let me stop you right there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34049737) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2017 11:50 AM Author: chest-beating disturbing chapel place of business The worst part of sales is the boom or just nature of the business. You live quarter to quarter. You can literally go from a superstar one quarter to begging for your job the next. It never stops, you're always back to square one, always needing to proving yourself.
At the end of the day 90% of people hate their jobs. Sales sucks, law sucks, banking sucks, all of it sucks unless you're one of those people who actually enjoys it. |
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Date: August 23rd, 2017 12:04 PM Author: emerald stead deer antler I've seen this. Guy I was going to work for in sales went from making $700k a year and being a top performer to leaving within 1 year (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34052188) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2017 2:17 PM Author: Multi-colored crusty field he's better off than people with 80k jobs with benefits (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34052995) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2017 12:45 PM Author: Stirring Prole i run a website that gives me warm leads for a relatively expensive consumer service ($5k-$10k). i can close like a third of leads, but calling has become so routine and boring now (2 years in) that i just ignore like 90% of incoming leads.
where is a good place to recruit someone to replace me? i have scripts written out, but the salesperson needs to have a fairly high verbal IQ to improvise smart-sounding answers to unexpected questions |
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Date: August 23rd, 2017 1:43 PM Author: Buck-toothed Wagecucks Incel If the leads are warm I'll work for you. What do you pay (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34052766) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2017 3:15 PM Author: Buck-toothed Wagecucks Incel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34053363) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2017 3:22 PM Author: Stirring Prole 15-20% on each service package - right now i have one of my friends answering calls at his 9-5 corporate counsel job, not flame. the service is high end and the clients are rich people. the leads are nice, i'm just bored of taking calls about it
ethereum.trillionaire@gmail.com if you're interested |
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Date: August 23rd, 2017 12:46 PM Author: Wine Coiffed State Mood Most private law practice IS sales, breh. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34052430) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2017 12:47 PM Author: glittery elite dysfunction water buffalo Salesbros get laid more (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34052443) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2017 1:21 PM Author: mauve shaky macaca brunch Can someone explain what's so bad about cold-calling? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34052639) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2017 1:22 PM Author: Marvelous property do you like telemarketers? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34052642) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2017 1:40 PM Author: mauve shaky macaca brunch I don't pick up the phone when they call.
Isn't there a different between telemarketing and sales? Like calling businesses that might need the thing being sold rather than calling random proles? |
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Date: August 23rd, 2017 1:50 PM Author: Buck-toothed Wagecucks Incel Telemarketing is one part of sales. Many salespeople never do telemarketing anymore, it's all inbound and automated from marketing.
I'm the only "telemarketer" at my company (i.e., cold-caller) and still it's only about 10% of my day. The rest is running reports, doing research, preparing for calls, and the biggest chunk - doing demos.
You really have no idea what its like if you're asking. I could write a lengthy screed right now about it but I'll just keep it short and tell you that law >>>>>> sales |
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Date: August 23rd, 2017 1:44 PM Author: Buck-toothed Wagecucks Incel Are you serious bro? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34052767) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2017 1:54 PM Author: mauve shaky macaca brunch I'm not saying I don't believe that it sucks. Was hoping for a good screed or some first-hand experience that wouldn't be apparent to someone who has never done it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34052814) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2017 2:03 PM Author: Buck-toothed Wagecucks Incel OK, I'll break it down.
Do you handle rejection well? Because cold calling is constant, unrelenting rejection. Sometimes personal and unusually cruel rejection. I called an idiot by a random prospect yesterday before he told me to stop bothering him.
That's just the beginning. Even if you're dealing with nice people, there's still a 95% failure rate on your cold calls. I always lol @ lawyers who complain that their brief "will never get read" or that a partner will mark it up. Big whoop. In cold calling sales, 95% of your effort will be for nothing. And in the middle of all this rejection, you somehow must keep a brave face and sharp mind and field any question that someone who MAY be intersted will ask you.
You've gotta be ready for anything at all times. And if your product is nothing special or you're competing in a crowded market, you have to know every single competitor's product inside and out, anticipate their responses to the holes you poke in the prospect's objections to your pitch.
Just getting them interested is like 10% of the battle. If they don't tell you no right away, you could still be months away from a an actual sale. Especially in my industry.
Add constant stress of people not signing. Having a bad month? Couldn't get the prospect to sign? You'll be losing sleep. Also, working with other salespeople is tough. They tend to be aggressive and unreleting as well. |
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Date: August 23rd, 2017 2:16 PM Author: mauve shaky macaca brunch Sounds brutal man.
Appreciate you taking the time to write that out. Hope things work out for you in sales or elsewhere. |
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Date: August 23rd, 2017 1:53 PM Author: olive tanning salon I did sales for a while in my early to mid 20s and i HATED it
Would rather starve than do a sales job again |
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Date: August 23rd, 2017 5:17 PM Author: Buck-toothed Wagecucks Incel Just ran a report. Since January I've contacted 1,100 unique companies and 1,400!unique contacts (all that I found a researched on my own). In total- 3000+ phone calls and about the same emails. Result? 5 contracts with a monthly recurring revenue of $1400. Hehe. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34054127) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2017 5:52 PM Author: narrow-minded vivacious school legend yeesh. that sounds brutal, brother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34054353) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2017 9:27 PM Author: stimulating maroon depressive temple Jfc man
I sure hoap tezos helps u maek it |
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Date: August 24th, 2017 9:19 AM Author: Buck-toothed Wagecucks Incel Fuck, have to do this shit again (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34058252) |
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Date: August 24th, 2017 9:20 AM Author: olive tanning salon *hug*
I hope you have an ok day, friend <3 |
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Date: August 24th, 2017 9:37 AM Author: purple crotch step-uncle's house 12 week year where you compress the year's goals into each quarter! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3709150&forum_id=2#34058348) |