then, you apply to CC with some type of hard STEM. you murder it. get As. transfer to a good school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191706)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191715)

good luck keeping up after 2 years of shit training at CC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191845)

how much hard STEM stuff does your CC offer?

I looked at the hard STEM offerings at CCs a while back (not CA, where I guess the CC system is more developed)

and the options in terms of credits you could transfer into an engineering program or CS program at the big state school were pretty shitty

you could probably knock out all the gen ed requirement, but actually getting classes that would count towards a STEM major past the intro classes weren't that good

to get an engineering degree or a CS degree, you were probably still looking at 3 more years

(this was 10 or so years ago, so maybe they've really improved the offerings since then, idk)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192029)

http://financialaid.berkeley.edu/cost-attendance

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191885)

HOLY SHIT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191894)

but yeah, Beckersted's analysis looking better and better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191957)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34191961)

i'm going to revise and put it this way.

anyone who would apply to chicago and berkeley should choose uc if they get in. you've already indicated that you are more concerned about being a brainiac than having a typical, fun college experience. therefore, choose the brainiac school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34197991)

I would never pick a school w/o a good engineering program. There is pretty much no reason to go to school otherwise.

Most majors are unemployable..just do CS or EECS and get paid 120k starting at 22 easily

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34198015)

there's a middle ground between grew up in a trailer park, so the Ivy's will just comp tuition

and parents are millionaires who are totally price insensitive

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the vast majority of students who will qualify for any of these schools have parents who are right in the zone to soaked of a substantial percentage of their net worth

think, parents combined make $150K or so

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192234)

If the choice is between < 10,000/y and > 60,000/y, obviously Berkeley.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192215)

they're academically equal

I guess Chicago is more exclusive (far fewer spots) does that matter?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192240)

lol @ anyone choosing to go to chicago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192259)

Even then, you're better off attending a private institution, because presumably there will be more resources in terms of academic and career advising, and more research opportunities, because you're not competing with Chang, Pradeep, and Ahmed *100 for Prof. Shlomoshekelbergstein's attention.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192312)

Exclusivity does matter, for the same reason that you'd rather go to CLS than GULC, work at BCG than PWC.

It's a signal of socioeconomic class, intelligence, and work ethic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3729239&forum_id=2#34192283)