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$70/hour for death penalty cases [NYT]

Alabama’s method of handling indigent defense has long been ...
diverse puppy gunner
  09/20/17
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Silver heaven
  09/20/17
where do we apply
Galvanic mexican
  09/20/17
Alabama got rid of the Last Meal b/c it was too nice The st...
soul-stirring lemon ceo
  09/20/17
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brass seedy depressive church
  09/20/17
half the pay rate? isn't that like $150k
lake passionate indirect expression school cafeteria
  09/20/17
140k for 2000 billable hours not included cut bills overhead...
Crusty Office
  09/20/17
$70/hour at the most stressful trial work? Not even insuranc...
Sinister aphrodisiac spot
  09/20/17
And you spend your life dealing with scumbags and visiting p...
violent insane shrine
  09/20/17
not even remotely close if you are talking about a 40 hour w...
Sapphire hospital deer antler
  09/20/17
$70 per hour in alabama should be easily $200 per hour in NY...
Aromatic Toaster
  09/20/17
$60 per hour is the panel rate in NY. LJL. And you cant get ...
adventurous tan mediation pisswyrm
  09/20/17
LOL so $145,000 in alabama is too TTT to get guilty nigs a d...
fragrant native
  09/20/17
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Silver heaven
  09/20/17
Yeah, and of course the appellate attorney will call anythin...
Garnet buck-toothed site coffee pot
  09/20/17
I wouldn't get out of bed for $70/hour
violent insane shrine
  09/20/17
It'd be a raise for me
Crusty Office
  09/20/17
i never get out of bed
Galvanic mexican
  09/20/17
yeah, you would.
hairraiser parlor
  09/20/17
real dollars, not abbo bux
spruce wild partner
  09/20/17
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Silver heaven
  09/20/17
Looks like they left three or four zeroes off civil appeals
violent insane shrine
  09/20/17
lol at flat fees. how to get mega fucked in 2 easy steps. ...
Sapphire hospital deer antler
  09/20/17
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Plum institution
  09/20/17
Lmao. Just do try a first degree felony for $1,875
Sinister aphrodisiac spot
  09/20/17
bobby, i reviewed the evidence against you yesterday between...
Sapphire hospital deer antler
  09/20/17
...
Garnet buck-toothed site coffee pot
  09/20/17
yup
startled preventive strike
  09/20/17
you guys know that Alabama isn't a real democratic form of g...
startled preventive strike
  09/20/17
Libtard paradises like NY generally pay even less because la...
adventurous tan mediation pisswyrm
  09/20/17


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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:14 AM
Author: diverse puppy gunner

Alabama’s method of handling indigent defense has long been criticized as deeply flawed, particularly in death penalty cases. It underwent some changes in 2011, but judges still handpick defense lawyers, and they are paid only $70 an hour — less than half the federal pay rate for capital defenders and far too low to attract experienced death penalty lawyers, said Lisa Borden, who oversees pro bono programs at the Baker Donelson law firm in Birmingham. In 2011, former judges on the state’s highest courts told the United States Supreme Court that capital defendants in Alabama faced “a lack of qualified counsel at all stages.”

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/19/us/alabama-kharon-davis-speedy.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248557)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:48 AM
Author: Silver heaven



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:16 AM
Author: Galvanic mexican

where do we apply

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248563)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:16 AM
Author: soul-stirring lemon ceo

Alabama got rid of the Last Meal b/c it was too nice

The state goes hard, probably thinks 70 dollars way too much

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248565)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:45 AM
Author: brass seedy depressive church



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:17 AM
Author: lake passionate indirect expression school cafeteria

half the pay rate? isn't that like $150k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248567)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:20 AM
Author: Crusty Office

140k for 2000 billable hours not included cut bills overhead expenses office and taxes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248576)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:49 AM
Author: Sinister aphrodisiac spot

$70/hour at the most stressful trial work? Not even insurance defense lawyers would work for that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248721)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:51 AM
Author: violent insane shrine

And you spend your life dealing with scumbags and visiting prisons.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248728)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 2:16 AM
Author: Sapphire hospital deer antler

not even remotely close if you are talking about a 40 hour work week. your bills are screened. if you think you can bill for 100% of your time, you're either

a. an idiot; or

b. in biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248820)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:27 AM
Author: Aromatic Toaster

$70 per hour in alabama should be easily $200 per hour in NYC. so how much does NY pay its death penalty attorneys?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248612)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 10:17 AM
Author: adventurous tan mediation pisswyrm

$60 per hour is the panel rate in NY. LJL. And you cant get this work. Lawyers line up around the block to do it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34249859)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:38 AM
Author: fragrant native

LOL so $145,000 in alabama is too TTT to get guilty nigs a decent defense?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248664)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:41 AM
Author: Silver heaven



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Date: September 20th, 2017 10:02 AM
Author: Garnet buck-toothed site coffee pot

Yeah, and of course the appellate attorney will call anything the trial attorney did malpractice.

Did your client testify? Well, that was malpractice because it allowed the state to bring in your client's 15 prior felonies.

Did your client not testify? Well, that was malpractice because you never let the jury hear their side of the story.

Don't really blame appellate counsel for throwing hail mary's, but it makes the jurisprudence lulzy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34249737)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:48 AM
Author: violent insane shrine

I wouldn't get out of bed for $70/hour

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248714)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:49 AM
Author: Crusty Office

It'd be a raise for me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248719)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:50 AM
Author: Galvanic mexican

i never get out of bed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248724)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:57 AM
Author: hairraiser parlor

yeah, you would.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248751)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 2:45 AM
Author: spruce wild partner

real dollars, not abbo bux

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248870)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:58 AM
Author: Silver heaven



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248754)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 2:00 AM
Author: violent insane shrine

Looks like they left three or four zeroes off civil appeals

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248765)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 2:15 AM
Author: Sapphire hospital deer antler

lol at flat fees.

how to get mega fucked in 2 easy steps.

step 1-consider flat fee

step 2-accept flat fee

related, those fees are really fucking shitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248817)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 2:19 AM
Author: Plum institution



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Date: September 20th, 2017 2:22 AM
Author: Sinister aphrodisiac spot

Lmao. Just do try a first degree felony for $1,875

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248832)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 2:27 AM
Author: Sapphire hospital deer antler

bobby, i reviewed the evidence against you yesterday between 1:00 and 1:13.

my advice is that you accept the plea offer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248840)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 10:03 AM
Author: Garnet buck-toothed site coffee pot



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Date: September 20th, 2017 10:10 AM
Author: startled preventive strike

yup



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34249800)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 10:11 AM
Author: startled preventive strike

you guys know that Alabama isn't a real democratic form of govt right

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34249806)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 10:20 AM
Author: adventurous tan mediation pisswyrm

Libtard paradises like NY generally pay even less because lawyers will do this shit for free.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34249873)