Beckersted: why do you not believe in Evolution (or not care if its true)?
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Date: September 27th, 2017 5:15 PM Author: Flirting lime love of her life
the other thread is getting unwieldy
This would seem to be an important theory to either accept or reject
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3745857&forum_id=2#34311066) |
Date: September 27th, 2017 5:21 PM Author: infuriating casino
my decision to accept or reject it has no real world implications at all. it's basically a red herring put out there to distabilize christian belief.
generally, i believe in microevolution. macroevolution (across the trees) is nonsense to me.
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Date: September 27th, 2017 5:33 PM Author: infuriating casino
i don't see how any of these questions are related but here you go:
How do you reconcile the FACT that you share 50% of your DNA with a banana?
--we all have similar building blocks? shrug.
Fossils of pre-human ancestors like Homo Erectus?
--and they somehow don't have the shape of dolphin skulls
FACT of the age of the Earth?
--what about it?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3745857&forum_id=2#34311244) |
Date: September 27th, 2017 5:43 PM Author: Magical Dopamine
btw you're not talking to a shithead atheist ITT.
I consider myself a Christian, PCA Presbyterian to be exact
The creation story of Genesis, like much of the Bible, is poetry not history and is meant to be interpreted as such
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Date: September 27th, 2017 6:02 PM Author: infuriating casino
i can understand this, but your reading assumes that christ and paul couldn't read the bible properly. they both talk about noah as a historical figure. paul talks about adam and eve as historical figures. the early church fathers talk about not only adam as a historical figure, but eve as well.
so, yes, does that fly in the face of evolution? sure. but--speaking for myself--it doesn't effect me at all.
i think it's odd that a sola scriptura camp christian would be so rigid in imposing a singular reading of an obviously plain text.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3745857&forum_id=2#34311512)
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Date: September 27th, 2017 6:00 PM Author: cowardly jet digit ratio spot
guess what. nobody gives a fuck.
this isn't a lawman thread where he comes barging in looking for libs to argue with.
dude was asked for clarification on his opinion and gave it thoughtfully. probe him if you want but don't be a shithead faggot. don't assume he's interested in playing the other side of the insufferable battles you like to pick. makes you look 1000x times more boneheaded regardless of his thoughts on evolution tbh.
and for full disclosure i don't disagree with everything you say but you seem extremely dense.
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Date: September 27th, 2017 6:02 PM Author: arousing market
the nice thing is that I can think beckersted is batshit insane on this issue like my papist mother in law - but that doesn't matter because someone's feelings on evolution and religion are mostly meaningless to others.
As long we we believe in crushing the lib menace and making them cry tears of unfathomable sorrow, we are on the same team.
Contrast this with anyone trying to form a coalition on the left because he (understandably) thinks Trump is not a good president, but he also believes abortion is murder. BURN THE HERETIC!
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Date: September 27th, 2017 6:19 PM Author: Iridescent Den
brother, itt you're being no better than the atheist crowd
the problem with the atheist crowd isn't that they're athiest, when it comes down to it atheism isn't difficult to argue for and it's a fine position to hold intellectually. their problem is that they are incredibly obtuse and inflexible, unwilling to open themselves to any other ideas, and ultimately just as proselytizing as the mainstream religious crowd (probably moreso) while relying on i fucking love science-level intellectual standards and rhetoric.
you're performing the same shit here for a different side of the debate. 80% of what you said itt could have come straight from r/atheism, not only in content but style, which is their real problem.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3745857&forum_id=2#34311662) |
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Date: September 27th, 2017 6:22 PM Author: Magical Dopamine
See, I think my position answers this question perfectly:
the same natural processes that govern biological evolution also govern the evolution of stars, planets, etc. Even if we are literally the only intelligent life in the universe, the entire thing had to be made this way in order for us to exist. Earth could not have been made without the numerous collisions of space debris, which could not have been made without the birth and death of countless stars, which could not have been made without the clouds of gas, which could not have been made without elementary particles, which could not have been made without the fundamental physical laws, etc.
In other words, God set it all up that way to evolve over billions of years to end up exactly the way it did: with a small mammalian species suddenly recognizing its own reflection in the water.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3745857&forum_id=2#34311691) |
Date: September 27th, 2017 6:40 PM Author: infuriating casino
i ask this honestly:
how has evolution charged your/our lives? what major technological or medical breakthrough has it created that effects us on a day to day basis? maybe i can be convinced of it.
EDIT: what technology RELIES on evolution happening as believed?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3745857&forum_id=2#34311818) |
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Date: September 27th, 2017 6:47 PM Author: infuriating casino
but functional utility IS science, no? is evolutionary theory needed for any science at all? if one took out evolutionary theory from, say, medicine. does medicine fail? etc.
science is supposed to be reproduceable.
btw, i hear what your saying. i dig it. respect it. and understand it. but...if evolution has no functional utility...is it science? i'm asking because i legit don't know.
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Date: September 27th, 2017 7:14 PM Author: Pearl stag film
I guess it depends what you mean by breakthrough. Lots of pathogens evolve along with their hosts, and so understanding that is important from a public health angle.
Example: Schistosomes have obligate snail intermediate hosts and coevolve with them. Certain schistosomes can only infect certain species of snail. So when human activity changes the fish species that prey on the snail, that has disease implications.
Viruses develop drug resistances in predictable ways that inform treatment options.
And cancer biology is just evolution run amok.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3745857&forum_id=2#34312044) |
Date: September 27th, 2017 7:06 PM Author: aggressive depressive
whether or not evolution is a burning issue in modern society doesn't matter for your perspective
if you are willing to reject observed facts or well-tested hypotheses just because "it dont make good sense to me" this is a hallmark of stupidity, irrationality, poor education, etc and people are right to judge you as such
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3745857&forum_id=2#34311974) |
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