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LAWYERS ONLY THREAD: MGM is perma-fucked right?
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:15 PM Author: Magenta center Beyond CE, they have hundreds of security and cameras, but didn't notice? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352298) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:17 PM Author: balding appetizing market degenerate bet you could argue a different standard applies to the concert goers than hotel guests. ticket probably had some assumption of risk waiver attached too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352318) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 11:33 AM Author: Marvelous amber location mood There are many potential defenses here, for everyone, but LJL at a fucking liability waiver on a ticket being the outcome-determinative thing here. There are state-court judges who would literally sooner hold court wearing a multi-colored wig and rubber clown nose than write a dismissal order like that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34355563) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:18 PM Author: big-titted cuckoldry party of the first part U gonna file a suit? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352330) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:19 PM Author: Magenta center Don't have a client yet :-( (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352342) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 9:52 AM Author: topaz indecent brunch crotch I have a line on one but I'm not in your state. If I can sign one up you want to associate? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354848) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 10:12 AM Author: Magenta center Yeah that'd be great brother. Woman from my town was killed, but I don't know the family. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354985) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 10:13 AM Author: topaz indecent brunch crotch Current client is related. He's (current client) a train wreck though so we'll see. I'm talking to him today about a litigation loan lol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354991) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:18 PM Author: Odious Cyan School notice what, a big duffel bag? none of those hotels have metal detectors or scanners for bags. and are guests prohibited from having guns in their hotel rooms across vegas hotels? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352333) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:19 PM Author: big-titted cuckoldry party of the first part is the STANDARD OF CARE only determined by ILLEGALITY???? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352338) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:20 PM Author: Odious Cyan School there's never been a terror attack like this in modern times. no hotel in the country has security measures in place that would have prevented this. they havn't breached any standard of care. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352344) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:23 PM Author: big-titted cuckoldry party of the first part (chandler) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352376) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 12:21 AM Author: Umber Laser Beams (Guy ignoring lawyers only rule) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34353581) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:20 PM Author: Magenta center Non lolyers GTFO. Your questions are stupid. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352347) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:07 PM Author: lime whorehouse there is literally no way you are a lawyer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352849) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:10 PM Author: big-titted cuckoldry party of the first part EPAH is literally the most successful lawyer on this board (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352875) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 8:42 AM Author: Turquoise stag film (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354613) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:22 PM Author: Narrow-minded Thriller Kitchen Defense bro here, what's your theory?
What if the video shows him with two suitcases of shit that doesn't stick out at all? |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:24 PM Author: Magenta center Negligence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352395) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:26 PM Author: big-titted cuckoldry party of the first part 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352415) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:28 PM Author: Magenta center ? Watch and learn. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352446) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:29 PM Author: big-titted cuckoldry party of the first part Big fan here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352451) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:30 PM Author: Magenta center Just joking around friend. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352468) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:31 PM Author: Odious Cyan School nevada has limitations on joint & several liability i think (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352482) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:34 PM Author: Self-centered Ticket Booth The victims we're negligent in what way?
Dude, if you are a lawyer, you are really seriously an idiot. |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:34 PM Author: beady-eyed temple fat ankles I know a Vegas lawyer that only brings intentional tort claims so he can exclude all the contributory fault evidence. That said, if this got past summary judgment, MGM would fold. They don’t need this re-enacted in newspapers for the next 5 years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352528) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:00 PM Author: Magenta center Edit + delete all but last sentence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352781) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:36 PM Author: histrionic church building legend dude, just stop. this is embarrassing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352542) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:38 PM Author: Self-centered Ticket Booth He just edited his post. Lmao. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352566) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:41 PM Author: histrionic church building legend lmao!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352595) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:43 PM Author: mildly autistic church knife jesus fucking christ lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352619) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:43 PM Author: beady-eyed temple fat ankles To be fair, I kinda forget tort law because I don’t do much of it, and I knew what the guy was talking about. The Nevada case I was referring to is this one: https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/courts/health-plan-of-nevada-must-pay-500-million-in-hepatitis-c-case/
The plaintiff’s attorney’s didn’t want evidence that some fucking doctor was reusing the solution to save money, so he brought only intentonal tort claims against the pharma company and got all the evidence that the doctor was engaging in criminal acts excluded. |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:44 PM Author: Odious Cyan School thanks for defending me here. I may have embarrassed myself, it's been many years since LS and I don't practice litigation. i'll let the seasoned pros have at it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352633) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:46 PM Author: beady-eyed temple fat ankles ? Dude I’m like the only guy in this thread sticking up for you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352644) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:47 PM Author: Odious Cyan School Thanks, I appreciate that. I was responding more to everyone else and was not meaning to be critical of your response here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352656) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:21 PM Author: Glittery Parlor Don't let the haters get to you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352982) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:40 PM Author: Self-centered Ticket Booth Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:31 PM Author: Consuela
nevada has comparative fault for negligence |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 9:22 AM Author: splenetic theatre private investor LMAO (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354717) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:41 PM Author: histrionic church building legend Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:31 PM Author: Consuela
nevada has comparative fault for negligence
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352482) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 4:59 AM Author: tripping infuriating university haunted graveyard Wtf? This doesn't make sense either. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354240) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 12:13 AM Author: Bateful Locus Boiling Water What did you get in torts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34353512) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 12:15 AM Author: Magenta center 3.6 iirc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34353533) |
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Date: October 4th, 2017 8:51 PM Author: tripping infuriating university haunted graveyard Did you spot the robot issue? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34369167) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:59 PM Author: lime whorehouse why would the fact that they had security cameras matter? they have to be more vigilant because they have cameras and security? if that were the case it would just discourage companies from having security at all.
Now, if the guy was waiving around his guns in the lobby then you'd have a theory of negligence, but it doesn't sound like that was the case at all.
I don't see how they have liability.
It's a tragedy and it sucks but it wasn't MGM's fault at all.
Thankfully there have been a lot of blood donations, and monetary donations, so hopefully the victims and their families can be well taken care of. |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:01 PM Author: Magenta center (Bootlicker pumo as always) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352786) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:06 PM Author: lime whorehouse (mentally ill + not well versed in the law) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352843) |
Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:18 PM Author: big-titted cuckoldry party of the first part I'm gonna buy MGM tomorrow I think. Seems like an overreaction (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352325) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:20 PM Author: Self-centered Ticket Booth They shouldn't be, but these huge cases settle for ridiculous amounts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352352) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:21 PM Author: Odious Cyan School does nevada have a 1% deep pockets rule/J&S liability like CA does? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352359) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:22 PM Author: Self-centered Ticket Booth What the hell is that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352369) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:24 PM Author: Odious Cyan School Under California law, you can end up paying all the damages in a liability judgment even if you're only 1 percent at fault.
https://www.bizjournals.com/sacramento/stories/1997/09/22/editorial4.html |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:25 PM Author: histrionic church building legend do you even law bro? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352400) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:26 PM Author: Odious Cyan School not a litigator. explain what in that link is wrong (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352412) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:27 PM Author: histrionic church building legend yeah, you're very obviously not a lawyer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352427) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:26 PM Author: Self-centered Ticket Booth So it is like every other state? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352410) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:26 PM Author: Magenta center This is called "joint and several liability" not "the 1% rule". Kindly gtfo and don't waste our time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352419) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:27 PM Author: histrionic church building legend yeah, that. do they have that in the vegas jurisdiction?
(conseula) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:29 PM Author: Magenta center I assume MGM will raise 2A as defense. This will be hard to overcome.
(Consuela) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:30 PM Author: histrionic church building legend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352477) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:31 PM Author: Self-centered Ticket Booth Lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352491) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 9:23 AM Author: splenetic theatre private investor lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354727) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:29 PM Author: Odious Cyan School many states have limitations on it, and a couple states don't have joint and several liability at all. fine, ill look up nevada's (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352455) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:29 PM Author: histrionic church building legend lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352461) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:23 PM Author: Magenta center Pls elaborate. Can't wait to hear ur insights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352378) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:24 PM Author: Odious Cyan School see above (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352394) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:03 PM Author: Magenta center Consuelatp: don't edit like a faggot after getting PWNed. I've been pwned here 100 times and it's fine. It's part of the charm here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352815) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 12:37 AM Author: out-of-control pale people who are hurt gunner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34353655) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 5:13 AM Author: startled prole cuckold (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354249) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 8:45 AM Author: Glassy Vengeful Bawdyhouse Genital Piercing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354622) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:23 PM Author: talented alcoholic ape resort part and parcel -> assumption of risk -> no liability (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352377) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:24 PM Author: Magenta center Non lawyers gtfo, ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352383) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:39 PM Author: talented alcoholic ape resort do we get a piece of the pie for doing the legwork for you?
but as i think stated above, the fact that the people were not guests of the hotel could make for some interesting wrinkles. if the shooter had decided to shoot from the street, would anybody have liability? how does it change things once he does it from the hotel? i guess you could try and make the argument that a room up on the 32nd floor provided a better vantage point and concealment.
it might also be worth noting that he checked in on sept. 28th. should the hotel be on alert days before an event in order to fulfill their duty? |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:35 PM Author: Azure lay volcanic crater (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34353143) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 12:11 AM Author: arousing snowy striped hyena They weren't guests of the hotel, but the festival was on MGM-owned property (it's called the MGM Village or something like that) and hosted by MGM. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34353495) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 11:17 AM Author: talented alcoholic ape resort important piece of the puzzle. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34355443) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:28 PM Author: stubborn pontificating home internal respiration This is a law bort. We're all lawyers here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352445) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:30 PM Author: mind-boggling chestnut karate nursing home I am not a lawyer and have never practiced laws a day in my life, but LOL at Nevada if they don't have a statute saying casinos always win. LJL at not protecting your most important industry. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352464) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:31 PM Author: Magenta center Cr non-lolyer insight. Duty is probably limited to guests by statute or caselaw. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352486) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:33 PM Author: Self-centered Ticket Booth There is going to be a duty. There probably wasn't any negligence and maybe no proximate cause due to a supervisor cause. Supervening cause seems like the summary judgment argument to me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352515) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:44 PM Author: Magenta center You get an F- on this issue spotter. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352626) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:48 PM Author: talented alcoholic ape resort do me! do me! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352665) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:56 PM Author: Magenta center Already told you to gtfo with ur ignorance. D+ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352733) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:51 PM Author: Self-centered Ticket Booth Ok you might be right that there may be no duty. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352687) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:55 PM Author: Self-centered Ticket Booth Ok epeh is definitely right. No duty to control 3rd parties. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352727) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:14 PM Author: lime whorehouse how many monikers do you have here? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352914) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:42 PM Author: talented alcoholic ape resort yeah. and let's be honest, hotels going thru their guests' luggage - IN VEGAS - would be horrible for business. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352611) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 9:46 AM Author: Fluffy Becky lol every bag check would be like the Meet The Parents scene where DeNiro picks the lock on what he thinks is Stiller's luggage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354833) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:43 PM Author: Narrow-minded Thriller Kitchen I could have forwarded some victims to you but you wouldn't give me a job when I solicited for one (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352614) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:58 PM Author: Magenta center Sorry breh. ITE, you need a "business case." Ask earltp. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352755) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:01 PM Author: Narrow-minded Thriller Kitchen Idk what that means brother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352787) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:04 PM Author: Magenta center To get a jerb/breakfast you have to present a "business case" for your promotion. Not just that you want to PWN souls and make money.
Bring me two LV clients and you'll have a business case. |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:44 PM Author: tripping infuriating university haunted graveyard no (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352632) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 10:59 PM Author: Magenta center Lawyers ONLY. JFC (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352760) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:08 PM Author: lime whorehouse why? you are clearly not one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352855) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 10:35 AM Author: Red Charismatic Cruise Ship Stock Car Not even a big epah fan here but (retard) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34355112) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 5:10 AM Author: tripping infuriating university haunted graveyard What? I am a lawyer. Let's say every death results in a claim settled for $3 million, that's $180 million. Every injury averages $200k, that's $120 million. Those are pretty generous settlement values and you're still only talking $400 million. Triple them and it's only $1.2 billion. MGM is one of the largest casino and resort operators on the planet. Mandalay Bay alone is worth a billion. Oh, and by the way, this is likely covered under their CGL so insurance will be paying.
So to answer the OP's question, no they are not permafucked due to litigation. They will lose more money if tourism drops 5 percent than they will spend or lose on these cases. |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 5:15 AM Author: startled prole cuckold (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354252) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 9:25 AM Author: Magenta center Sorry I meant permafucked as in having to pay million$, not as in going bankrupt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354740) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 11:38 AM Author: hyperactive yapping chapel Lol bro. You got caught. Permafucked clearly implies long term permanent. Not just paying a bunch of money out but affecting the long term health of the business (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34355618) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 12:54 PM Author: Magenta center Fuck! ANY MOD IF YOU ARE READING THIS PLS EDIT THREAD TITLE. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34356277) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:00 PM Author: Mahogany Arrogant Step-uncle's House Don't think I've seen one post in this thread explaining how they breached any duty they may have had to the concert guests. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352782) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:02 PM Author: Self-centered Ticket Booth Because epeh will bring in some Jewish expert to testify about how proper hotel procedures could have averted this tragedy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352807) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:10 PM Author: lime whorehouse you can sue people even if they had no duty to you, for instance if you were grossly negligent and actually provided someone an opportunity to harm you. there is NO indication that was the case here. Also, OP is literally an idiot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352872) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:34 PM Author: Mahogany Arrogant Step-uncle's House My larger point was that nothing has been argued about their negligence.
Doesn't seem like anything shows they were negligent. You'd have to use some type of res ipsa or whatever which obviously wouldn't work |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 12:19 AM Author: Magenta center Just for that I'm adding a 10/2/18 reminder in Outlook to PWN the fuck out of this pumo by bumping ITT with the settlement. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34353567) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:02 PM Author: hateful orange friendly grandma hospital I'd rather sue the gun manufacturers and concert promoters tbh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352798) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:05 PM Author: Magenta center Jfc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352827) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 9:29 AM Author: Umber Laser Beams TIOCTCJFC (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354753) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 5:11 AM Author: tripping infuriating university haunted graveyard Concert promoters are preparing bankruptcy papers as we speak. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354248) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:06 PM Author: adventurous domesticated indian lodge codepig The only possible somewhat non-frivolous theory I could see would be a suit by one of the last victims to get shot premises on the idea that Mandalay Bay security was negligent in it seaction time to identifying the source of the shooting and/or calling police. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352839) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:08 PM Author: Magenta center Jfc this blog says "prestigious" right in the subtitle. Kindly take this thinking to TLS. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352859) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 6:09 AM Author: adventurous domesticated indian lodge codepig LOL @ your life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354307) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:13 PM Author: self-absorbed insane lodge Should help. confirms maids dont snoop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352905) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:16 PM Author: Magenta center Untillegible post, but still way smarter than anything consuelatp friend posted. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34352931) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2017 11:18 PM Author: Opaque Old Irish Cottage Don't worry they have their best guys working on this one:
https://www.mgmgrand.com/en/entertainment/csi-the-experience.html |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 12:23 AM Author: crusty telephone I feel bad for MGM
THey will prob have to install bulletproof glass on all windows and have heavy security and they will pay out the ass in settlement/go bankrupt doing so
Policy wise - no, they shouldn't be liable
there's prob some duty argument - they had cameras installed, their windows were too easily broken, security didn't notice, etc. Odds are they are going to settle for huge $$$$
If I were them, I'd prepare for chapter 11. This might singlehandedly bankrupt them |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 12:31 AM Author: Umber Laser Beams Question is if they have a disaster policy that will cover it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34353638) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 5:15 AM Author: tripping infuriating university haunted graveyard They're a $17B company. These are injury cases covered by a CGL. How the fuck can litigation cause them to go bankrupt? And you're not even considering their political clout. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354251) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 12:29 AM Author: Umber Laser Beams It would certainly help to get clients who were concert goers and Mandalay Bay guests. Shouldn’t be that hard to find.
The dude has over a dozen guns, assault rifles, scopes, tripods, etc. in his hotel room. maybe he did it in a very calculated, inconspicuous fashion, but I’d sure love to get those videos in front of a jury |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 12:34 AM Author: Grizzly Main People then the class will be ttt cause it'll only have a couple dozen people in it. p's lawyer can still make bank but I don't see this strengthening their duty of care since they don't owe their own guests any more of a duty than others when not at the hotel premises. they either owe a duty to those in the surrounding area or they don't (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34353648) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 12:38 AM Author: Umber Laser Beams not like the class would be all 22,000 concert goers dude (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34353659) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 1:55 AM Author: Grizzly Main People The class would be at least those who died or suffered significant injuries. Could be all concert goers since they will likely have suffered mental distress (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354038) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 9:17 AM Author: Umber Laser Beams This is not good posting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354704) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 10:00 AM Author: Grizzly Main People (Guy who thinks the hotel owes a duty to its guests' persons when they are off the premises) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354897) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 11:38 AM Author: Marvelous amber location mood There's not going to be a fucking class for the wrongful-death cases, tard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34355616) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 12:47 PM Author: Grizzly Main People Yeah there is you no-nothing fool (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34356220) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 5:24 PM Author: Marvelous amber location mood No there's not, idiot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34358491) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 9:17 PM Author: Self-centered Ticket Booth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34360538) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 5:16 AM Author: tripping infuriating university haunted graveyard You don't need to do a class even. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354254) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 9:13 AM Author: soul-stirring forum No way. A class unnecessarily complicates things procedurally and depersonalizes the victim. If anything it will be the defendant who will be pushing to have all these cases consolidated into one (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354695) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 12:42 PM Author: tripping infuriating university haunted graveyard Cr. Damages are also wildly different. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34356168) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 12:48 PM Author: Grizzly Main People That doesn't preclude a class action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34356226) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 11:44 PM Author: Self-centered Ticket Booth There is no way this could ever be certified as a class action. Consolidated in MDL maybe. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34361871) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 12:43 AM Author: Mahogany Arrogant Step-uncle's House What do you imagine the videos might show?
Are they supposed to notice a guy taking a trip every 6 hours for 3 days, in different entrances, carrying normal luggage?
What did they fail to do to prevent this?
Also, their guests at the concert weren't on their premises or using their services - I doubt any kind of extra hotel duty standard would apply.
Literally no one has mentioned anything MGM did wrong. |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 5:18 AM Author: startled prole cuckold (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354257) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 8:33 AM Author: Mahogany Arrogant Step-uncle's House hmm that is a tough question.
On one hand he wasn't paying for the room so their liability may be lowered. On the other, they recruited him to their premises.
I've reached my scholarly limit |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 12:31 AM Author: Grizzly Main People settle for $X00MM > chapter 11 > resume printing money (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34353636) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 1:00 AM Author: Mustard feces I hope the hotel takes a firm stand: Not one penny in settlement. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34353790) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 9:29 AM Author: Magenta center (John Quinn pitching defense) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354752) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 11:39 AM Author: Marvelous amber location mood Yeah you keep hoping for that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34355619) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 5:22 PM Author: Mustard feces Ok. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34358479) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 1:59 AM Author: Costumed razzmatazz pozpig base Guns can be taken apart. You can bring them up in pieces in a suitcase. It may take a bunch of trips. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354052) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 9:32 AM Author: Magenta center The ol' "guns can be taken apart," defense, eh?
*P lawyers stumped* |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 10:00 AM Author: bright theater ... do you gun bro? take down an AR15 in 3 seconds into 18" sections. i take rifles and pistols into hotels all the time "firearms prohibited" my ass. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354895) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 5:21 PM Author: Mustard feces At least one seems to be. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34358475) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 2:04 AM Author: Olive goal in life I'm sure someone will sue, don't see any way MGM pays anything beyond nuisance unless they're doing some type of PR thing (which they will do regardless of lolsuit) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354079) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 2:05 AM Author: Fear-inspiring transparent hissy fit range Perhaps the hotel has a duty to make sure that guests aren't doing crazy dangerous shit in their rooms. like would they have any liability it he were using his room as a meth lab and it exploded?
If he snuck the guns into the room over the course of several days/weeks, maybe MGM had some duty to enter the room at some point? Obviously, any such duty would depend on how long it took him to get the guns in there.
Probably a stretch. |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 2:13 AM Author: Olive goal in life ljl at some judge imposing a duty on nevada hotels to watch and police what people do in their hotel rooms (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354107) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 2:31 AM Author: Fear-inspiring transparent hissy fit range i mean, there's obviously some duty at some point, but it probably doesn't apply in this situation.
like if they saw the dnd sign on the door for a whole month, i bet they'd have some duty to investigate and make sure there's no dead body in there or something.
anyway, i said it's a stretch in my original comment. |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 5:23 AM Author: startled prole cuckold (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354261) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 10:50 AM Author: Fear-inspiring transparent hissy fit range probably also a time element, but i agree the facts here probably wouldn't fit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34355206) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 6:20 AM Author: Swashbuckling menage masturbator The only factor I can legitimately think of is the fact that the guy broke two windows.
Some alarm must have gone off |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 6:32 AM Author: Painfully Honest Concupiscible Double Fault those security measures are only to prevent Oceans 11 type heists (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354328) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 9:36 AM Author: Magenta center "The Goldberg family spend millions on security folks. To do what? *pause* To guard their money! Disgusting! Meanwhile, they let this madman bring thousands of pounds of munitions right through the front door! And 59 beautiful Americans died because of what they did!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354779) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 11:41 AM Author: Marvelous amber location mood ^^take note, tards. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34355630) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 11:45 AM Author: soul-stirring forum (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34355653) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 6:49 AM Author: soul-stirring forum A few broad points on the Nevada legal system in general:
1) until very recently, like two years ago, Nevada did not have a court of appeal. It was just trial courts and the Supreme Court. As a result there is very little jurisprudence on many issues. Nevada courts traditionally defer to California decisions when there's no on point Authority – if that's the case, the casinos are fucked.
2) the casinos aren't fucked. Nevada has an elected judiciary. There isn't a snowballs chance in hell that somebody gets elected to the Nevada Supreme Court without being thoroughly vetted by the casino industry.
3) Nevada allows people like this to become judges https://abovethelaw.com/2009/12/former-judge-halverson-rolls-back-into-the-news/ |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 6:52 AM Author: soul-stirring forum On the other hand I can't wait to hear epah's closing argument in this one. " you can't move a single card a single inch without three cameras following you. But you can bring up 18 guns – 10 boxes of ammunition – explosives – and no one notices? " (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354344) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 9:20 AM Author: Irradiated soggy stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354710) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 9:22 AM Author: Umber Laser Beams CR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354721) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 9:39 AM Author: Magenta center 28 USC 1332 breh. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354789) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 10:28 AM Author: soul-stirring forum fair point. you're still applying Nevada law, and any questions re duty are probably going to get certified to NVSC. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34355079) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 10:22 AM Author: Curious Orchestra Pit Nibblets You're ignoring the fact that many victims will have come from out of state. Diversity jurisdiction. Federal court. Federal judges. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34355047) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 9:24 AM Author: Plum piazza place of business Perma-fucked? lulz, no. Insurance premiums are going up though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354733) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 9:50 AM Author: Ebony principal's office they have insurance policies to cover this type of shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354846) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 9:55 AM Author: Shivering racy sneaky criminal Hard to know without discovery. How could a maid not have noticed 40+ guns and thousands of rounds of ammo in a 2br suite? If it was some Mexican housekeeper and she says she was afraid to report it because the dude was staying in a comped high roller suite, there could be some argument that the casino’s policies would have prevented this but that pressure put on cleaning staff by management contributed to allowing this to happen. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354867) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 9:57 AM Author: topaz indecent brunch crotch I like the security camera argument above. Could easily convince a jury that they spend $millions on making sure they turn a profit at table games but nothing toward making sure something like this doesn't happen. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354871) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 9:58 AM Author: Shivering racy sneaky criminal That’s a retarded argument. Guests at Vegas (or anywhere) want privacy in their rooms. And hotels in Vegas actually station security guards by elevator banks. This guy snuck past them with 40+ guns and thousands of rounds of ammo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354881) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 10:00 AM Author: topaz indecent brunch crotch Agreed. Should associate RSF's dad with his airline security negligence experience (probably not flame). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354898) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 10:25 AM Author: Curious Orchestra Pit Nibblets no he didn't. 23 guns in his room (1 of them a pistol). the other guns (which make the 40+ tally) were at his house. not that it matters, but if you're going to state a fact, at least make sure it's true. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34355058) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 11:40 AM Author: Shivering racy sneaky criminal Sorry I'm not following every detail on this boomer piece of shit. So he only snuck in 22 rifles? Kill yourself loser. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34355624) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 5:24 PM Author: Mustard feces They *do* have security cameras in halls. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34358492) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 9:57 AM Author: Shivering racy sneaky criminal Another thing that could fuck them is if this guy made weird requests for a room that would be facing the concert, though presumably someone might want that so they could innocently look out on it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354874) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 11:54 AM Author: aphrodisiac stead a high level corner room facing the strip?
OH WHAT A WEIRD REQUEST |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 9:59 AM Author: topaz indecent brunch crotch there has to be SOMETHING out there in discovery. IE a security complaint to check out the room or as above a maid asking for a manager to check it out. You can't have a fucking arsenal in a high security vegas hotel; it should be impossible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354890) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 10:10 AM Author: tripping infuriating university haunted graveyard Not flame just overheard a lawyer I know say "we're gonna have the estate, the wife and the two kids." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34354968) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 10:18 AM Author: ruddy comical wrinkle roast beef Possible. Usually not liable for criminal acts though.
The thing that stood out to me what him having like 20 bags and luggage. But that probably isn't extraordinary for Vegas. |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 10:19 AM Author: ruddy comical wrinkle roast beef Also, what duty does the hotel have for people way over across the street and down? They are not hotel guests--it was open for everyone. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34355027) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 10:29 AM Author: silver sanctuary trump supporter Plaintiff's lawyer here: I wouldn't take this case. All sorts of problems.
1. What duty was breached? And to who? Do the maids owe a duty to everyone within a half-mile to search a guest's luggage when someone has like 10 bags? I'm guessing this isn't the only guy in the Mandalay who is comically overpacked, and for all we know, he left a few of those bags in his trunk until the day of.
2. Causation? Most of the time, intentional criminal acts are intervening causes unless the defendant was on notice that criminal activity of the same type was likely. The injuries were caused by an intervening criminal act which Defendant had no notice of.
3. Foreseeability (part of causation, but worth more) - How is the worst mass shooting in US history foreseeable?
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 10:52 AM Author: Self-centered Ticket Booth You seriously wouldn't take this case to write a demand letter and get a third of a million bucks? Defendants retardedly settle all the time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34355221) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 10:58 AM Author: silver sanctuary trump supporter No. Because once you take a client/case, you have the duty of zealous advocacy. Taking cases, writing demand letters, and then failing to follow up is a bad idea.
1. If you get that reputation in your community, nobody is going to take your demand letters seriously. Makes you have to work harder in the long term, because you will always have to file suit to get any serious settlement offer. This is 10x as true when you've got a case getting media coverage.
2. If you regularly dump clients after writing a demand letter, you're asking for a bar grievance.
I realize lots of shitlawlyers do that, but it's still a bad idea. |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 11:17 AM Author: soul-stirring forum a true shitlawyer would take the case, drag things out, and let some other hard chargers litigate it to set the market. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34355441) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 11:16 AM Author: soul-stirring forum are you a non-lawyer? Because non-lawyers seem to have this belief that all an attorney has to do is send a strongly worded letter and the defendant will be so distraught they will immediately cave. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34355433) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 11:22 AM Author: Fear-inspiring transparent hissy fit range Where were you assholes when everyone was calling me an idiot for saying this to Nutella in a thread about someone's wife getting fired from a consulting firm? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34355474) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 11:23 AM Author: soul-stirring forum I saw that thread, it was hilarious. Lots of people chiming in with "wow they fired a woman? they will def settle for six figures right away, all u have to do is ask."
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 11:30 AM Author: Fear-inspiring transparent hissy fit range Yeah, but where the fuck were my defenders then, when Nutella was being mean to me? Plus, everyone hates Nutella. Made me feel very unappreciated, even for a lowly pumo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34355537) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 5:57 PM Author: cracking henna meetinghouse They fired a pregnant woman. The pregnancy is the part that matters, not woman. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34358730) |
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Date: October 4th, 2017 12:22 AM Author: Self-centered Ticket Booth I am a lawyer and a litigator. I have never had an insurance company role over for a million bucks for my benefit, but it happens ALL THE TIME. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34362275) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 10:55 AM Author: Mahogany Arrogant Step-uncle's House CRRRRRR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34355236) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 11:10 AM Author: Translucent address corn cake (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34355386) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 11:13 AM Author: big-titted cuckoldry party of the first part What kind of plaintiff lawyer cares about this shit when the damages are high enough and you have a defendant that is ultra concerned about its reputation? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34355413) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 11:33 AM Author: silver sanctuary trump supporter A plaintiffs lawyer who has mistakenly thought that was the case and ended up wasting a year on a lost cause.
I only take cases I wouldn't mind taking to trial (as much as possible). Getting stuck with a low/no value case is the fucking worst. |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 12:44 PM Author: tripping infuriating university haunted graveyard Damages aren't "high enough". The actual damages in this case are no different than a fatal car crash even if the story is compelling. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34356190) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 11:15 AM Author: topaz indecent brunch crotch (not a solo plaintiff's lawyer) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34355428) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 11:35 AM Author: silver sanctuary trump supporter If I was a solo, I'd sign these people up and refer them to one of my dumber friends for a 25% cut. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34355592) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 5:56 PM Author: cracking henna meetinghouse Ehhh so you wouldn't have taken cantor Fitzgerald's case or any of the other WTC tenants cases against airlines? No duty, no forseeability, intervening criminal act, etc. this is why you ain't rich like RSF dad or EPAH. Sometimes insurance money and bad publicity is all that matters. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34358717) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 10:30 AM Author: titillating cream windowlicker In a rational world the only cognizable claim would be against the police who demand military grade weapons then take 60 minutes to bust down a fucking door (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34355092) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 11:46 AM Author: Marvelous amber location mood CR, but the police are one group that almost certainly cannot get sued. Their even immune (qualifiedly) for intentionally violations of constitutional rights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34355658) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 12:34 PM Author: Ultramarine overrated rehab goyim Even if the shooting isn't foreseeable, there is a foreseeable risk of general public being hit by intentionally defenestrated objects, which MGM probably attempts to mitigate with, e.g., plastic glasses at rooftop bars or windows that don't open. P argues there were other steps MGM could have taken to avoid such foreseeable risk (alarm system, security cam on outside windows, stonger windows), which would have prevented shooting or limited its duration. General duty to public from foreseeable risk of damage from intentionally cast projectiles and matter of fact whether additional protective measures are reasonable and would have prevented damages. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34356103) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2017 12:44 PM Author: soul-stirring forum CR falling bullets just like a falling barrel of flour. Res ipsa (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34356198) |
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Date: October 4th, 2017 12:24 AM Author: Self-centered Ticket Booth Lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34362297) |
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Date: October 4th, 2017 9:05 PM Author: sable buck-toothed idea he suggested dilemma There is an argument they were negligent for not noticing him setting up cameras in the hallway. From that, you can tack on a duty to check out his room.
Still a weak case, but someone will bring it. And its possible to get a big judgment from a jury on those facts. Appeals court will probably toss, but its insurance money so it’ll setlle before then., |
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Date: October 4th, 2017 9:15 PM Author: chartreuse jew A shocked courtroom gasps as EPAH calls his surprise rebuttal witness Steve Wynn to the stand:
Others suggested that more could be done. Last year, Steve Wynn, the chief executive of Wynn Resorts and owner of some of the biggest casinos and hotels in the city, said Las Vegas was a “target city” because of the tens of millions of visitors who cram its streets, tourist attractions and hotels and casinos. In the past year, he said, he has installed unseen metal detectors and hired former Navy SEALs, F.B.I. and C.I.A. agents to work undercover in his Las Vegas properties.
“You know why we are a big target?” Mr. Wynn asked in an interview last year with KTNV, a Nevada television station. “This place is chock-full, in a relatively small place between Sahara and Tropicana, of all of those folks, and they regularly congregate at night in 10- and 20,000 bundles. This city is tempting for all of those reasons.”
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/10/04/us/mandalay-bay-hotel-security.html |
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Date: October 4th, 2017 9:16 PM Author: sable buck-toothed idea he suggested dilemma (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3751509&forum_id=2#34369360) |
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Date: October 5th, 2019 1:06 PM Author: Magenta center Here’s where we are on this: https://ktla.com/2019/10/03/lawyer-for-las-vegas-shooting-victims-to-discuss-extremely-important-developments/
$800M settlement. I shoulda gone harder after getting one of these clients |