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Audi vs bmw reliability?

You can pick up a few year old CPO A6 or 5 series for cheap....
yapping background story property
  10/17/17
I have an old as FUCK A6 from like '03, or '04, have never h...
hot elite stag film
  10/17/17
BMW isn't the paragon of reliability either. Source:my own ...
multi-colored maize people who are hurt round eye
  10/17/17
lol @ striverfags buying overpriced junk
light degenerate twinkling uncleanness
  10/17/17
...
wild tanning salon candlestick maker
  10/17/17
2-3 year old luxury cars aren't actually overpriced
cerise home hunting ground
  10/17/17
This. $28k for a 2 year old A6 with 4 years remaining of war...
yapping background story property
  10/17/17
you will eat that in repair costs after the warraty is gone ...
magical sienna dog poop personal credit line
  10/17/17
stfu you gook
Lascivious Tantric Lettuce
  10/17/17
All cars depreciate. I'll trade it in in 4 years for another...
yapping background story property
  10/17/17
whats teh point of buying then? why not just lease
magical sienna dog poop personal credit line
  10/17/17
Depends on how much you drive and whether you want to deal w...
garnet partner theatre
  10/17/17
bequeath to heirs
wild tanning salon candlestick maker
  10/17/17
Leaving an A6 or 5 series is expensive as fuck. Figure $700/...
yapping background story property
  10/17/17
those #s seem high but ill take your word for it buying a...
magical sienna dog poop personal credit line
  10/17/17
A base 5 series is advertised at $540/month including a $350...
yapping background story property
  10/17/17
except lots of people run those leases through their busines...
Excitant generalized bond quadroon
  10/17/17
Unfortunately, I don't own a business
yapping background story property
  10/17/17
sad!
Excitant generalized bond quadroon
  10/17/17
crrrrr
Iridescent parlor philosopher-king
  10/17/17
i never thought i'd be a lease guy, but the tax savings chan...
Excitant generalized bond quadroon
  10/17/17
...
Underhanded Out-of-control Sanctuary
  10/17/17
How the fuck you gonna haul your boat around with that shitb...
light degenerate twinkling uncleanness
  10/17/17
I own a big BOF SUV for that purpose
yapping background story property
  10/17/17
lol at these yuppie mobiles
wild tanning salon candlestick maker
  10/17/17
theyre both shit, but audi is worse
magical sienna dog poop personal credit line
  10/17/17
just buy a goddamn subaru outback
Splenetic sweet tailpipe point
  10/17/17
I've driven all the current Subarus. God awful NVH.
yapping background story property
  10/17/17
Mercedes and Porsche are both better. With Porsche however,...
garnet partner theatre
  10/17/17
aren't you a prole with some shitty jeep?
Appetizing Rose Karate Turdskin
  10/17/17
Sure. But my Jeep costs more than a bunch of Audis, Mercede...
garnet partner theatre
  10/17/17
good choice IMO
wild tanning salon candlestick maker
  10/17/17
Which choice? The current JGC or the Mercedes AMG?
garnet partner theatre
  10/17/17
latter
wild tanning salon candlestick maker
  10/17/17
It is just an evolution of the former. It will be either a ...
garnet partner theatre
  10/17/17
lol your wife and dog are going to starve with you spending ...
Iridescent parlor philosopher-king
  10/17/17
I'm not doing it so people think I'm cool. I'm going to fre...
garnet partner theatre
  10/17/17
amgs are a prescription for guaranteed pain if you aren't g...
supple up-to-no-good friendly grandma corn cake
  10/17/17
Getting it used so I take advantage of the depreciation.
garnet partner theatre
  10/17/17
I generally am against the "zomg german car maintenance...
Lascivious Tantric Lettuce
  10/17/17
Explain.
garnet partner theatre
  10/17/17
AMG parts, e.g. - brakes and shit cost like 2-3x what normal...
Lascivious Tantric Lettuce
  10/17/17
I checked on ebay and there are plenty of perfectly reasonab...
garnet partner theatre
  10/17/17
It's probably somewhat year/model specific. Maybe get a cons...
fiercely-loyal masturbator faggotry
  10/17/17
never had major issues with BMW's except that the convertibl...
Lascivious Tantric Lettuce
  10/17/17
(poor prole who wants flash of luxury car but cant afford it...
Honey-headed Frozen Stain Juggernaut
  10/17/17
(guy who is about to note that OP should just buy a minivan ...
garnet partner theatre
  10/17/17
(drooling moron)
wild tanning salon candlestick maker
  10/17/17
Every single one of these threads ends up with some guy walt...
garnet partner theatre
  10/17/17
Lexus, actually Though some base or near-base midsize Ge...
Honey-headed Frozen Stain Juggernaut
  10/17/17
Actually, I don't want flash at all. It's just that mid leve...
yapping background story property
  10/17/17
Don't buy a used 5 Series. My boomer parents got one for ...
Underhanded Out-of-control Sanctuary
  10/17/17
$1000/yr is doing better than average
multi-colored maize people who are hurt round eye
  10/17/17
doesn't seem right
wild tanning salon candlestick maker
  10/17/17
Older 5 series like the E60 I believe we're pretty unreliabl...
yapping background story property
  10/17/17
excluding things like oil changes, brakes pads/rotors, tires...
stimulating twinkling sandwich
  10/17/17
CapTTTainFalcon pls respond!
stimulating twinkling sandwich
  10/19/17
Tbf, I do all my own maintenance on my current cars. I.e. Pa...
yapping background story property
  10/17/17
A lot of that stuff is also perfectly fine to do at normal s...
garnet partner theatre
  10/17/17
I do that stuff myself mostly because it forces me to get to...
yapping background story property
  10/17/17
ITT proles who buy "used" cars. ljl at you penny p...
Cracking Overrated Address
  10/17/17
To me, it's the proles who spend waste their money on a $60k...
yapping background story property
  10/17/17
The aftermarket warranties that you can negotiate be include...
mauve spectacular son of senegal
  10/18/17
Chad: big ass 4x4 truck, big dog in back of truck with tongu...
light degenerate twinkling uncleanness
  10/17/17
It really is model specific, each brand has ones with a mino...
canary rambunctious legend
  10/17/17
Apparently the new model 5 series from this past year is a d...
Iridescent parlor philosopher-king
  10/17/17
I drove both the 540i and the E Class. The BMW is much bette...
Excitant generalized bond quadroon
  10/17/17
already planning on getting rid of the m240?
cerise home hunting ground
  10/17/17
its a lot of fun, but uses a lot of gas - and I don't get to...
Iridescent parlor philosopher-king
  10/17/17
fuck it man. If you're not driving it that much then who car...
cerise home hunting ground
  10/17/17
tcq
garnet partner theatre
  10/17/17
TCR. Earl is retarded about cars.
clear lodge
  10/17/17
it's also not very comfortable driving for over an hour or s...
Iridescent parlor philosopher-king
  10/17/17
Don't the n20 engines have major timing chain issues? I know...
yapping background story property
  10/17/17
edit NM
Iridescent parlor philosopher-king
  10/17/17
Might as well get the 540i, no? Not much more expensive.
Excitant generalized bond quadroon
  10/17/17
Pretty sure I told u this shit when u talked about this car ...
magical sienna dog poop personal credit line
  10/17/17
i fit in the car fine. lots of space in the front seat and l...
Iridescent parlor philosopher-king
  10/19/17
So you got a small, super fast car you didn't really need an...
garnet partner theatre
  10/17/17
i.e., the 540i...
Excitant generalized bond quadroon
  10/17/17
Yep.
garnet partner theatre
  10/17/17
gas mileage is much worse, and what is the advantage? a lit...
Iridescent parlor philosopher-king
  10/19/17
You barely drive and make plenty of cash. Who cares about t...
garnet partner theatre
  10/19/17
should I get the 6 cylinder subaru outback too for the other...
Iridescent parlor philosopher-king
  10/19/17
$7k is nbd, especially for you. I've never regretted gettin...
garnet partner theatre
  10/19/17
assume one kid and a dog and we take it biking and skiing/sn...
Iridescent parlor philosopher-king
  10/19/17
Outback seems like a perfectly reasonable choice.
garnet partner theatre
  10/19/17
but no sense in getting the 6 for the outback.
Iridescent parlor philosopher-king
  10/19/17
I always get a big engine. Small engines suck.
garnet partner theatre
  10/19/17
also remember that I am leasing whichever car is more expens...
Iridescent parlor philosopher-king
  10/19/17
Look, for me it wouldn't be but if you don't care then sure,...
garnet partner theatre
  10/19/17
$5300
Excitant generalized bond quadroon
  10/19/17
both are sps
mint trump supporter bawdyhouse
  10/17/17
Other suggestions? CTS (super cheap CPO)? GS350 (considerabl...
yapping background story property
  10/17/17
dont you have like 300k in student loan debt? if that's you...
mint trump supporter bawdyhouse
  10/17/17
90k with dreams of PSLF in 2 years. Bigfed with low COL in f...
yapping background story property
  10/17/17
oh ok I was thinking of someone else. yeah lexus much more ...
mint trump supporter bawdyhouse
  10/17/17
Yeah, I'd get like an F-150 Raptor or something if I were in...
garnet partner theatre
  10/17/17
Looked into the raptor. It's a hell of a truck but new is ex...
yapping background story property
  10/17/17
Maintenence is far less though and reliability will be much ...
garnet partner theatre
  10/17/17
Not so sure on reliability. Not a huge fan of turbo engines ...
yapping background story property
  10/17/17
Everything is turbo these days, but I totally agree with you...
garnet partner theatre
  10/17/17
Turbos are SPS unless on a diesel. None of these new tu...
indecent high-end sex offender coldplay fan
  10/18/17
Does Audi still make a manual paired with their 3.0 SC?
yapping background story property
  10/18/17
The 3.0 is now turbo instead of SC. And bolted to a 8 speed...
multi-colored maize people who are hurt round eye
  10/19/17
TDs break too. I'm fine with the new auto trannies. ...
garnet partner theatre
  10/18/17
My Audis have been reliable
Aromatic Carmine Rehab Electric Furnace
  10/18/17
Good insight. Seems later model audis are fairly reliable. I...
yapping background story property
  10/18/17
Did you consider the 535i when you bought your A6?
yapping background story property
  10/18/17
Two follow up questions
stimulating twinkling sandwich
  10/19/17
I've had three BMWs and never had anything seriously go wron...
henna step-uncle's house
  10/18/17
how many miles did you own each for? I keep my cars for abou...
yapping background story property
  10/18/17
First one about 80k, second one about 60k, third one is new.
henna step-uncle's house
  10/19/17
faGGOT Yuppies die die die
Bonkers Garrison Kitty
  10/19/17
Anyone drive the new CTS? It's a fucking steal to buy a 2015...
yapping background story property
  10/19/17


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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:29 AM
Author: yapping background story property

You can pick up a few year old CPO A6 or 5 series for cheap. I know audis of the past have been unreliable POS but has that improved? Looking at 2015-2016 MY.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462140)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:30 AM
Author: hot elite stag film

I have an old as FUCK A6 from like '03, or '04, have never had any serious issues with it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462149)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:31 AM
Author: multi-colored maize people who are hurt round eye

BMW isn't the paragon of reliability either.

Source:my own bmw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462160)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:34 AM
Author: light degenerate twinkling uncleanness

lol @ striverfags buying overpriced junk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462197)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:35 AM
Author: wild tanning salon candlestick maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462202)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:44 AM
Author: cerise home hunting ground

2-3 year old luxury cars aren't actually overpriced

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462285)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:57 AM
Author: yapping background story property

This. $28k for a 2 year old A6 with 4 years remaining of warranty sounds like a good deal to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462409)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:58 AM
Author: magical sienna dog poop personal credit line

you will eat that in repair costs after the warraty is gone brother, and the car value will plummet even more every year so you wont b eable to get rid ofit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462413)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:59 AM
Author: Lascivious Tantric Lettuce

stfu you gook

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462429)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:59 AM
Author: yapping background story property

All cars depreciate. I'll trade it in in 4 years for another CPO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462431)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:00 PM
Author: magical sienna dog poop personal credit line

whats teh point of buying then? why not just lease

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462437)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:02 PM
Author: garnet partner theatre

Depends on how much you drive and whether you want to deal with the hassles that come with leasing.

I will say that buying used and trading for used tends to work out cheaper than leasing new and trading for new.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462457)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:04 PM
Author: wild tanning salon candlestick maker

bequeath to heirs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462481)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:07 PM
Author: yapping background story property

Leaving an A6 or 5 series is expensive as fuck. Figure $700/month once you factor in taxes and fees. Their advertised leases include huge required down payments. Over 4 years you'd spend over $30k on lease payments and have zero to show for it. After 4 years of ownership of a purchased CPO, you would probably save at least 10k, factoring in the value of the car at trade in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462499)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:08 PM
Author: magical sienna dog poop personal credit line

those #s seem high but ill take your word for it

buying an old Audi seems like a terrible financial decision but w/e floats ur boat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462509)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:11 PM
Author: yapping background story property

A base 5 series is advertised at $540/month including a $3500 down payment and not including any taxes or additional fees. Easily $700/month with zero down and including taxes and fees.

If you're owning an older BMW covered by a pretty decent factor warranty, how much risk is there? You're picking up a basically new car with less than 30k miles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462529)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:20 PM
Author: Excitant generalized bond quadroon

except lots of people run those leases through their businesses resulting in huge tax savings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462584)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:23 PM
Author: yapping background story property

Unfortunately, I don't own a business

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462600)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:25 PM
Author: Excitant generalized bond quadroon

sad!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462615)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:29 PM
Author: Iridescent parlor philosopher-king

crrrrr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462637)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:35 PM
Author: Excitant generalized bond quadroon

i never thought i'd be a lease guy, but the tax savings change the calculus entirely.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462667)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:10 PM
Author: Underhanded Out-of-control Sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462520)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:22 PM
Author: light degenerate twinkling uncleanness

How the fuck you gonna haul your boat around with that shitbox car, striverfag?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462596)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:27 PM
Author: yapping background story property

I own a big BOF SUV for that purpose

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462625)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:35 AM
Author: wild tanning salon candlestick maker

lol at these yuppie mobiles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462203)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:36 AM
Author: magical sienna dog poop personal credit line

theyre both shit, but audi is worse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462209)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:37 AM
Author: Splenetic sweet tailpipe point

just buy a goddamn subaru outback

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462229)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:58 AM
Author: yapping background story property

I've driven all the current Subarus. God awful NVH.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462415)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:40 AM
Author: garnet partner theatre

Mercedes and Porsche are both better. With Porsche however, when stuff goes wrong it costs an arm and a leg.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462260)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:41 AM
Author: Appetizing Rose Karate Turdskin

aren't you a prole with some shitty jeep?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462265)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:58 AM
Author: garnet partner theatre

Sure. But my Jeep costs more than a bunch of Audis, Mercedes, BMWs, etc.

Probably getting a Mercedes AMG next.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462418)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:05 PM
Author: wild tanning salon candlestick maker

good choice IMO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462484)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:06 PM
Author: garnet partner theatre

Which choice? The current JGC or the Mercedes AMG?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462489)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:06 PM
Author: wild tanning salon candlestick maker

latter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462492)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:07 PM
Author: garnet partner theatre

It is just an evolution of the former. It will be either a GLE 63 AMG or a GLC 63 AMG... Either way, it'll be fun.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462504)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:30 PM
Author: Iridescent parlor philosopher-king

lol your wife and dog are going to starve with you spending $100K on a car. Move to LA already if you are going to waste that much on a car.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462641)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:12 PM
Author: garnet partner theatre

I'm not doing it so people think I'm cool. I'm going to freakin' debadge the thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34467664)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 1:17 PM
Author: supple up-to-no-good friendly grandma corn cake

amgs are a prescription for guaranteed pain

if you aren't getting fucked by depreciation, you're getting fucked by repair bills

usually, both

buy a used one, hope it's a good one, and at least you'll minimize the fucking



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462906)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:12 PM
Author: garnet partner theatre

Getting it used so I take advantage of the depreciation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34467668)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:34 PM
Author: Lascivious Tantric Lettuce

I generally am against the "zomg german car maintenance!!1" flame that gets run here, but don't fucking buy an AMG.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462662)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 1:55 PM
Author: garnet partner theatre

Explain.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463205)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:53 PM
Author: Lascivious Tantric Lettuce

AMG parts, e.g. - brakes and shit cost like 2-3x what normal MB parts cost.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463630)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:57 PM
Author: garnet partner theatre

I checked on ebay and there are plenty of perfectly reasonably priced shit on brakes and such. Cheaper than Porsche, for example (one thing that scared me off the Macan Turbo).

Compared to the performance parts I buy for my Jeep it is largely the same stuff anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463663)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:42 AM
Author: fiercely-loyal masturbator faggotry

It's probably somewhat year/model specific. Maybe get a consumer reports subscription where you can actually see reliability by year/model and specific car component.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462275)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:58 AM
Author: Lascivious Tantric Lettuce

never had major issues with BMW's except that the convertible top was sps but that was before they switched to hard tops anyways.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462419)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:01 PM
Author: Honey-headed Frozen Stain Juggernaut

(poor prole who wants flash of luxury car but cant afford it so has to buy cpo and cares about reliability)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462446)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:03 PM
Author: garnet partner theatre

(guy who is about to note that OP should just buy a minivan or some POS cheap car like the one he drives)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462470)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:06 PM
Author: wild tanning salon candlestick maker

(drooling moron)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462491)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:10 PM
Author: garnet partner theatre

Every single one of these threads ends up with some guy waltzing in and declaring that if you can't afford to easily buy a new Ferrari with cash that you're a poor prole who should just buy [whatever piece of shit they're driving].

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462517)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 3:39 PM
Author: Honey-headed Frozen Stain Juggernaut

Lexus, actually

Though some base or near-base midsize German car from a few years ago would still get gaped off the line by a Camry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34464112)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:17 PM
Author: yapping background story property

Actually, I don't want flash at all. It's just that mid level class German cars drive so much better at highway speeds and are so much more comfortable than a comparable Camry or accord.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462563)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:09 PM
Author: Underhanded Out-of-control Sanctuary

Don't buy a used 5 Series.

My boomer parents got one for 30,000, and in the past ten years they've spent over 10,000 on maintenance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462515)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:10 PM
Author: multi-colored maize people who are hurt round eye

$1000/yr is doing better than average

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462522)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 1:24 PM
Author: wild tanning salon candlestick maker

doesn't seem right

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462959)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:32 PM
Author: yapping background story property

Older 5 series like the E60 I believe we're pretty unreliable. The F10 seems more reliable, although that probably depends if you get it in poverty spec with less to go wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462651)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 3:46 PM
Author: stimulating twinkling sandwich

excluding things like oil changes, brakes pads/rotors, tires, basic maintenance etc. what has that 10,000 been spent on?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34464163)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:22 PM
Author: stimulating twinkling sandwich

CapTTTainFalcon pls respond!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479559)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:14 PM
Author: yapping background story property

Tbf, I do all my own maintenance on my current cars. I.e. Pads, rotors, fluid changes, oil, tire rotation, filters, minor repairs like sensors. I say this that if you don't do your own DIY maintenance and minor repairs, I'm not sure it would be wise to own a German car.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462548)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:15 PM
Author: garnet partner theatre

A lot of that stuff is also perfectly fine to do at normal shops. You get eaten alive if you do it at the dealership, so don't do that. Sure, the dealership will tell you that you couldn't possibly get new tires at Walmart but they're fucking liars and tires are tires.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462553)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:21 PM
Author: yapping background story property

I do that stuff myself mostly because it forces me to get to know how the car is put together, I can be certain it's done correctly within the factory service manual specs, and it's just plain enjoyable to work on cars

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462587)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:19 PM
Author: Cracking Overrated Address

ITT proles who buy "used" cars. ljl at you penny pinching soccor moms. Remember, Chad buys new xoxohth...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462576)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:22 PM
Author: yapping background story property

To me, it's the proles who spend waste their money on a $60k+ car when one can be had for half that in nearly the same condition and with plenty of Warranty remaining.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462595)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 6:34 PM
Author: mauve spectacular son of senegal

The aftermarket warranties that you can negotiate be included on CPO cars (since they are 90% margin) are 180 and way better than factory warranties too.

My friend bought a CPO Mercedes that was under a year old with a 5yr unlimited-mileage warranty thrown in. The car has been in the shop so many times before it was even 2 years old that the warranty has paid off big time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34473882)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:36 PM
Author: light degenerate twinkling uncleanness

Chad: big ass 4x4 truck, big dog in back of truck with tongue hanging out, big boat, chicks in bikinis on said boat drinking canned prole juice and rumchatta, camp fires on the beach snuggled up with Stacy while strumming guitar.

Striverfag: student loan debt, no truck, no boat, lives in studio apartment, no yard so no big dog, drives tiny shitbox "foreign" car that was manufactured in South Carolina, drives with "Titan" the Shitzu dog in front seat, no gf but regularly listens to Stacy getting railed next door while trying to get some sleep for shit corporate job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462675)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:42 PM
Author: canary rambunctious legend

It really is model specific, each brand has ones with a minor thing here or there. Generally, nearly every car these days is far more reliable than even 10 years ago. Also, with some models and packages you're buying a car with a ton of power and technology, don't expect that to necessarily be perfect, there are tradeoffs. A 550HP M6 or M5 requires two car batteries, and was designed to deplete them so they could eek out an EPA number (alternator doesn't draw enough to keep them fully charged over time); so there is an extremely expensive battery change bill to expect with those cars as they require 'coding' (((GC))) for each battery. If you don't want that, get a Camry.

As for BMW vs. Audi; if you need AWD, get an Audi with the real Quattro system (not Haldex) and if possible the sport differential. I have an S4 w/ 400whp and no issues at $34k miles; bought it used with 10k and tuned/pully'd from nearly day 1.

If you prefer RWD, BMWs are perfectly fine. I personally like the Audi RS7 and any of BMW's "Grand Touring" 4-door coupes; you can get a 4-door M6 used for ~60k w/ low miles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462714)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 1:02 PM
Author: Iridescent parlor philosopher-king

Apparently the new model 5 series from this past year is a decent improvement and better than the mercedes E class.

My next car will probably be a sad 4 cylinder 5 series. Or an outback.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462815)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 1:05 PM
Author: Excitant generalized bond quadroon

I drove both the 540i and the E Class. The BMW is much better, and this is from someone who generally prefers Mercedes.

The design of the new 5 series is gorgeous too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462832)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 1:06 PM
Author: cerise home hunting ground

already planning on getting rid of the m240?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462838)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 1:59 PM
Author: Iridescent parlor philosopher-king

its a lot of fun, but uses a lot of gas - and I don't get to drive fast very often. I put on so few miles (under 5000 per year) that I should probably buy out the lease and sell it rather than turn it back in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463231)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:00 PM
Author: cerise home hunting ground

fuck it man. If you're not driving it that much then who cares about mpgs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463235)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:01 PM
Author: garnet partner theatre

tcq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463241)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:05 PM
Author: clear lodge

TCR. Earl is retarded about cars.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463278)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:09 PM
Author: Iridescent parlor philosopher-king

it's also not very comfortable driving for over an hour or so.

It's fun and it accelerates well, but I am wondering if I would not have an overall better experience in a much bigger 530i which is cheaper, more fuel efficient, and can go fast enough even with the turbo 4, for 99% of the driving I do with the m240.

Also I share my car with my wife sometimes and she does not drive fast at all, wasting the 240.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463298)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:13 PM
Author: yapping background story property

Don't the n20 engines have major timing chain issues? I know they've moved to the n46 but not sure if the same issue exists.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463328)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:16 PM
Author: Iridescent parlor philosopher-king

edit NM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463354)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:40 PM
Author: Excitant generalized bond quadroon

Might as well get the 540i, no? Not much more expensive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463519)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:59 PM
Author: magical sienna dog poop personal credit line

Pretty sure I told u this shit when u talked about this car

U are a tall dood, lol at being comfy in a ducking 2 series

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463692)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:05 PM
Author: Iridescent parlor philosopher-king

i fit in the car fine. lots of space in the front seat and lots of headroom (more than the mercedes C class).

The problem is that the seats are so close to the ground that you legs stick out straight more than bend. This is uncomfortable for the ass and hips at any height. Same deal for my wife who is pretty short.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479457)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 3:02 PM
Author: garnet partner theatre

So you got a small, super fast car you didn't really need and now are going to sell it, wasting money? WTF?

Get a decent all arounder - something comfortable enough, fast enough, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463723)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 3:03 PM
Author: Excitant generalized bond quadroon

i.e., the 540i...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463733)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 3:04 PM
Author: garnet partner theatre

Yep.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463737)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:04 PM
Author: Iridescent parlor philosopher-king

gas mileage is much worse, and what is the advantage? a little extra push on the freeway onramp if there is no traffic? Both 530i and 540i can go 100 mph with no problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479446)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:20 PM
Author: garnet partner theatre

You barely drive and make plenty of cash. Who cares about the freakin' gas mileage? Eat the cost and have a car with enough power that you won't miss the M series 99% of the time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479537)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:21 PM
Author: Iridescent parlor philosopher-king

should I get the 6 cylinder subaru outback too for the other car?

Isn't the 540 like $7,000 more than the 530. Seems like a lot of money for a little.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479553)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:23 PM
Author: garnet partner theatre

$7k is nbd, especially for you. I've never regretted getting the more powerful engine. Seems better than paying a bunch for a car that's inadequate. Pay the money, maintain the car, keep it for a long time and enjoy.

For the other car that depends on a bunch of variables, including whether you are having kids, how you'll use it, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479565)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:24 PM
Author: Iridescent parlor philosopher-king

assume one kid and a dog and we take it biking and skiing/snowboarding.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479572)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:27 PM
Author: garnet partner theatre

Outback seems like a perfectly reasonable choice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479598)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:28 PM
Author: Iridescent parlor philosopher-king

but no sense in getting the 6 for the outback.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479605)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:29 PM
Author: garnet partner theatre

I always get a big engine. Small engines suck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479616)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:26 PM
Author: Iridescent parlor philosopher-king

also remember that I am leasing whichever car is more expensive. 35% tax write off >>> any other consideration as to savings by buying slightly used or whatever.

If I am only keeping a car 3 years and am a commute-pig, how is a reasonably quick turbo 4 inadequate?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479587)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:32 PM
Author: garnet partner theatre

Look, for me it wouldn't be but if you don't care then sure, get a small engine car. I don't really understand that, but then again, you're not me. I also drive like a madman and just got a new Uniden R3 radar detector. You probably drive 5 over the speed limit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479640)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:25 PM
Author: Excitant generalized bond quadroon

$5300

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479578)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 1:05 PM
Author: mint trump supporter bawdyhouse

both are sps

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462835)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:05 PM
Author: yapping background story property

Other suggestions? CTS (super cheap CPO)? GS350 (considerably more expensive? E350?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463277)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:19 PM
Author: mint trump supporter bawdyhouse

dont you have like 300k in student loan debt? if that's you, a toyota corolla/camry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463365)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:21 PM
Author: yapping background story property

90k with dreams of PSLF in 2 years. Bigfed with low COL in flyover country.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463377)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:24 PM
Author: mint trump supporter bawdyhouse

oh ok I was thinking of someone else. yeah lexus much more reliable and cheaper to maintain than audi or bmw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463400)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:46 PM
Author: garnet partner theatre

Yeah, I'd get like an F-150 Raptor or something if I were in your shoes. That doesn't sound like a smart setup for a German luxury car.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463562)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 3:26 PM
Author: yapping background story property

Looked into the raptor. It's a hell of a truck but new is expensive as fuck (twice what I would pay for a CPO luxury car) and since they don't depreciate at all, makes zero sense buying used.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463975)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 3:27 PM
Author: garnet partner theatre

Maintenence is far less though and reliability will be much better. And you'll get more respect in middle America.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463988)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 3:29 PM
Author: yapping background story property

Not so sure on reliability. Not a huge fan of turbo engines stressed to put out tons of HP. Liked the raptor better when it ran a 6.2l. Plus the Ford warranty is shitty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34464008)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: garnet partner theatre

Everything is turbo these days, but I totally agree with you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34464122)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 1:33 AM
Author: indecent high-end sex offender coldplay fan

Turbos are SPS unless on a diesel.

None of these new turboed cars is going to last for shit without major repair bills. Between direct injection and turbos they are all ticking maintence bombs.

What’s left that is not direct injection and/or turbo? And rule out any CVTs or dual clutch or too many speed autos. Whatever it is, but that. Manual trans and nornally aspirated, normal injection (superchargers are ok though).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34468414)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 11:18 AM
Author: yapping background story property

Does Audi still make a manual paired with their 3.0 SC?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34470053)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: multi-colored maize people who are hurt round eye

The 3.0 is now turbo instead of SC. And bolted to a 8 speed auto.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34476874)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 11:49 AM
Author: garnet partner theatre

TDs break too.

I'm fine with the new auto trannies.

But yeah, there are basically no cars fitting your description anymore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34470367)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 11:37 AM
Author: Aromatic Carmine Rehab Electric Furnace
Subject: My Audis have been reliable

I've owned two new A6 Audis - a 2001 2.7T that I kept for 11 years because I liked it so much, and a 2013 A6 3.0T. I had only very minor problems with the 2.7. The 3.0 has been totally trouble free for 5 years, and is without a doubt the finest car I've ever owned. I also have a 2012 BMW 335i convertible I bought used two years ago. It stays at my winter place and doesn't get used much. It had some initial issues with oil leaks, but other than that it has been fine. Before the 2.7T I had a Mercedes E320 purchased new. It had a lot of problems over the 5 years I owned it, and kind of soured me on the M-B brand. The least reliable cars I've ever owned were a Chrysler Concorde and a VW van. Every high end car is a depreciation disaster. If you do buy an Audi, I recommend Audi Care. It's a prepaid maintenance program (not a warranty) that will save some serious $ over dealer prices. For example, the dealer price on the 55000 mile service was $1200, but the Audi Care price for both 55000 and 65000 was about $750.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34470256)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 4:11 PM
Author: yapping background story property

Good insight. Seems later model audis are fairly reliable. I do all my own maintenance myself in accordance with the factory service manual so I really only care about repairs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34472815)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 5:49 PM
Author: yapping background story property

Did you consider the 535i when you bought your A6?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34473570)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:24 PM
Author: stimulating twinkling sandwich
Subject: Two follow up questions

1) What was the cause of the oil leak issue with the 335i? Worn out gasket?

2) Even $750 for a 55,000 mile service seems steep. What exactly does that entail?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479571)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 5:51 PM
Author: henna step-uncle's house

I've had three BMWs and never had anything seriously go wrong with any of them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34473584)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 5:55 PM
Author: yapping background story property

how many miles did you own each for? I keep my cars for about 100K.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34473607)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:43 AM
Author: henna step-uncle's house

First one about 80k, second one about 60k, third one is new.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34476858)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:45 AM
Author: Bonkers Garrison Kitty

faGGOT Yuppies die die die

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34476871)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:59 PM
Author: yapping background story property

Anyone drive the new CTS? It's a fucking steal to buy a 2015 CPO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479415)