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Ragnus, do you remember me telling you to knock it off?
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Date: October 18th, 2017 6:18 PM Author: stirring trailer park I said what you are doing constitutes DV and "you are going to get dvtro pwnd." Do you remember? And what happened? You got dvtro pwnd.
You were harassing her, bro. And if it wasn't for the DVTRO, you would still be harassing her.
A DVTRO is meant to give people like you a "cooling down period." That is the actual policy behind these.
Based on your recent postings, you clearly have not cooled down even a little bit.
The judge SHOULD grant a permanent DVRO against you for three years. One year may be enough, but if I were a judge, I'd want to play it safe so I'd ding you with a three year.
This is coming from an attorney with an insanely strong defense bias. You are GUILTY. You HARASSED her. You DESERVE a DVRO.
Take the deal you stupid moron retarded tweaker brained fuck. |
Date: October 18th, 2017 6:21 PM Author: opaque trip set listen to him ragnus. this chink makes $76k/yr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34473762) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 6:57 PM Author: Fragrant location electric furnace (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474054) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:03 PM Author: hairraiser vermilion address organic girlfriend I'm not chilmata and I'm Armenian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474097) |
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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:03 PM Author: stirring trailer park rofl We both made $76K one year. So funny people remember that and still confuse us. |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:16 PM Author: appetizing turquoise goal in life cr but chilmata is mexican (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474176) |
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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:04 PM Author: stirring trailer park lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34479002) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 6:22 PM Author: chartreuse flirting whorehouse it appears that ragnus must always move forward without introspection or regret. it's what makes him both 180 and irritating. whether it's lack of impulse control or adhd or terror at the absence of meaning in life it's never going to change. it is either move forward or self destruct. that is the beginning and end of it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34473773) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 6:27 PM Author: at-the-ready theatre he is freud's death drive personified (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34473811) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 6:26 PM Author: Adventurous office newt I remember. And disagree with you that what I did was DV. You don’t know the whole case.
I want this marriage off my record. So I’m not going to drop the annulment in exchange of her dropping DVRO. I have a very good lawyer who will LITIGATE and grant me a JUDICIAL DISMISDAL of this non sense.
100k is nothing. I can always make money, but only one chance to stand up to this bully.
She engaged in significant FRAUD which we are discovery. We are more interested in exposing those fraud on record, than using it as leverage for negotiations. DVRO does not scare me one bit. |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 6:27 PM Author: stirring trailer park You were harassing her. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34473816) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 6:29 PM Author: Adventurous office newt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34473832) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 6:33 PM Author: stirring trailer park I'm going to say this one more time. If her lawyer submitted anything to the judge in writing to support her DV claim (texts or emails) then you are FUCKED. F-U-C-K-E-D.
It doesn't matter if she's a green card whore, what her motivations were, the abortion, none of that matters if there is one single text or email evidencing the extremely low bar of harassment. Don't be a Don Quixote. |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 6:36 PM Author: Adventurous office newt Ok let’s roll the dice and see what’s the outcome. I will not surrender without a fight. This thing will go to trial before I settle.
If a tank is coming for your village, and you know you are going the get blown up. What do you do, just lie down and wait? No you pick up your shovel and fight to the last tooth and nail. |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 6:39 PM Author: stirring trailer park That's a stupid analogy. A better analogy would be the tank is coming for your village, you know you are going to get blown up and the tank is giving you a chance to escape without harm, just pack up your shit and go.
You, however, don't want to leave you shit because it is YOURS. You bought it, you paid for it, and you want to stand up to the tank to send a message to the other villagers who will be faced with tanks.
So the tank mows you and your village down, you are dead, but, hey, you stood up for your rights! |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 6:43 PM Author: Adventurous office newt except it's not a tank, it's mosquito. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34473947) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 6:52 PM Author: Primrose insecure bawdyhouse incel what does the tank represent in this analogy, the getting DVTRO? he doesnt seem that concerned about that. are you just saying its bad cuz he'll have it on his permanent record?
not a lawmo, just trying to understand, never knew anyone in these kind of circumstances. |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 6:56 PM Author: Adventurous office newt she's assuming a permanent dvro is a big threat to me. that i will just lay down and give her the non-clets restraining order, which she will use to get her green card.
she picked the wrong person. i've been to jail 3 times and this is less than a slap on the wrist. |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 6:57 PM Author: stirring trailer park Yes. Another reason not to have it on your record is that a DV is one of the very few things that can be used against you in future DV cases.
So when he does this again (and he will), his future gf's lawyer will just present this current case as evidence of his guilt in an unrelated case.
He has an opportunity to walk away from this, but as another poster pointed out in a different thread, Ragnus isn't over this girl and that is what this is really about. |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:24 PM Author: mustard yarmulke Yes, this is a great analogy:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d8/Tianasquare.jpg |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:40 PM Author: azure splenetic giraffe Your, honor, please see exhibit J, titled "I need my VENDETTA." The all caps are in the original. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474400) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:42 PM Author: stirring trailer park lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474414) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:39 PM Author: azure splenetic giraffe Doesn't make sense to want nothing to do with a marriage and oppose or even face a three year dvpo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474389) |
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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:07 PM Author: violet meetinghouse boltzmann 1) you harassed her, for sure, in a classic DV pattern.
2) your retarded shitlawyer isn't capable of 'granting' you anything. this kind of chest-beating "my lawyer will crush you" horseshit is also typical of histrionic DV control freaks incapable of recognizing their own horrid behavior.
3) third DV tell: obsession with stringing her up in court and "exposing" her because she dared take necessary precautions against your unhinged behavior. the first reaction of every screechy, emotional, deranged DV turd is to start victim-blaming and taking a righteous stance.
if your behavior is objectively described to an impartial observer, they uniformly say you are a fucked up dude and that behavior merited some kind of court order. you're going to self-pwn badly in court. your lawyer will let you do it so long as the check clears and then he'll go home and chickle with his wife about how yet another retarded DV client insisted on belly flopping in court. |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 6:53 PM Author: Primrose insecure bawdyhouse incel one of the most entertaining threads ive read in awhile and i dont even really understand wtf is going on, 180s all around (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474030) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 6:58 PM Author: Fragrant location electric furnace (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474061) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 6:57 PM Author: Bateful crawly knife brunch Ragnus make sure it enters the record that you can bench >185lb (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474056) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 6:59 PM Author: Adventurous office newt wtf it's 195lb on VIDEO EVIDENCE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474071) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 6:59 PM Author: stirring trailer park loling hard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474072) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:00 PM Author: marvelous cerise hell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474079) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:05 PM Author: yapping orange chapel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474112) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 10:46 PM Author: Provocative garrison (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34476070) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 6:58 PM Author: low-t vibrant area depressive Have we reached the Orwellian cuckery point where words are violence? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474060) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 6:59 PM Author: stirring trailer park OFS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474076) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 6:59 PM Author: Adventurous office newt she got "scared" because i "yelled" at her.. i was just talking at regular volume. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474078) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:01 PM Author: low-t vibrant area depressive What's the legal definition of harassment? If you don't like the content of what someone is saying? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474086) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:03 PM Author: Adventurous office newt it's apparently very broad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474095) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:05 PM Author: stirring trailer park In California there are two criteria:
1. Did the Respondent put the Petitioner in reasonable fear of great bodily harm or death?
2. Did the Respondent "disturb the peace" of Petitioner?
Disturbing the peace, if we are talking about yelling, texting, or emailing, typically needs to occur more than once for a judge to grant a DVRO, but practically you only need two examples to sink someone. If it is bad enough, just one. |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:07 PM Author: Adventurous office newt i told her to move her shit out of the apartment.
there was no threat of violence in any of my texts.
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:08 PM Author: stirring trailer park How long was she living with you? How did you say this, exactly? What was your ultimatum? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474123) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:09 PM Author: Adventurous office newt there was no threat. i just said i'm going to stop paying rent.
if you want to make a throwaway email i can send you the actual dvro request. |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:11 PM Author: stirring trailer park I'd like to read it, but I don't want to cross that line. You are going down in flames, bro. No way you aren't. Especially if you testify. You are going to be an absolute disaster on the stand. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474140) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:13 PM Author: Adventurous office newt but a chance to tell my side of the story is worth everything. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474158) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:16 PM Author: stirring trailer park One of the stupidest things I've read. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474179) |
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Date: October 19th, 2017 6:23 AM Author: Jade jap temple (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34477571) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:07 PM Author: Adventurous office newt i have text from her saying "lets hold hands and get a simple divorce"
we even signed a joint summary dissolution. she obviously wasn't afraid to meet me. |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:08 PM Author: stirring trailer park That doesn't mean shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474127) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:16 PM Author: low-t vibrant area depressive you can't send an errant text message calling your wife a bitch? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474178) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:17 PM Author: stirring trailer park Not unless you want a restraining order and want to visit your kids under supervision. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474187) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:17 PM Author: low-t vibrant area depressive you gotta be kidding (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474194) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:20 PM Author: stirring trailer park Nope. It is rare that someone just sends a text with "bitch."
Its usually like, "You fucked with the wrong person, bitch. You better lawyer up because you gonna get what coming to you." |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:21 PM Author: low-t vibrant area depressive That's a threat. You were saying mere name calling was sufficient. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474219) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:24 PM Author: stirring trailer park It is. I gave a bad example. Ok, how about this. I saw a judge once, Judge Camarena, actually (who is Kiki Camerena's son) grant a permanent DV not based on the *content* of the texts, but on the *number* of texts to meet the burden for "disturbing the peace." How many texts? 22 in a month. Not flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474241) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:25 PM Author: Adventurous office newt so it's highly dependent on the judge's discretion? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474251) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:33 PM Author: stirring trailer park OFS. For example, Judge Hernandez in South Bay was one of the worst. He would fish for things.
Going back a few years ago, two firms ago, I was defending one and winning.
All of the allegations were based in Mexico so I argued the judge didn't have jurisdiction to grant it. I moved for directed verdict or some shit while the wife was still on the stand.
The judge, I shit you not, turns to her and goes, "Can you think of any incidents in the U.S. where he made you fear for your life?"
The bitch then completely lied and said he threatened to kill her while she was giving birth to their baby in the hospital.
So then I recall her son from another marriage to the stand and get him to admit he never heard such a threat and that he was in the hospital during that birth.
Judge goes, "Well, maybe the son wasn't in the hospital the entire time with his mother."
I could tell you lots of bullshit stories like that.
Judge Hernandez granted a three year RO against an adult woman for throwing a baseball hat at her 70 year old father and saying, "Watch your back." Judge had to ask the father three times whether he feared his daughter and never said yes. Judge still granted the restraining order.
Another one that popped into my head about Judge Hernandez. He granted a restraining order after probing the pro per defendant and getting him to admit he pulled his wedding ring off his wife's finger. That wasn't even in her pleadings, but he was fishing for a reason to grant her RO.
I was in the audience watching that and when I heard the guy admit he pulled the ring off her finger I whispered to my client, "He's fucked." |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:37 PM Author: Adventurous office newt wow lol.
you know anything about Beth McGowen? |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:40 PM Author: stirring trailer park Nope, sorry. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474396) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:44 PM Author: thriller frozen property That's fucked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474419) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:31 PM Author: low-t vibrant area depressive "disturbing the peace" is an Orwellian phrase that deals with being a PUBLIC nuisance. Why is there the same phraseology with DOMESTIC situations? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474315) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:36 PM Author: stirring trailer park IIRC that came down from the California Supreme Court. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474357) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:06 PM Author: stirring trailer park Ragnus, do you plan to take the stand and testify in your behalf?
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:08 PM Author: Adventurous office newt yeah.
i just want to see how this thing will play out.
can i get a jury trial, or does the judge decide? |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:09 PM Author: stirring trailer park JFC. That's what I thought. Ok, man, good luck lol. Judge decides. No juries in family court. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474131) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:11 PM Author: Adventurous office newt but i will have the chance to take the stand and explain myself? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474139) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:11 PM Author: Adventurous office newt hey if this goes to trial and i won, can i request attorney fees? if she won, can she do the same? she already tried to ask for $5000 lawyer fees but that request was "reserved". (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474144) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:15 PM Author: stirring trailer park Yes, winner in DV gets attorney fees. Not many lawyers know this.
I would never file a motion for attorney fees until after I won. If opposing counsel was a dick, after winning, when they were consoling their client in the hallway I'd go up to them and ask to speak to the attorney and then I'd only step a foot or two away so their client could hear me and I'd go, "I told you that you weren't going to win. So the next thing you are going to get from me is a motion for attorney fees. Take it easy." |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:11 PM Author: Diverse swollen resort main people He made some dumb moves but it's fucking insane that this is how the law works (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474141) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:17 PM Author: low-t vibrant area depressive definition of domestic violence:
sexual assault; . . . . . yelling; |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:19 PM Author: stirring trailer park I used to get into discussions with lawyers all the time about this. The dude who puts his wife in the hospital with stitches gets the same punishment in family court as the guy who called his wife a cunt in a text. Its insanity.
And most judges hand out DVTROs like candy on Halloween. They are just fishing for an excuse to grant it.
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:21 PM Author: Adventurous office newt Chilmata: i learnt a few new things from you in this thread. I will re-evaluate my strategy when I meet with my lawyer this Saturaday. ty. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474216) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:25 PM Author: stirring trailer park right on, brother. Glad to help. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474249) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:22 PM Author: low-t vibrant area depressive chilmata: in general, it is better to default to disappearing texts for men? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474225) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:25 PM Author: stirring trailer park I don't understand the question. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474258) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:29 PM Author: low-t vibrant area depressive less evidence laying around for years (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474294) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:34 PM Author: stirring trailer park Oh, I see. I think it is better to just not send angry texts. My boss had a saying, "If it makes you feel good to send it, don't send it." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474335) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:37 PM Author: low-t vibrant area depressive So marriage is just essentially less freedom -- period? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474368) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:41 PM Author: stirring trailer park Guess so. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474402) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:27 PM Author: Adventurous office newt yeah. ghosting is cr. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474270) |
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Date: October 18th, 2017 7:41 PM Author: low-t vibrant area depressive I missed everything but if there are no kids why don't they just break up if someone felt the need to DVTRO? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3767983&forum_id=2#34474404) |
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Date: October 19th, 2017 6:15 AM Author: crusty chocolate institution immigrant 180 thread.
why do men get married again? |
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Date: October 19th, 2017 10:08 AM Author: aromatic peach hominid 18000000 thread.
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