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I am surprised misogynist XO is so anti divorce

is it because of family courts and custody/alimony or XO is ...
Irradiated Piazza
  10/18/17
sometimes divorce is harder on the man than on the woman.
heady locus scourge upon the earth
  10/19/17
Marriage is 180.
slate bateful tattoo
  10/18/17
did you change schtick recently? you sound different
Irradiated Piazza
  10/18/17
Everything is 180 now.
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  10/18/17
what about eating puppies
Irradiated Piazza
  10/18/17
Sounds 180 to me. They're just a pile of cells like you ...
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  10/18/17
damn son. what about being a korean app slut being fucked...
Irradiated Piazza
  10/18/17
New York University is 180.
slate bateful tattoo
  10/18/17
i'm done here. gl.
Irradiated Piazza
  10/18/17
180 subthread.
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think of the kids!
stirring sadistic temple rigor
  10/18/17
children of divorce don't feel they suddenly have 2 homes. ...
Irradiated Piazza
  10/18/17
yeah thats what i meant. i wasnt being ironic. hehe.
stirring sadistic temple rigor
  10/18/17
what's your schtick
Irradiated Piazza
  10/18/17
being honest and racist. and stupid, but meaning well. i...
stirring sadistic temple rigor
  10/18/17
truth can be hurtful to people.
Irradiated Piazza
  10/18/17
stfu
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  10/18/17
yeah. seems to be the case. its hurtful when others point it...
stirring sadistic temple rigor
  10/18/17
The truth is 180.
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I'm not anti divorce. What's the point of forcing someone to...
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  10/19/17
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yeah, once you have kids, you can't divorce until they are 1...
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  10/18/17
i'd gladly take beatings to stay married.
Irradiated Piazza
  10/18/17
heroic woman right here
glassy site jewess
  10/18/17
Would depend on the beating I guess
Thriller bearded elastic band
  10/19/17
Perhaps I just don't have enough bad relationship experience...
Irradiated Piazza
  10/19/17
I was being facetious. If some guy is like punching you in ...
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  10/19/17
The 18 thing is sort of flame. I get the notion that you wa...
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There are many on Xo who would just like to tear down other ...
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Xoxo is not mysogynist. By any objective standard, we love w...
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  10/19/17
But every woman any xo poaster doesn't like for any reason, ...
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  10/19/17
(shrew)
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  10/19/17
oh I agree, by my definition I must be a shrew
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Shrews are 180.
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  10/19/17
Men are bashed constantly on this website.
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But not just for being a man.
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  10/19/17
men are constantly bashed for not matching up to a masculine...
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because men get fukked in divorce
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Only because usually its the wife who has been the primary c...
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"sacrificed their career" Now that women genera...
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No that's something like being a child uranium miner in some...
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child uranium miners in third world countries are 180.
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because marriage is naturally a patriarchal institution.
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No shit: look at what successful men tend to do, they marry....
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  10/19/17
That's because they create a Venn diagram issue for themselv...
contagious business firm
  10/19/17
CR also successful women skew childless because they actuall...
Irradiated Piazza
  10/19/17
agreed, their "career" is their baby, which is sad...
contagious business firm
  10/19/17
The most successful women, yes, because they have all that e...
Thriller bearded elastic band
  10/19/17
Yea most successful women have children. Most women have chi...
Irradiated Piazza
  10/19/17
The prevalence is lower among the most highly successful wom...
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Who's the most successful chick out there? Sandberg? Nooyi? ...
Irradiated Piazza
  10/19/17
I was thinking specifically of female lawyers - like superio...
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  10/19/17
what a horrid concept of "successful"
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  10/19/17
>> However, not surprisingly, Kin found that the excep...
contagious business firm
  10/19/17
My guess: deep down, most men identify themselves somewhere ...
Frum electric furnace
  10/19/17
Eh, idk. A lot of women who get married and have kids really...
contagious business firm
  10/19/17
The women you refer to are the kind of women who you would b...
Frum electric furnace
  10/19/17
The great majority of women want to have children and unders...
Thriller bearded elastic band
  10/19/17
The great majority of women want to have children, but many ...
Frum electric furnace
  10/19/17
By many do you mostly mean the one in your life.
Irradiated Piazza
  10/19/17
Sadly, I include family members, friends, and yes my Wife in...
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  10/19/17
Read All Joy and No Fun and get back to us. And yes, Gen X ...
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  10/19/17
this is probably a big reason why birthrates are so low
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  10/19/17
You'd have to be pretty oblivious to how the world works if ...
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  10/19/17
Oh, I could not agree with you more.
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  10/19/17
I understand you are going through a tough issue with your s...
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  10/19/17
Fair
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Honestly, my Wife's lack if interest in being the primary ca...
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  10/19/17
yeah, i am very sorry for that :(
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Hey man, I've got an amazing daughter and another on the way...
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I'm not sure why you willingly decided to have another child...
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Reasonable to question the decision to have another kid. Th...
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I think your marriage is one of the instances where I can se...
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You pretty much get it. It's not a good situation, but it w...
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Yup. But here's to hoping.
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Interested in what the signs were when you were dating. Coul...
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Sure. Had a much different persona in public than when deal...
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  10/20/17
If that's the case then you have fair cause for complaint.
Thriller bearded elastic band
  10/19/17
I don't identify with that coke snitch.
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Bc getting divorced bc of some existential bullshit "I'...
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I am still surprised at the hugely negative reaction to the ...
Irradiated Piazza
  10/19/17
If he had no kids it would be totally different. But with...
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  10/19/17
What if it were fratty (well known and constantly complained...
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  10/19/17
I would still be strongly against it. The only time I thi...
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This was the law until recently.
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Divorce is 180.
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Date: October 18th, 2017 10:13 PM
Author: Irradiated Piazza

is it because of family courts and custody/alimony or XO is anti-divorce regardless of that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34475767)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:26 PM
Author: heady locus scourge upon the earth

sometimes divorce is harder on the man than on the woman.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34479144)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 10:14 PM
Author: slate bateful tattoo

Marriage is 180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34475780)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 10:15 PM
Author: Irradiated Piazza

did you change schtick recently? you sound different

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34475785)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 10:16 PM
Author: slate bateful tattoo

Everything is 180 now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34475798)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 10:17 PM
Author: Irradiated Piazza

what about eating puppies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34475808)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 10:18 PM
Author: slate bateful tattoo

Sounds 180 to me.

They're just a pile of cells like you or me! Eat up!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34475817)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 10:18 PM
Author: Irradiated Piazza

damn son.

what about being a korean app slut being fucked by nyuug.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34475826)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 10:19 PM
Author: slate bateful tattoo

New York University is 180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34475838)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 10:20 PM
Author: Irradiated Piazza

i'm done here. gl.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34475842)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 10:17 PM
Author: Exhilarant sticky native

180 subthread.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34475813)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 10:21 PM
Author: brilliant vibrant hairy legs



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Date: October 18th, 2017 10:21 PM
Author: slate bateful tattoo



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Date: October 19th, 2017 9:35 AM
Author: 180 trump supporter potus



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Date: October 18th, 2017 10:15 PM
Author: stirring sadistic temple rigor

think of the kids!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34475787)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 10:16 PM
Author: Irradiated Piazza

children of divorce don't feel they suddenly have 2 homes.

they feel they are homeless.

unless relationship was terrible, divorce is selfish and for the mom and or dad, not for the children.

your future GFs, BFs will innately want to kill and/or fuck your children.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34475795)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 10:17 PM
Author: stirring sadistic temple rigor

yeah thats what i meant. i wasnt being ironic. hehe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34475803)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 10:17 PM
Author: Irradiated Piazza

what's your schtick

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34475806)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 10:18 PM
Author: stirring sadistic temple rigor

being honest and racist. and stupid, but meaning well.

i just want justice and truth. and beauty. and i bemoan all the terror of life sometimes.

thats pretty much my shtick.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34475820)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 10:19 PM
Author: Irradiated Piazza

truth can be hurtful to people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34475834)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 10:21 PM
Author: primrose racy bawdyhouse

stfu

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Date: October 18th, 2017 10:21 PM
Author: stirring sadistic temple rigor

yeah. seems to be the case. its hurtful when others point it at me, too. they say truth shall set you free, but truth can cut like a knife when the cobwebs of the mind have calcified as protection against it and it feels like literal pain.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34475852)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 10:22 PM
Author: slate bateful tattoo

The truth is 180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34475861)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 10:23 PM
Author: Exhilarant sticky native



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:08 AM
Author: Jade geriatric blood rage



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:14 AM
Author: cream brunch



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Date: October 19th, 2017 8:31 AM
Author: arousing hall



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:02 PM
Author: Abusive cerise hell wagecucks



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:04 PM
Author: sooty office



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Date: October 26th, 2017 8:38 AM
Author: Chest-beating Twinkling Uncleanness Volcanic Crater



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Date: October 18th, 2017 10:17 PM
Author: Judgmental Corn Cake

I'm not anti divorce. What's the point of forcing someone to be with you who doesn't want to be with you? Ah but que the protests of "but muh Western Civilization!" Now ask yourself what's the point of Western Civilization if it's just a bunch of people living in desperation. It's all just flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34475809)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 2:08 AM
Author: Orange odious lay



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Date: October 19th, 2017 8:40 AM
Author: Judgmental Corn Cake

Was typing drunk on phone

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34477791)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:46 PM
Author: adventurous ruby parlour



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Date: October 18th, 2017 10:19 PM
Author: trip coiffed theater stage people who are hurt

yeah, once you have kids, you can't divorce until they are 18. if you do, you are a degenerate nigger.

you can beat your wife, but you can't leave her. if you have kids.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34475827)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 10:41 PM
Author: Irradiated Piazza

i'd gladly take beatings to stay married.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34476021)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 10:42 PM
Author: glassy site jewess

heroic woman right here

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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:12 AM
Author: Thriller bearded elastic band

Would depend on the beating I guess

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34476657)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:32 AM
Author: Irradiated Piazza

Perhaps I just don't have enough bad relationship experience but I cannot fathom what kind of ape shit would throw away a marriage with kids unless they feared for their life. That's what it would take for me basically.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34476807)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 9:32 AM
Author: Thriller bearded elastic band

I was being facetious. If some guy is like punching you in the face then obviously you can't stick around and just take that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34477968)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 9:59 AM
Author: maize institution foreskin

The 18 thing is sort of flame. I get the notion that you wait until they're out of the house, but I have a couple close work friends who are going through divorces and their youngests are now at college and it's still brutal and the kids are still losing their shit. I'm aware of other examples where the adult kids are relieved, but I'm also aware of examples where the kids recognize their parents were a horrible match and they're glad their parents separated when they were young so they don't remember the tension and fights (IME usually scenarios that don't involve step moms and step dads). Your adult kids will be histrionic if you basically did a good job hiding from them how unhappy your marriage was, so all that work to put their needs first ends up being for nothing in their eyes.

This is just XO being stupidly doctrinaire about a complex issue, like usual. You fuck your kids up by staying if your relationship with your wife is toxic enough. And even if you stay in good shape and pull chicks, enjoy all the new-found freedom, and you have enough money to enjoy life it's still shitty to have the person who was the center of your life grow to hate you. And it's completely devastating if your adult kids take her side and cut you off (which is what happened to one of my work friends).

The bottom line is that if you get married and have kids you need to work very hard to make the marriage good and keep it that way because all the alternatives from that point forward are way fucking worse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478127)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 5:53 AM
Author: Blue kitty cat public bath



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Date: October 18th, 2017 10:44 PM
Author: cracking prole

There are many on Xo who would just like to tear down other posters but who also hate women, so they war within themselves when a poster is getting divorced as to whether to tear down the poster for getting divorced or to shit all over the woman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34476046)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 11:24 PM
Author: crystalline aromatic famous landscape painting hospital

Xoxo is not mysogynist. By any objective standard, we love women here. We obsess over fempoasters to the point of celebrity. We love rate her threads. Our love of women knows no bounds.

We do hate masculine, ruined megashrews who have given up their femininity for trivial gc bullshit. It is not women we hate. These Shrews have nothing in common with women.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34476357)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:10 AM
Author: Well-lubricated Exciting Field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34476648)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:13 AM
Author: Thriller bearded elastic band

But every woman any xo poaster doesn't like for any reason, no matter how trivial or transient, is immediately labelled a shrew.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34476662)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:26 AM
Author: slate bateful tattoo

(shrew)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34476763)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:28 AM
Author: Thriller bearded elastic band

oh I agree, by my definition I must be a shrew

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34476781)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:35 AM
Author: slate bateful tattoo

Shrews are 180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34476817)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 2:10 AM
Author: Exhilarant sticky native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34477214)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 9:32 AM
Author: Thriller bearded elastic band



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34477971)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:15 PM
Author: Abusive cerise hell wagecucks



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34479072)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:18 AM
Author: Mint slippery travel guidebook rehab

I love this place but it's pretty hard on women.

Men give up lots of things for trivial GC bullshit, too. Do we equally criticize those men?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34476696)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:20 AM
Author: Well-lubricated Exciting Field

This board practically exists for the sake of GC depression-threading.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34476724)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 9:51 AM
Author: awkward roommate plaza

Men are bashed constantly on this website.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478065)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 9:53 AM
Author: Thriller bearded elastic band

But not just for being a man.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478076)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 10:07 AM
Author: awkward roommate plaza

men are constantly bashed for not matching up to a masculine ideal in the same way that women are bashed for not matching up to a feminine ideal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478187)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Disrespectful chocolate bbw

because men get fukked in divorce

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34476680)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:18 AM
Author: Thriller bearded elastic band

Only because usually its the wife who has been the primary caregiver and sacrificed her career for the family.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34476697)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:23 AM
Author: Disrespectful chocolate bbw

it goes deeper than that

https://www.the-american-interest.com/2013/06/06/are-divorce-courts-unfair-to-men/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34476744)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:25 AM
Author: mind-boggling codepig indian lodge

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34476754)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:26 AM
Author: pink mad cow disease ape

oh what a sacrifice! retiring at 33? ooh very tough.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34476760)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 2:11 AM
Author: Orange odious lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34477216)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 8:35 AM
Author: arousing hall

"sacrificed their career"

Now that women generally see having a career as beneficial beyond it being a necessity in order to gain and maintain material wellbeing, can us men finagle that not working and being a house husband constitutes sacrificing for the benefit of wife and family?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34477779)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 10:01 AM
Author: Aqua excitant stage gaming laptop

hardest job in the world!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478141)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 10:03 AM
Author: Thriller bearded elastic band

No that's something like being a child uranium miner in some third world country.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478159)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:03 PM
Author: Abusive cerise hell wagecucks

child uranium miners in third world countries are 180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34479432)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:41 AM
Author: wine school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478862)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:26 AM
Author: Painfully honest legend state

because marriage is naturally a patriarchal institution.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34476761)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 9:21 AM
Author: Frum electric furnace

No shit: look at what successful men tend to do, they marry. Pro athletes, rock stars - they marry. Look at what successful women do - they don't marry, they divorce, or they stay single.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34477929)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 9:29 AM
Author: contagious business firm

That's because they create a Venn diagram issue for themselves.

As they become more successful they often look for a mate who is equally or more successful, in addition to other characteristics they might desire, and that drastically reduces the amount of available men, which starts to make it exceedingly hard for them to find a man who wants them back out of that small pool.

This is compounded by the fact that successful men often don't care much about having a wife who has a successful career, in large part because those men are already successful and the marginal value of more career success in a household is low. I.e., women and men look for different things in a mate.

I mean, if I'm a biglaw partner pulling down $2M per year, am I really gonna look for a workaholic shrew making $500k, $1M or $2M per year, or would I rather have someone hot, who takes care of all the other shit that I don't have the time to address, and who can raise a loving family with me?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34477958)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 9:32 AM
Author: Irradiated Piazza

CR also successful women skew childless because they actually stay in the work force, Childlessness enables success IMO, not successful women choose to be husbandless and childless.

Women with children tend to focus less on work, or bow out entirely.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34477970)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 9:35 AM
Author: contagious business firm

agreed, their "career" is their baby, which is sad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34477982)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 9:37 AM
Author: Thriller bearded elastic band

The most successful women, yes, because they have all that extra time to devote to work instead of babbies.

But you can still be reasonably successful with children, particularly if you've achieved some success before having them and can come to some amenable work arrangement.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34477992)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 9:39 AM
Author: Irradiated Piazza

Yea most successful women have children. Most women have children.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478002)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 9:43 AM
Author: Thriller bearded elastic band

The prevalence is lower among the most highly successful women I know.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478019)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 9:45 AM
Author: Irradiated Piazza

Who's the most successful chick out there? Sandberg? Nooyi? Whitman? Meyer? They're all moms. For politicians Gillibrand Warren Clinton Pelosi all moms. Maybe it's just less common in law firms.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478033)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: Thriller bearded elastic band

I was thinking specifically of female lawyers - like superior court judges, the most successful BIGLAW partners, etc. A lot of them don't have kids.

I imagine its the same in other professional fields at the very apex, e.g for female surgeons.

EDIT: googled:

"However, not surprisingly, Kin found that the exceptional demands of surgery affected women’s careers and family trajectories differently than men’s. Twenty-five percent of female surgeons are single, compared to only 6 percent of male surgeons. Similarly, Kin discovered that 60 percent of female surgeons have children versus 92 percent of male surgeons."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478045)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 9:52 AM
Author: awkward roommate plaza

what a horrid concept of "successful"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478072)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 9:54 AM
Author: contagious business firm

>> However, not surprisingly, Kin found that the exceptional demands of surgery affected women’s careers and family trajectories differently than men’s. <<

Is this right? Or is a lot of the effect that female surgeons also look for/marry successful partners and not house husbands who will pick up slack at home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478082)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 9:36 AM
Author: Frum electric furnace

My guess: deep down, most men identify themselves somewhere between Tony Soprano/ Tim Allen/ Homer Simpson. Most women identify themselves somewhere between Carrie / Belle/ Kim Kardashian. Men, just being themselves, will selfishly take care of their family; women, just being themselves, will selfishly take care of themselves.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34477984)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 9:37 AM
Author: contagious business firm

Eh, idk. A lot of women who get married and have kids really do love their kids and families and strive to take care of them. It's the reason why getting married and especially having kids tends to make women more politically conservative.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34477990)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 9:39 AM
Author: Frum electric furnace

The women you refer to are the kind of women who you would be lucky to find. If you consider that they do this in spite of what they would rather being doing, it makes them all the more 180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478001)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 9:41 AM
Author: Thriller bearded elastic band

The great majority of women want to have children and understand that its going to involve considerable sacrifice on their part.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478011)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 9:43 AM
Author: Frum electric furnace

The great majority of women want to have children, but many of them don't understand that its going to involve considerable sacrifice on their part.

Fixed it for you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478017)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 9:43 AM
Author: Irradiated Piazza

By many do you mostly mean the one in your life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478021)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: Frum electric furnace

Sadly, I include family members, friends, and yes my Wife in this category.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478048)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 10:09 AM
Author: maize institution foreskin

Read All Joy and No Fun and get back to us. And yes, Gen X and Millennials (and Boomers for that matter) are way more selfish and therefore worse and more bitchmade about accepting the trade offs of becoming a parent. So they go out of their way to make up excuses as to why it's SO. MUCH. HARDER. for them than it was for earlier generations. Somehow the billion modern technologies and conveniences that this generation enjoys do not figure prominently in their analysis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478201)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 10:10 AM
Author: contagious business firm

this is probably a big reason why birthrates are so low

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478208)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 9:44 AM
Author: Thriller bearded elastic band

You'd have to be pretty oblivious to how the world works if you think you're just going to effortlessly pop out a couple of kids and they are somehow going to raise themselves while you go back to a SATC lifestyle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478028)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: Frum electric furnace

Oh, I could not agree with you more.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478044)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 9:48 AM
Author: contagious business firm

I understand you are going through a tough issue with your spouse, but a lot of women who have kids really do work hard for those kids.

And I say that as someone who thinks women can be really selfish and narcissistic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478050)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 9:49 AM
Author: Frum electric furnace

Fair

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478053)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 10:02 AM
Author: Frum electric furnace

Honestly, my Wife's lack if interest in being the primary caretaker of our child has been the worst part of my marriage, and I'm saying that as a man who hasn't had sex in over 6 months. It drives me nuts that she won't change diapers, take my child to school in the morning, read to her, get up when she's having a nightmare, bath her (ever) - besides for the fact that it's brutal on me to run a law firm and then have to run home and be both Mon & Dad, it's got to be terrible for my child to not have a loving, attentive mother. It kills me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478157)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 10:05 AM
Author: contagious business firm

yeah, i am very sorry for that :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478173)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 10:07 AM
Author: Frum electric furnace

Hey man, I've got an amazing daughter and another on the way. My blessings outweigh my troubles.

That being said, I have no idea how my marriage is going to survive having two kids. No idea.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478185)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:47 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Godawful Telephone Market

I'm not sure why you willingly decided to have another child with somebody who is a terrible mother. That is unfair to your currrent daughter and unborn child. It screws up children terribly to have a fucked up parent, particularly when it's the mom. It's actually better to have a completely absent/dead parent than a fucked up one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478903)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:53 AM
Author: Frum electric furnace

Reasonable to question the decision to have another kid. The only thing I can tell you is that I didn't want to have another kid until we went to marriage counseling and I did my best to stick to it. However, she wanted that child on her schedule - it was easy for her, we have so little sex that I jumped at the opportunity to get laid, and she got pregnant on try #1.

We never went to marriage counseling. By the way, I fucking hate counseling, but I was serious about going - now, what's the point of trying to push her to go when she doesn't want to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478937)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:11 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Godawful Telephone Market

I think your marriage is one of the instances where I can see divorce actually benefitting the kids. Given that your wife is prone to screaming and outbursts, it creates a very unstable situation in your household. Given that one of the main jobs as a parent is to teach children how to manage their emotions and help them gain the coping skills to deal with things that life inevitably will throw their way, your children's direct role model is somebody who doesn't know how to do that. I'm sure you know all this and I'm sorry you feel stuck. I don't think xoxo should be so black and white about divorce and my own parents are an example of a couple who should've divorced long before I was in my 20s. It would've made my childhood a lot better to not live in a state of screaming and doors slamming.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34479049)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:29 PM
Author: Frum electric furnace

You pretty much get it. It's not a good situation, but it was foreseeable that our marriage would be this way had I just paid attention to the signs when I was dating. I'm going to continue to do the best I can under the circumstances.

This last weekend was awful, just screaming and yelling at any perceived slight. She broke into an anger/panic three separate times over the weekend that ended in tears. The first was because I took my mother fishing for two hours, like I said I was going to do and she agreed was a good idea (the house was messy and it was stressing her out). The second was because I took longer to mow the lawn that what I said it would by about 30 minutes (I never do what I say I'll do), and the last time it was because I was cleaning a different room than what she wanted (I never do what I say). Bear in mind, I'm cleaning, maintaining the house, watching our kid while she spends the majority of the day watching TV and sleeping.

So, I took all this in stride - there's no arguing with someone who is totally out of control of their emotions. It's funny, we never make up, there's no forgiveness or mutual understanding of the problem, she just loses steam, is not longer mad, and then we go on with our lives like it never happened. It almost doesn't matter that she's mad -the smallest things send her into anger/panic, and she snaps out of it fairly quickly (no more than an hour or two), so I just don't engage at all and simply get our daughter and go on a walk when she is super out of control.

To be a good guy, i set up a nice pregnancy massage for Tuesday for her, and told her I did it because she seemed really stressed. That seemed to help a little, she was in a better mood today.

While I can keep my cool during these frequent outbursts, the insane schedule I'm keeping together with dealing with this madness whenever I'm not working is driving me mad. The only thing that helps is booze, and I'm drinking waaaay more than I should - on a daily basis, Wife goes to sleep at 730 every night, daughter is usually down for the count by 830-900, that leaves me 2 or so hours a night for myself, and I find myself just inhaling booze for those few hours.

I'm hoping things will change for the better after the new baby?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34479169)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:47 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Godawful Telephone Market

Yeah because throwing a newborn in the mix always brings people close together as opposed to creating more stress...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34479329)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:54 PM
Author: Frum electric furnace

Yup. But here's to hoping.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34479384)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:37 PM
Author: amber spot

Interested in what the signs were when you were dating. Could provide a service to you xoers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34479688)



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Date: October 20th, 2017 11:56 AM
Author: Frum electric furnace

Sure. Had a much different persona in public than when dealing with her parents. In fact, she is fairly abusive towards her parents, and in time she dropped her act and treats our daughter and me exactly in that manner.

She loved her dog but never took responsibility for caring for it. Her parents would walk the dog and pick up after it.

She stated that she hated doing housework, although when we were dating and engaged she still did housework. Towards the end of the engagement and into the marriage, she was resentful if she had to do even routine housework. She expected to be picked up after and cared for, and I found out towards the end of our engagement that her parents regularly came to her house unannounced to clean her house, mow her lawn, etc.

The biggest sign was that, despite being very hot, there were zero men in her life. There was not one guy who was calling, no one emailing, no one. I asked friends about this, and most of them said about the same thing: guys couldn't put up with her bullshit.

One thing that sticks in my mind was, one night after we had gotten engaged, we were out with a big group, and I was talking to a girl who was a friend/ acquaintance of hers, and the girl says to me something along the lines of: do you know what you're doing, this girl is seriously crazy, you need to know she's out there. Everyone says things like that, but the way she said it stuck with me.

Those are the signs I remember that I regret now ignoring.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34486823)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 10:07 AM
Author: Thriller bearded elastic band

If that's the case then you have fair cause for complaint.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478189)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:52 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone useless brakes trust fund

I don't identify with that coke snitch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34479363)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:31 AM
Author: splenetic clown

Xo “men” are a bunch of rong time misogynists until given a situation that strikes too close to home. Go figure

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34476799)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:34 AM
Author: translucent chapel sex offender

Bc getting divorced bc of some existential bullshit "I'm not happy" or "I'm not in love!" Is total flame ... you aren't going to find a better relationship or happiness anywhere else. We just get bored. It's not worth it to ruin a family chasing something that doesn't exist.

This only applies if you have kids.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34476812)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:35 AM
Author: Irradiated Piazza

I am still surprised at the hugely negative reaction to the leave wife for mistress dude. I bet a well known poaster who frequently airs complaints about his wife on zozo would get a better reaction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34476819)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:36 AM
Author: Thriller bearded elastic band

If he had no kids it would be totally different.

But with two kids under 5 the world changes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34476823)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:37 AM
Author: Irradiated Piazza

What if it were fratty (well known and constantly complained about wife being 200lbs)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34476829)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:40 AM
Author: Thriller bearded elastic band

I would still be strongly against it.

The only time I think its justifiable is where the parents publicly hate each other so much that they are already making the kids lives a living hell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34476847)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 2:14 AM
Author: Orange odious lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34477227)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:40 AM
Author: Well-lubricated Exciting Field

RoundUp's negative reaction is only partly due to his actual proposal. His actual statements ("I don't see this as an issue of good or evil") make the skin crawl as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34476845)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:42 AM
Author: glassy site jewess



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34476852)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 8:33 AM
Author: motley sienna set

Divorce is ttt

Its dysfunctional, destroys families, and has contributed to the moral rot/decay of america

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34477773)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 10:00 AM
Author: mahogany charismatic background story



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478132)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 8:47 AM
Author: buff vigorous haunted graveyard lettuce

There is a time and a place for divorce.

“I fell out of love with my spouse and started having sex with someone else” is not a legit basis when you have kids. That just means you’re selfish and give up easily when the going gets tough.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34477813)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 9:18 AM
Author: motley sienna set

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Divorce should be reserved for cases of severe abuse etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34477913)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 9:19 AM
Author: Frum electric furnace

This was the law until recently.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34477921)



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Date: October 20th, 2017 12:05 PM
Author: mahogany charismatic background story

This change in law is probably the biggest contributor to the decline in morality in our society.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34486867)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 9:19 AM
Author: aphrodisiac zombie-like mood

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34477918)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 9:10 AM
Author: Kink-friendly Brethren Hissy Fit

you're kind of stupid so it makes sense you wouldn't understand stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34477885)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 9:16 AM
Author: Frum electric furnace

Protip: xoxo tends to be male oriented, and divorce tends to favor women greatly. Also, real talk, most men want to be married and have a wife, most women don't know what they want (outside of a vague notion of "more").

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34477902)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 9:33 AM
Author: contagious business firm

Divorce is really horrible for kids.

I echo the thoughts of most other poasters on this issue. It's one thing if a couple has no kids (even though I think the idea of vows are important), but once a married couple has kids, their job is to work together for the good of the family, and yes that includes dealing with their petty bullshit.

Obviously in cases of abuse or whatever I agree that divorce is the better option.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34477975)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 9:39 AM
Author: motley sienna set



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478003)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:14 PM
Author: mahogany charismatic background story

Even without kids it tends to be a horrible idea, but with kids/pets you're also hurting others.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34479062)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:24 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Godawful Telephone Market

I think you overestimate an unhappy couple's ability to remain civil and united in their goal to provide a stable environment for children. That requires a lot of maturity and self discipline, which often one or both spouses don't have, because if they did, they prob wouldn't be having such marital problems in the first place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34479126)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:25 PM
Author: contagious business firm

of course they should divorce if it's really toxic, but you also underestimate how many people create their own fucking problems.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34479134)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:43 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Godawful Telephone Market

I'm not sure what you mean by "create their own problems" but what I'm getting at is that most people lack the maturity/discipline to be good partners in the first place due to their own personality flaws. They don't know how to communicate, they have a wandering eye, they are selfish, they are spendthrifts, etc etc. that causes problems in marriages obviously.

It's a bit unrealistic to say that it's better to stay together for the kids when the people who are stuck in unhappy marriages tend to have at least one partner who is incapable of creating a stable environment for the kids. And it doesn't need to be obvious like abuse. It could be never coming home from work because you just don't want to be around your spouse or kids, it could be your mom locking herself in her room crying for hours because she is overwhelmed, etc. those things traumatized children just as much. I just think a truly unhappy (versus an indifferent one where you basically have a roommate) marriage where the people truly have conflict means a toxic environment by default and it's wishful thinking to think the couple can suck it up and be civil.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34479291)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 9:34 AM
Author: slate bateful tattoo

Divorce is 180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34477977)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 9:54 AM
Author: awkward roommate plaza

xo isn't a hivemind. There are some militant anti-marriage posters and some pro-family posters. Whenever people say something like "but xo is being inconsistent!" it's like, no shit, there are dozens of us.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478087)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 10:01 AM
Author: mahogany charismatic background story

To be fair, XOers are against men divorcing too. Divorce because of selfish bullshit is a horrible idea.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478148)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 10:13 AM
Author: free-loading white principal's office kitty

Not exactly a shocker. Xo is very conservative especially about traditional family values.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478232)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 10:15 AM
Author: awkward roommate plaza

cr. btw best site to find NSA trannies in SF?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478239)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:33 AM
Author: mahogany charismatic background story



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478826)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:35 AM
Author: bistre station

the flip side of this is that xo is anti-marriage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478834)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:53 AM
Author: mahogany charismatic background story

Not contradictory. Marriage should be taken seriously. Either commit to it and stick to it or don't get married. Most relationships these days are shallow and temporary and shouldn't result in marriage. Also, the legal system actively discourages marriage, so you shouldn't do it unless you are 100% sure it is the smart thing to do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478939)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:57 AM
Author: buff vigorous haunted graveyard lettuce



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478964)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 11:58 AM
Author: free-loading white principal's office kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34478975)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:09 PM
Author: contagious business firm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34479032)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:50 PM
Author: motley sienna set

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dont get married unless youre 100% sure you and partner are both suited for it, but once youre married, you should be committed to making it work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34479347)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:01 PM
Author: Burgundy psychic pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34479420)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:58 PM
Author: Burgundy psychic pit

The true definition of manhood is rectitude.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34479412)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 5:58 AM
Author: Blue kitty cat public bath

(xoxo freemason)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34531515)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 5:55 AM
Author: slate bateful tattoo

Lock women in cages! Make them eat out of dog foot bowls! Jerk off on em!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34531507)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 9:07 AM
Author: indigo sick senate

Weird how a bunch of virgin, aspie, monastic cheapwads drowning in student debt could be against something that would take away 50% of their assets and result in them paying a few grand a month to a woman so she can do nothing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768260&forum_id=2#34532196)