Thinking of quitting GC and pursuing PhD Econ
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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:01 AM Author: Domesticated Histrionic Space
Talk me out of it bros
I'd have to go back and retake math/econ classes since I don't remember much. This time, I'd actually have to work hard to get straight As. Then spend the next 5 years after that getting a PhD econ - goal is to work for the Fed or become an Econ prof - CR?
Hopefully, I'd never have to GC again
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768377&forum_id=2#34476603) |
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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:20 AM Author: Domesticated Histrionic Space
yeah, id on't know
i don't like the practice of law
if i were you, maybe i'd just stack cash and start a business
substantively, i liked math/econ much more than law though. i regret going into this profession daily.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768377&forum_id=2#34476722)
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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:12 AM Author: Jet Kitchen
age? current job?
dumb if you'd need to spend time and money to go back and take math classes. if that's the case you're probably not getting into a t15-20. even dumber if you're not just a few years out of college.
and if you're not in a t15 your chances of getting a decent academic gig are not great.
would ultimately be spending 6-8 years + lost income to go back to industry.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768377&forum_id=2#34476654) |
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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:18 AM Author: Domesticated Histrionic Space
lawyer
late 20s to early 30s
i majored in math and econ, but forgot a ton of my classes and also didn't do that great in my econ classes due to laziness (got As in my math classes). i'd have to retake everything and get a 4.0.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768377&forum_id=2#34476706)
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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:23 AM Author: Domesticated Histrionic Space
T 15 undergrad, T 14 law school
I was lazy as hell in undergrad. basically didn't study. I pretty much just half assed everything. Still graduated with like a 3.8 GPA (but not great in econ)
When I did study, I'd get As though
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768377&forum_id=2#34476742) |
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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:26 AM Author: Jet Kitchen
you would not get into a great program
your best shot would be if you were able to show demonstrated interest in research since law school. like RAing for an econ prof during law school or having a law + econ publication since graduating. absent that your application would look more like a guy taking a flier at a profession change (which it would be) rather than a good potential researcher. adcoms don't like that.
as it stands i doubt you'd get top 15-20
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768377&forum_id=2#34476764) |
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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:36 AM Author: Jet Kitchen
nobody gives a shit man, it's way too competitive. only way you get into chymps is if you have close to infallible grades and good research history, and good recs obviously. and if you're not in chymps + berkeley and northwestern (maybe nyu and penn too if we're generous) you really have a poor shot at getting a job as a prof.
can't just gloss over poor past grades at these places. definitely not with just one-off classes at least. a full-time masters might help a little but lol @ doing that when you're already in law, and it would just solidify you in the higher mid-tier rather than get you further.
they *will* see you as a job-switcher and not a potential researcher, and they won't like it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768377&forum_id=2#34476822) |
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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:23 AM Author: Domesticated Histrionic Space
If I get straight As the second time around, I might
Biglaw beats a work ethic into you
In retrospect, undergrad was really fucking easy and if you worked like 1/200th the amount of time you put into biglaw, you'd get a 4.0
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768377&forum_id=2#34476745) |
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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:31 AM Author: Domesticated Histrionic Space
So the fact that I went to a top undergrad and top law school and worked in biglaw means nothing in academia?
I swear at least a quarter of the guys who taught me in undergrad were career changers and they ended up in a top tier program.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768377&forum_id=2#34476803)
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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:53 AM Author: Jet Kitchen
yes
t3 in any field can be "hard" to get into in the sense that if you don't have a near-perfect shit then you'll be a reach at that level
but econ is much more competitive. one of the few academic fields outside of the hard sciences that has good professional prospects if you don't get academia. if you're super smart and "good at philosophy" you might still not want to take the gamble of trying for academia in philosophy by doing a phd. many more people take that gamble in econ.
the culture is very different from that of a humanities/soft social science program. it's not like other departments which are full of people who just "shunned" gc like you're describing. it's full of people who strove really heard specifically for econ and who would be ok with using it as a platform to move into gc work.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3768377&forum_id=2#34476917) |
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