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Date: October 23rd, 2017 12:20 AM Author: primrose juggernaut can you imagine our immigration policies in any other country - CA literally prohibiting police from sharing information about illegals to ICE? Or elite sanctioned racism aka "progressive stacking"/"affirmative action" that is still allowed despite all the brouhaha over discrimination and the anti-discrimination laws. America as a land of liberty, western enlightenment and personal freedom/enterprise is DONE here
there is no solution in the political realm and so Trump is the perfect president for our clown country.He is 10/10 on the most important thing we need right now - red pilling america and exposing the true nature of media/politicians plus the fact that he riles up libs 24/7 is an added bonus. they were gas-lighting us for 8 years during Obama with hands up dont shoot,mattress girl, BLM, UVA jackie. now we are paying it back with interest
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 9:33 AM Author: Adulterous incel school cafeteria Other countries have had policies that gave preferential treatment to certain minorities. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34508202) |
Date: October 23rd, 2017 12:24 AM Author: henna theater sandwich I like how he's made it abundantly clear that leadership is meaningless and whatever happens was going to happen anyway. You could install a retarded ape in office and everything would just keep working.
I remember Krugman predicting doom and gloom after the markets dropped when he won the election. LJL. |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 12:25 AM Author: Confused bawdyhouse stock car Krugman said the market would never recover (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507099) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 12:28 AM Author: rusted laser beams mother And it recovered literally within 24 hours, was hilarious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507112) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 12:45 AM Author: Blue At-the-ready Principal's Office Idiot and not just recover, but set a *record high* the day after the election (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507224) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 2:06 PM Author: primrose juggernaut (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34509799) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 12:26 AM Author: Aromatic territorial step-uncle's house puppy i was hoping he was going to initiate a vast public works program (including a wall) and declare martial law in chicago etc., but i guess making shitlibs mad as fuck is good too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507102) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 12:27 AM Author: Heady chapel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507108) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 12:28 AM Author: Sable marvelous psychic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507114) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 12:31 AM Author: Sinister Turquoise Twinkling Uncleanness Yarmulke its DC that needs martial law, not chicago (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507124) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 2:03 AM Author: Multi-colored maroon indirect expression background story Trump isn't initiating a wall? Who feeds you people this lie? I really want to know. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507435) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 12:26 AM Author: cyan travel guidebook the world's biggest ponzi scheme ever--that is the american economy....and it is 70-80% consumer demand...the establishment is propping up this ponzi economy through immigration, which increases the population and increases consumer demand...they are pulling out all the stops to cram more consumers into america so the fortune 500 CEOs and plutocrat shareholders can keep making millions...they will take any legal measures to keep the immigration pipelines open and lure more foreigners into america...they are sending a message to potential immigrants: you are welcome. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507104) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 12:32 AM Author: Sinister Turquoise Twinkling Uncleanness Yarmulke this explanation doesn't explain why the elite favor muslim immigration over all others. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507130) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 12:37 AM Author: primrose juggernaut they dont prefer it over all others. the way they keep the pipelines open is by declaring that all cultures/people are equal is a fundamental unquestionable truth. now acknowledging the problematic nature of mass muslim immigration will be a crack in that wall. if you can question muslim immigration then we might also start questioning hispanics/africans based on their pros and cons so they dont want yield even an inch
also second american elites are strongly tied to middle eastern regimes through oil companies, think tanks etc and dont want to piss them off |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 12:38 AM Author: Heady chapel Just say Jews, come on now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507166) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 12:48 AM Author: primrose juggernaut they didnt have much political power in 1965 when INA was passed. money in politics was also not a big factor then.
so why blame them when an overwhelmingly white congress/senate and the country voted for INA in 1965. nobody until trump (reagan, nixon, Bushes) has even talked about reducing immigration and reagan even gave amnesty.
you always get the politicians you deserve. i very strongly believe in that. you vote for GHWB, GWB, Lindsey, Flake then only you are to blame |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 12:50 AM Author: Sinister Turquoise Twinkling Uncleanness Yarmulke correct. and look what's happening in europe with mass muslim immigraiton. there are very few jews left in europe and especially in germany which is leading the charge. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507242) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 12:40 AM Author: Sinister Turquoise Twinkling Uncleanness Yarmulke look at the increase in muslim "refugee"s into the US
https://cdn.deseretnews.com/images/article/hires/700487789/700487789.jpg
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/10/05/u-s-admits-record-number-of-muslim-refugees-in-2016/
their percentage of overall immigration is also atrocious |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 12:44 AM Author: Tan Meetinghouse cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507214) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 12:49 AM Author: supple magical stage volcanic crater Well don't the elites everywhere want to "erode" national sovereignty? Open borders is hand in hand with that. That's why everyone and their mom has piled on Trump. Who is basically just an "economic nationalist" but believes in strong nation states with values. This system has worked extremely well for humanity but doesn't suit power brokers in the quest for consolidation and expansion of that power. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507238) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 12:50 AM Author: Buff Place Of Business Tanning Salon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507241) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 12:51 AM Author: Blue At-the-ready Principal's Office Idiot Right on. In feudal times, the elites had mastery of their local area. Today's elites have roving fiefdoms - anywhere they can take their money is their domain. This is behind their anti-borders push. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507244) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 12:53 AM Author: Tan Meetinghouse they don't think that far ahead man, they just want cheap labor. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507251) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 12:57 AM Author: demanding business firm sex offender I also think they're true believers in the cosmopolitan worldview: they see all these great Chinese, Indian immigrants in the elite institutions, and the hardworking hispanics who are their servants, and think, "Why shouldn't they get this opportunity that the lazy TTT proles have wasted?" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507263) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 1:01 AM Author: Tan Meetinghouse yeah that too (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507274) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 1:16 AM Author: primrose juggernaut this is true ONLY for WGWAG (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507323) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 1:19 AM Author: demanding business firm sex offender you really think Zuckerberg is working for "the Jews"? that's insane. dude doesn't give a shit about his ethnicity. he's a "Davos man" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507334) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 1:26 AM Author: Confused bawdyhouse stock car He wants to destroy the culture largely because he is Jewish and it is in his blood. No conspiracy there (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507360) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 1:31 AM Author: demanding business firm sex offender it's funny as a joke but if you really believe it you're kinda dumb. no offense (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507378) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 1:40 AM Author: Confused bawdyhouse stock car You’d have to be blind to not notice this. It’s happened repeatedly all over the world. Jews deserve to be held accountable for their BS just like every other ethnic group. But you are a deceitful kike so no point in trying to reason with you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507393) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 1:54 AM Author: demanding business firm sex offender You are a homosexual and argue like a woman, so I guess we'll have to just avoid each other (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507423) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 2:46 AM Author: Confused bawdyhouse stock car “Date: October 23rd, 2017 1:31 AM Author: Before the Law
it's funny as a joke but if you really believe it you're kinda dumb. no offense
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507378)”
Really high level of argument here |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 3:02 AM Author: demanding business firm sex offender Thanks. I tend to reply to dumb poasters pretty dismissively (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507518) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 3:15 AM Author: Buff Place Of Business Tanning Salon "their BS" = being really good at capitalism and rootlessness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507523) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 3:57 AM Author: primrose juggernaut WGWAG actually
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 4:10 AM Author: demanding business firm sex offender saying Zuckerberg is like the Clarence Thomas of Jewish oligarchs is an interesting reply...I think I'll leave it at that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507600) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 4:32 AM Author: primrose juggernaut not sure why you edited? but anyway WGWAG (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507624) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 4:59 AM Author: demanding business firm sex offender edited because i didn't want to get into a multipara subthread wasteland reply but i appreciate the reasonable reply. i don't really get what you don't like about my NIMBY analogy. so one kind of person is a hypocrite about their personal and family's interests and another is hypocritical about their tribe's interests. it's just different levels of in-group.
anyway, the point isn't that they're exactly the same psychological mechanism but that you can't really infer that the oligarchs aren't true believers in cosmopolitan post nationalism (or in the neighborhood busing analogy, you can't infer that they're not "anti-racist"), jewish or not, it's just that they have these blindspots and are imperfect ambassadors of their ideology as most of us are. the annoying thing is like the unhinged dude above people want to reduce their world view to their hypocrisy which is dumb. Does anyone believe e.g. that McCain doesn't believe every dumb word that he says?
ultimately the simplistic thinking about what motivates elites is misguided because i don't think you can actually properly understand them through these self serving, simplistic explanations of their world view |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 5:06 AM Author: primrose juggernaut i didnt know we are talking only about uber elites. i agree with you 100% then. look at rockefeller descendants donating 100s of millions to Japan Society and China society etc. They only deal with the far right tail when it comes to all outsiders and also have the luxury of caring about "legacy". so yes they are true believers.
I probably misunderstood (classic problem with subthread wasteland) the argument to be about the larger population of liberals |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 5:07 AM Author: cyan travel guidebook it's more complex, yes, but ultimately people find rationalizations that help them make more money....yes, these rationalizations are based on things like principles and morals etc, but it always winds up that the rationalizations just so happen to benefit those at the top....here is the chain of causality: those at the top construct rationalizations that are apparently based on principles and morals...but actually help the elites get richer...
for example, they push immigration on the basis that it helps third worlders...equality etc...of course immigration also props up the ponzi economy and allows those at the top to keep making money....
now, here comes the cause and effect part of it--the elites generate propaganda to help push that rationalization....what sort of propaganda? Well, for one, they fire newspaper editors who write editorials against immigration...so then younger, up and coming editors to be see that and it influences their future behavior...so when they become editors they write pro-immigration editorials--so they won't get fired....
and then young and impressionable white kids read the editorials and they go on to become teachers (or whatever) and they fill the minds of their students with pro-immigration sentiment because that is what a good person does...they know that because they were influenced by pro-immigration propaganda as kids...
so, yes, it is more complex, but the prime mover is greed.
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 4:47 AM Author: Coiffed messiness Let's play the ellipsis game : based on this poaster's use thereof, is he a paranoid schizo or a boomer? I vote boomer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507644) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 4:48 AM Author: cyan travel guidebook I really dig your style with the colon usage there.... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507648) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 4:49 AM Author: Coiffed messiness Thanks... bud : I learned it in community college (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507650) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 12:56 AM Author: primrose juggernaut the reason I made this thread was that i just read this article
http://www.dailycal.org/2017/07/06/uc-berkeley-releases-2017-18-admissions-data/
Remember CA has banned affirmative action in college admissions through state referendum. and even the shitlib 9th circuit upheld that ban. But despite this Berkeley which is extremely selective and highly competitive is around 25% URM (black/hispanic). Considering the quality of students applying to Berkeley, their GPA/SAT scores and how selective it is this is impossible without backdoor AA.
So the libs fought the AA ban during the referendum and lost. then they tried to overturn it through courts and lost. and so they said fuck it and did it anyway through "holistic" application process and got what they wanted
which is why i say that we live in a clown country - the will of the people is constantly trampled. People call CA liberal but they forget that the people of CA LITERALLY banned gay marriage, state benefits for illegals and affirmative action through state referendum. Most american citizens in CA even today are strongly opposed to illegals. But the shitlibs overturned the first two through bullshit judicial decisions and just plain ignored the third and they did all this with the elites (media, cuck GOP, business leaders) looking the other way
So i lol @ any idiot who gets worked up over Trump not passing any legislation. You can pass all the "laws" you want in this clown country. But the real powers who run the show will do what the want
HTFH
EDIT: I misread the stats. corrected it above |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 12:59 AM Author: demanding business firm sex offender berkeley is not 40% URM. It's like 3% black and 10-15% hispanic, and many of the hispanics are whites with spanish last names.
your point is reasonable, and it's ridiculous that they're allowed to break the law |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 1:02 AM Author: Blue At-the-ready Principal's Office Idiot Berkeley recruiting heavily in Madrid and Barcelona, why? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507277) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 1:08 AM Author: primrose juggernaut you are right. the article talked about the whole UC system and berkeley and i got confused. the 40% is for the whole UC system
but my point still stands. without backdoor AA through bullshit "holistic" process Berkeley would be <10% URM if they completely removed race from the admissions process like they are supposed to
Another ridiculous example is that CA governor refused to even appeal the bullshit decision of a single district judge overturning the state referendum banning benefits for illegals. Even SCOTUS overturning the gay marriage ban was TTT but this is much worse than that. So the will of millions of CA residents was overruled by ONE FUCKING JUDGE (Mariana Pfaelzer) and the california govt who is supposed to represent us and fight for our laws back stabbed us. |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 1:12 AM Author: Buff Place Of Business Tanning Salon wtf how is that possible? are riverside and merced that big? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507313) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 2:08 AM Author: Multi-colored maroon indirect expression background story Huge growth in the black population in riverside/SB/inland empire. It's where a lot of LA's established black population moved to after the tidal wave of Mexicans and Central Americans came in. Compton et al are not that black anymore. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507441) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 1:01 AM Author: henna theater sandwich 40%?! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507272) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 9:32 AM Author: Motley Translucent National Factory Reset Button Berkeley has virtually zero black students. The few blacks who do go there are athletes or African imports. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34508198) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 1:07 AM Author: vibrant elite rehab foreskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34507296) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 4:44 AM Author: charcoal useless queen of the night It is sad how much of a cuck Trump is now.
xo Stephen Miller is the only worthwhile guy left in the administration. Can you imagine how badly Trump would have lost if he said "My first act as President will be to give our greatest allies Israel and Saudi Arabia billions of dollars." He would have lost every single state.
If he doesn't shape up quickly he will be blown out in 2020. He made 2016 an existential choice for every white person in America. The emotions he exploited to win will be the same emotions that slit his throat in 2020. |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 4:52 AM Author: primrose juggernaut this assumes that there is a more nationalist, real conservative to vote for during the primaries. because you know that at the end of the day Trump will win if he is the nominee bcos dems will continue with the SJW crusade and no fucking way anybody with a brain will vote for a democrat if they are concerned about immigration
so far he has been doing good domestically. at the end of the day Israel/Saudi/Iran shit is immaterial to americans as long as he doesnt take us to war. What we really care about is immigration (wall prototypes out, DACA requires real concessions from dems and in the mean time illegal immigration is down a lot, ICE is doing its job), trade (serious renegotiation going on regd NAFTA and we will get a better deal), culture war/red pill americans (he pwned NFL and is 180 on this)
I think you are grading him too harshly. he has been a disappointment on shit like taxes, healthcare but at the end of the day thats not what differentiated him or made him look like a savior - it was immigration and trade and he has not cucked out there
I just hope our GOP voters boot cucks out of congress so we can actually pass strong immigration laws (which will only slow down our decline because refer back to my OP) but you cant blame trump there when half of the GOP senators are uber cucks |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 5:16 AM Author: charcoal useless queen of the night This is my optimistic scenario for the medium term.
Perhaps my grade is harsh but he has cucked on a ton of stuff, especially Israel/Middle East foreign policy and administration staffing. Why did he fire Bannon? Why did he fire Flynn? Why does he employ his shitlib daughter and shitlib son in law in his administration?
90th+ percentile scenario is Trump deports the DACA adult criminal aliens. Dream scenario is we see a purge of cucks like Jeff Flake and Paul Ryan from the Republican Party and pass legislation that has a lasting beneficial impact on us.
The median scenario is that he gets re-elected. The Dems will put up some demented person against him. Maybe even Crooked H again. But nothing will happen. Maybe he engages in another war in the Middle East for Israel.
Bottom Line, the future is still stacked against the people who elected Trump. |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 5:30 AM Author: primrose juggernaut the last line is right but reversing that is beyond any one person and arc of history etc etc
i just want to comment on one aspect of your post though - XO is not reflective of the average american voter whether it is democrat or republican or trump voter. You think an average trump voter from OK or WI or PA or NC or ID really gives a shit about middle east or understands that region. Your argument that if they knew about his middle east policies they wouldnt have voted for him is ridiculous. it probably wasnt even among the top 10 reasons why they picked him. Not to mention that Trump was very open about his love for Israel and constantly talked about how he would be the best president for Israel during the campaign and also bashed the iran deal constantly. So its not like middle east policy was a surprise. finally the average trump voter (not talking about XO but in general) is going to be more sympathetic to israel than otherwise
people who are backed into a corner cant afford a multi front war. am not a big fan of our middle east policy but at this point our singular focus should be on immigration and no point in Trump or any nationalistic candidate going against the consensus (terrible as it is) on israel/middle east |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 5:46 AM Author: charcoal useless queen of the night 180 response. I absolutely don't believe that the average Trump voter is intelligent. That's why I said the best case unlikely scenario is that he builds the wall and some cucks get tossed out of congress. 2016 was the lower bound for him. 2020 is set up to be a total landslide for him. The best case scenario is that he rightfully makes the election a matter of life and death for American whites. If he does, he will win in the biggest blowout of all time.
Left wing whites are incredibly close to adopting identity politics. They are teetering. They asked blacks to vote for Bernie and they didn't. That hasn't been forgotten. This country is still 66% white. The remaining left-wing whites are thinking about how it would feel for their children to not look like them. These people are starting to look down the road and they don't seem to want their children to be a minority in their own homeland.
When that happens it will be a landslide and we may see Constitutional Amendments passed.
The only way he wins re-election is if he makes it out to be an existential issue for middle America again. Obviously if Wisconsin understood the reality of how effective the Israeli Wall is, they would be demanding it. |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 9:22 AM Author: cyan travel guidebook excellent points...also, down the road, the genetically-engineered, race-aware virus may play a big role... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34508145) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2017 9:45 PM Author: red senate guy who lives in a first world country here, sup (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3772127&forum_id=2#34513331) |